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Should Christians support the creation of a sovereign Palestinian state?
Joel C. Rosenberg's Blog ^
| 11/28/2012
| Joel C. Rosenberg
Posted on 11/29/2012 9:05:26 AM PST by Former Fetus
Should Christians support the creation of a sovereign Palestinian state? This has long been an important question. But its particularly relevant this week.
On Thursday, the Palestinian leadership will ask the United Nations General Assembly to vote on a resolution that will give them enhanced international legal status, not quite a full sovereign state, but very close. The resolution is expected to pass decisively. France, Russia, China and most nations of the world have indicated they will vote yes on the resolution. Thats right, the world is poised to say yes to a sovereign Palestinian state despite the fact that Palestinians in Gaza just committed more than 3,000 war crimes last week (each rocket was fired from behind innocent Arab civilians, and fired at innocent Jewish civilians, making each rocket fired a double war crime); despite the fact that the Palestinian Authority in the West Bank doesnt have any control over the situation in Gaza; despite the fact that the PA has admantly refused to sit down and engage in face to face peace talks with the Israelis for years; and despite the fact that the PA is nearly bankrupt and unable to pay its workers).
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TOPICS: Politics; Religion
KEYWORDS: gaza; israel; pa; palestinestatehood; palestinians; un
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I will gather all the nations and bring them down to the valley of Jehoshaphat. Then I will enter into judgment with them there on behalf of My people and My inheritance, Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations; and they have divided up My land. (Joel 3:2)
To: Former Fetus
Absolutely NOT!!!!!!!
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posted on
11/29/2012 9:08:52 AM PST
by
Perseverando
(Gun control? It's the OBOTS who are filling up prisons for violent crimes, not the Tea Party.)
To: Former Fetus
I would support it, but in a tiny little microstate in the middle of the current state of Jordan. That’s where they belong, anyway.
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posted on
11/29/2012 9:09:47 AM PST
by
ScottinVA
(I've never been more disgusted with American voters.)
To: Former Fetus
This Christian will never support a pali state.
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posted on
11/29/2012 9:10:29 AM PST
by
pgkdan
(We are witnessing the modern sack of Rome. The barbarians have taken over.)
To: Former Fetus
My crystal ball says that within an hour of the vote being in the affirmative, all of the usual suspects (including china and maybe the Soviets Russians) will recognize the new "country". The new Palestinian state will feel they then have the backing of those other countries to continue their current anti-social behavior. Israel could, at that point, recognize that a state of war exists and commence military operations. Anti-Israel Jewish "peace" groups will then protest in front of the Israeli embassy in D.C.
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posted on
11/29/2012 9:12:20 AM PST
by
Pecos
(Double tap: the only acceptable gun control)
To: Former Fetus
No! But it is very surprising how many so called evangelical churches do support it. I have also known a few lefty Catholics who like to go around wearing black and white kerchief things around their necks to look like Pali’s - enough to make you want to hurl.
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posted on
11/29/2012 9:13:55 AM PST
by
melsec
(Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong....)
To: Perseverando
To: Pecos
There WAS a Palestinian state. Then they invaded Israel and lost. Now there *isn’t* a Palestinian state.
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posted on
11/29/2012 9:19:59 AM PST
by
JCBreckenridge
(They may take our lives... but they'll never take our FREEDOM!)
To: Former Fetus
Israel has offered to do this and the Pallies refused because they want Israel gone.
This would give Israel something legitimate to declare war on I guess
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posted on
11/29/2012 9:20:21 AM PST
by
GeronL
(http://asspos.blogspot.com)
To: Former Fetus
To: Former Fetus
There is no such thing as a Palestinian. It’s a made up word to describe people from surrounding countries living in Israel’s land.
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posted on
11/29/2012 9:28:41 AM PST
by
SkyDancer
(Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church shows up at your funeral.)
To: Former Fetus
Back to Jordan, where they belong.
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posted on
11/29/2012 9:30:06 AM PST
by
onyx
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To: Former Fetus
It will only be a “bump in road” on the way to fulfillment of prophecy...
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posted on
11/29/2012 9:31:27 AM PST
by
Errant
To: Former Fetus
The Palestinians and the entirety of the Arab world kinda need to demonstrate that they actually want a Palestinian state, before asking anybody else whether they’d like a Palestinian state.
In any event, there already is a Palestinian state. It’s called Jordan.
Or for that matter, Israel itself is a Palestinian state.
As mentioned above, if the recently invented political creation of people called Palestinians deserve their own state, their friends in Syria or Jordan or Egypt or Norway or France or Upper Manhattan can carve out a few square miles and give it to them.
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posted on
11/29/2012 9:38:27 AM PST
by
mbarker12474
(If thine enemy offend thee, give his childe a drum.)
To: Former Fetus
I know that it doesn’t seem like a popular idea today, but many—most—people are not premillennial in their eschatological views. Many, including myself, believe that the Old Testament prophecies with regard to the coming kingdom had reference to the New Testament church, not to a political Jewish state. Therefore, the fate of the modern nation of Israel is not viewed as quite as relevant to Biblical prophecy as most would espouse.
Having said that, I still support Israel. I don’t support them because of any belief that the modern state of Israel is the primary fulfillment of Biblical prophecy. I support them because they are the good guys in the region. I am open to working with the Palestinians, but they have to start developing some track record of good faith and behavior before any significant progress can be expected.
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posted on
11/29/2012 9:43:01 AM PST
by
Engraved-on-His-hands
(Conservative 2016!! The Dole, H.W. Bush, McCain, Romney experiment has failed.)
To: Former Fetus
Nope!
And someday I’d like to hear Rome’s reasoning.
I’ve heard them mouth support, but never a REASON!
I have the impression they think they’re supporting Israeli Christians.
The truth is the Pali’s use them as shields, and oppress them, as well.
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posted on
11/29/2012 9:43:57 AM PST
by
G Larry
(Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
To: mbarker12474
Palestine was a word the Roman Emperor Hadrian made up in 100 AD to infuriate the Jews.
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posted on
11/29/2012 9:44:23 AM PST
by
massgopguy
(I owe everything to George Bailey)
To: Former Fetus
I think there is a coming Palestinian state. There would be no other reason, except one, for the Israelis to sign a peace treaty that guarantees their borders and their country, with the second beast of Revelation 13. The Israelis have, they would think, complete control of their current borders.
The other reason would be if the Israelis were to be offered the lands in the Abrahamic Covenant of Genesis 15, by the beast, the Antichrist. In that Covenant, God cedes lands to Israel that much larger than the current state of Israel--from the Nile to the Euphrates.
According to the prophetic Scriptures, we all may see the first , and it will be controlled by human beings under the influence and order of the second beast. God, not the beast even if the latter were to sign an order, will control the second.
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posted on
11/29/2012 9:46:26 AM PST
by
righttackle44
(Take scalps. Leave the bodies as a warning.)
To: pgkdan
“This Christian will never support a pali state.”
Look at how many Christians voted for Romney who is a Leftist (an admitted Progressive) and desires to be a god even though Christians supposedly say there is only one God!
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posted on
11/29/2012 9:56:20 AM PST
by
Jack Hydrazine
(It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
To: Jack Hydrazine
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posted on
11/29/2012 9:58:24 AM PST
by
pgkdan
(We are witnessing the modern sack of Rome. The barbarians have taken over.)
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