Posted on 12/01/2012 7:04:44 AM PST by Desperado67
Congressional Republicans seem to be tying themselves up in knots in their negotiations with Barack Obama and the Congressional Democrats regarding ways to avoid the so-called ‘fiscal cliff.’ The fiscal cliff is of course the dramatic drop in economic and job growth that is supposedly going to occur if the country faces a combination of tax rate increases and government spending cuts. Whether anyone believes the fiscal cliff will actually occur is a moot point. What the Republicans should do at this point is give Obama and the Democrats everything they want in any fiscal cliff deal.
That is right – the Republicans should simply lie down and surrender the fight. Why? The reason is very simple - it is a fight that they cannot win.
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How about republicans fight for what is right and good for this country. Start there.
“How about republicans fight for what is right and good for this country. Start there.”
Few Republicans are interested in that.
“How about republicans fight for what is right and good for this country. Start there.”
Few Republicans are interested in that.
Go ahead and fight. U may be the only one.
Why limit it to Republicans. The sad truth is few Americans are interested in that. They are only interested in their entitlements.
Newt says there is no fiscal cliff.
http://www.gingrichproductions.com/2012/11/there-is-no-fiscal-cliff/
No - they should give him NOTHING he wants.
“Your third scenario misses the mark (you are right with the first two). If the GOP gives him the tax he wants it will do nothing to improve the economy in any way. In fact things will slide further.”
No, not off the mark.
The reality is that in America today, it doesn’t really matter to a large part of the voting population whether the economy is improving or not.
If it did, how did Obama persuade a majority of Americans to vote for him, in one of the worst economic environments (of his own making) in American history?
If it did, Obama would have lost. He did not lose. He won.
The “new reality” of American politics (in the new “divided America”) is that the successful promulgation of a theme is more important than reality. Because in the new America, we have a growing share of the population that has no idea of what economic “reality” even -is-. And wouldn’t be able to comprehend it in any case.
Perception has become “the new reality”.
Apply this to my scenario #3, and you’ll see how that will work for the ‘rats in 2014. It may even work BETTER for them than scenarios #1 and #2....
Aside: Who cares about unemployment when you’re gettin’ your free ObamaPhone?
I totally agree.
The GOP has done this to themselves.
By advocating the export of American jobs, the GOP has doomed itself.
Bring back American jobs!
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Because...
1. They successfully painted MR as the candidate of the rich, helped along by MR's off the cuff 47% comment.
2. They successfully painted Ryan as the leader of the House Gop's efforts to protect the rich.
3. They successfully campaigned on the notion that all we have to do is get the rich to pay their "fair share" and all would be hunky-dory.
I say give up the "rich", take that arrow out of their quiver and let the hammer fall anyway. If the GOP stands on this then the same campaign that won 2012 for them will win 2014 for them.
Amen - Post to the top every day. The answer that the GOP avoids.
“It’s the middle class, stupid.” or in today’s terms ‘You f the middle class and they f you.’
Fact is, the Repubs should have one spokesperson out on the campaign trail just like Obama. Follow him from state to state and tell the people: Folks, you voted for the Dem party, Obama and BIG government. Big government costs big money. It will require huge tax increases from the low class, the middle class and the rich to support the Dem agenda.
Now we Repubs believe in smaller government, lower taxes and more jobs for the people. Hopefully in four years you will be ready to join us and vote for us after this Dem party and Obama take all you have.
Today, would we be speaking with an English accent as subjects of the United Kingdom eating fish and chips while sipping tea or driving on the right side of the road (paying a heavy road tax and petrol tariff to do so), governed under a parliamentary system and monarchy with a Prime Minister and a Royal family? Living under an advanced social welfare infrastructure with a publicly funded healthcare system (partially paid for with a 17 1/2% value added tax)? Would our sports activities and national pastimes be soccer, cricket and rugby? Would we be subject to excessive land taxes and and an income tax that approaches 60%?
It looks like we are headed that way in many areas, so did the early patriots merely postpone things for a couple of hundred years? Don't know the answers, just food for thought...
Massachusetts fell to the loyalists early on. The good people left, headed west and left the loyalists behind where they have been and are to this day a blackmark on American society.
Defense is about 17% of the budget, yet it takes 50% of the direct cuts from sequestration.
Why the GOP Stupid Party agreed to this in the first place was simply madness.
We all better pray the rest of the world plays nice, because it will take years for our military to recover from this. Defense is the only department that has take real cuts in Obama's first term.
While the Food Stamp train accelerates to warp speed, the DoD is about to be bludgeoned.
Unfortunately if you look at today's California...way too many of the "give me free crap at any cost" crowd headed that way also!
Did I limit the manner we fight?
My point is, it does not matter; the dems will get a huge tax increase and it will be the pubbies’ fault no matter what they say or how hard they fight.
Our media has entered Total Information Warfare. The Republicans cannot talk to the people or explain anything.
On top of that the Republicans cave constantly on everything and *still* get blamed for everything. Remember Bush’s Fault, where things that could not possibly be his fault got attributed to him? Our information channels are now doing the same thing to the entire GOP.
Nothing will be Dear Leaders fault.
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