Posted on 11/29/2012 7:56:08 PM PST by kathsua
The new standard for teaching science in public schools should prohibit teaching religious beliefs like evolution as if they were the equivalent of scientific theories.
Science should be defined as using experimentation and observation to discover information about physical reality. Explanations of what happened in the ancient past cannot be verified using experimentation and observation.
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Contrary to a popular myth pushed by those who want to make science a substitute for religion, science has yet to produce a new explanation for the development of life or the origin of the universe.
The idea that the universe came out of a black hole (the "Big Bang" theory) became popular in the 20th century, but it is hardly a new explanation. An account attributed to the biblical patriarch Enoch (Noah's great-grandfather) first described an event in which "all of creation" came out of an invisible object with a fiery light inside (i.e., a black hole) thousands of years ago. Many cultures use the word "egg" to describe the object the universe came out of.
The idea of one species changing to another, particularly the idea of humans being related to apes, was around long before Charles Darwin wrote his "Origin of the Species." Darwin was reluctant to say we are a monkey's grandchildren, so he just suggested that we are distant cousins. The ancient Tibetan religion had no such inhibitions and claims that we are descended from monkeys.
Evolutionists ignore the fact that humans use gradual changes to develop complex equipment. Development of biological life through gradual changes implies that an Intelligence developed life.
I think this who creationism “debate” is more about power over people. Much the same way the early religious leaders opposed the printing press because (gasp!) people might actually access and read the bible.
The creationists might as well call the 4H clubs anti-christian becuase they are taught about selective breeding methods. Same for dog breeders, horse farms, nursuries, orchid growers etc...
No, further back when scientists had to come up with their own funds rather than the leading experts, journalists and politicians working in cahoots together to accumulate wealth and power from the immoral washing of each others backs.
Paradigm shifts that lead back to God and absolute truths rather than the false meme of capitalism and rugged individualism being broken and in need of rescuing by communism and group think. Course, the ultimate paradigm shift for all of us occurs when we finally meet our Maker.
Let us not forget too dear Stormer when scientific laws were hierarchically regarded as more weighty and above mere theories.
Now just where did they put that pesky definition of evolution theory - seems to be always evolving but never truly defined - maybe because it’s not a true hard science!
Without government funding evolution should have gone the way of the dodo bird by now.
Where did you ever get that idea? On the contrary, consensus reality is part of the problem.
You’re babbling. Get back to me when you want to discuss science and have anything coherent to say.
Right same way I feel about evolution as science.
Next up?
Geology isn’t science.
Astronomy isn’t science.
Paleontology isn’t science.
Physics isn’t science.
Science isn’t science.
But Creationism and Intelligent design IS science!
Amusing!
Setting up yet another series of strawmen arguments ehh allmendream?
Science is of use in explaining and predicting facts, and models that deal with the past are very useful.
Creationism meanwhile is a dead end that leads nowhere and to nothing - to no further knowledge or discovery - it is useless.
So now the Bible is not the word of God because it's from the ancient past.
This article is gibberish.
If they are "read" intelligently then the data gleaned can be used to justify scientific theories, e.g. the universe is just over 13 billion years old, the earth is about 4 billion years old, species evolved, etc.
It was just a pilot program that eventually led to the creation of the Grand Canyon, a much more popular tourist destination.
You have to be careful with definitions like that, because it purports to make scientific quackery valid too.
To many college professors’ credit, they do not present evolution as the media presents it; they do show it as a work in progress and not definitive. (Not all college professors, though.)
. . . which means I’m right.
Do you know that Darwinism is responsible for the history of life?
Do you know that Darwin’s theory of natural selection of genetic variation is a useful theory that helps to explain and predict descent with modification?
Do you know that this theory helps explain why last years flu shot isn’t going to work as well as this years flu shot?
Do you know that this theory helps to explain differences between human populations?
Do you know that this theory helps to predict the usefulness of data involving different species in application to humans?
Do you know that creationism is useless in terms of further discovery or any useful application?
It is a very simple question. Here is a clue. It is not a trick question. Straight and to the point kind of question. If you believes all of your previous posts on the subject, here is your chance to assert you certitude. Choose -YES or NO. You don't even have to ponder the possible answers. Or....is it maybe?
Okay, it’s possible Dawkins has claimed big “e” evolution has been experimentally confirmed. I don’t follow his career very closely. I do specifically remember him drawing a line between real scientific evolution—i.e. the theory of natural selection—and the sweeping story of evolution—i.e. from primordial ooze to mankind. But I’ve only read a couple of his books, and those may have been written a while ago.
That being said, Dawkins is mainly a popularizer and has an axe to grind for creationists, so he’s not exactly the perfect model for how real working evolutionary biologists and scientists in general think.
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