Posted on 10/13/2012 5:50:55 PM PDT by American Dream 246
True story at a Ford dealership
Tom Selkis' (Latham Ford) True story recently at the dealership.....
"I'll try to make this as short and to the point as I can. One of my salesmen here had a woman in his office yesterday wanting to lease a brand new Focus.
As he was reviewing her credit app with her he noticed she was on social security disability. He said to her you don't look like you're disabled. She said "well I'm really not, I could work if I wanted to but I make more now then I did when I was working and got hurt" (non-disabling injury).
She said the gov't sends her $1500.00 a month in 1 check; she gets $700.00 a month on an EBTcard (food stamps), and $800.00 a month for rent. Oh yeah and 250 mins free on her phone. That is just south of $3500.00 a month.When she was working she was taking home about $330.00 per week. Do the math and then ask yourself: "why the hell should she go back to work?"
If you multiply that by millions of people you start to realize the scope of the problem we face as a country.
Once the socialists have 51% of the population in that same scenario we are finished........ *and we are real, real close*. The question is: when do we cross that threshold if we haven't already?
She didn't lease the Focus here because the dealer down the road beat our deal by $10.00 month. *Glad to know she is so frugal with her hard earned money!*
And that is why they do not call you to test these people.
They will call a doctor who does not specialize in the field. My wife is trying to get disability for fibro, neropathy, severe learning disability, type 1 diabetes and a few other issues.
They sent her to a EMT for evaluation.
Thanks! :)
Not all that tough... Working emails on my blackberry. Won’t go bacl to “real” work (sitting at a computer) ‘till Tuesday
Typo. ENT.
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I’m afraid you are right...once on SSDI you can get all the goooodies.
I’m retired and had to pay over $1000 in taxes to the IRS, yet someone I know has 6 kids and diden’t pay squat in taxes and yet gets a check somewhere in the neighborhood of $6000 back from the government?
Times are changing.
country has to know., lastchance wrote:
The email is BS. If she is getting that much in SSDI she was making much more than $330.00 per week. Perhaps she had a high paying job at one time but the email does not indicate that.
I agree.There are too many myths about those on “relief” $330 X 4= $1320.00 monthly X 12 =$15,840.00 yearly. Under todays regs she would still qualify for food stanmps if she was employed and making that $330 weekly..
But that $700 allowance on the EBT card is for a family of 4 and most states restricts the type of purchases to food. 4 years ago a package of corn muffin mix was .25 cents. Today it’s priced at many stores for a buck, likewise all of your can goods generic mushroom soup for example is a buck. As far as steak goes that $700 bucks won’t go very far at todays prices which is around $8-9 bucks a pound if that’s all you eat.
WHAT EVERYONE IS FORGETTING IS THOSE PRICES ALONG WITH EVERYTHING ELSE HAVE BEEN DRIVEN UP BY THIS ADMINISTRATIONS ENERGY POLICIES
Housing allowances vary for the region your living in and once again at near 16 G’s a year she probably would qualify for assistance in that area including energy bills.
That brings US to the $379.00 we are giving her weekly but its not based on that previous employment. It’s based on disability. Now is she a disabled single mother of 4 or is she gamiing the system ?
False. Both Food Stamps and Medicaid are income related. For that matter so is SSI which is not disability.
So does ANYBODY on SSDI get enough to NOT be on food stamps and medicaid?
I am most certainly *not* judging everyone on disability by her. Just seems to me, that if my income was $3500 month total, even living by myself, I’d drive an old beater, rather than leasing a car.
I hope things turn out well for you and your wife, I was just surprised that someone with limited income spends such a large fraction of it on a car.
I knew someone who sued to get on SSDI. The incentive was that she got a lump sum going back to the date of the injury on top of the monthly stipend. It was right after she got herself a diagnosis through a totally different route for adult ADD, which likely played into the disabled label. This is a well-educated person whose former employment was as a *diversity officer*. She is also an out lesbian.
The physical injury had resulted in a boutonniere deformity on one pinky finger and was the only physical problem. The entire process took her a year or so and the back payment was for 4-5 years.
This goes beyond the Obama years. These disability scams go way back in Pennsylvania and many other states. It's a way of life for many, many people at great expense to those of us who work and pay taxes. I would love to know the percentage of people on disability who are actually, truly disabled. Not very many I suspect, and certainly that is worse now as due to some strange "coincidence" disability collection has gone way up now that the economy has gotten worse.
ENT could make sense if the learning disability was related to that. I am on disability ofically for General Anxiety Disorder. I do not have textbook anxiety disorderas such. But in 1994 the Vestibular Disorders and Sensory Disorders were not yet being connected to causing General Anxiety Disorder Symptoms in some patients except by a few researchers. In other words I have Inner Ear damage and more damage related between the Inner Ear and the sensory processing portion of the brain. That means also learning disabilities. This in turn creates a secondary issue of anxiety.
It would either take a good ENT Doc or an audiologist to catch it. BTW many who have this also have FIBRO as well. It's not one specific disorder but several which compound each other. The weakness associated with FIBRO can just as easilly be triggered by Vestibular issues. I don't have FIBRO but some days my energy level is zero as is my concentration. It also seems to make the patiet more prone to being affected by barometric changes as well.
Neither myself nor my wife get Food Stamps. Our total disability checks combined is $1500 month. We both are on Medicaid/Medicare yes because our income is low. We do not qualify for Food Stamps because our income is too high. Now Medicaid was actually origionally for the Disabled worker and his/her minor children who met income guidelines as well as orphaned children of the wage earner.
My cousin who doctors tell him his next heart attack or the one after will take him is on disability. His three prior by-passes was it they can't help him no more just make him comfortable. On good days he deer hunts though.
He's out lived the prognoses given so far. It took him two years and a lawyer to get his first check and that was about 2 years ago. He is single and draws $1600 a month disability. He is neither eligable for Medicaid nor Food Stamps and pays the Medicare premium too boot.
Yea quite a few. Sorry I misread your question slightly. My sister draws I think roughly $2400 a month in disability. She was not Medicaid nor FS eligible for two reasons. Her husband left her substantial life insurance that meant no Medicaid and meant she went to private insurance. She is on Medicare now due to the automatic kick in after two years disability. The money she got in life insurance will last her almost 5 years at the rate it is going now.
Dementia in her case requires assisted living in a secured portion of the facility so she can't walk off. That alone approaches $6000 a month. She gets high disability payment because her husband made good money up till the last few years he lived when layoffs hit. That was also at the time her strokes happened so it wiped out their life savings. Her husband had just gotten back on his feet money wise for the most part when he died. He was two years from retirement at 65. Before his death they had little savings though.
I didn't mean it to sound like that. Really it was more toward others thinking Disability is some sort of Jackpot. It's not for most persons. I do have a second vehicle I inherited last year when my dad passed. I drive is old pick up to try and keep miles off the van. It's a 1995.
There is a lot missing on the information this article is based on. Like how many kids she has. It matters very significantly as to the amount of extra help she would get. Also I'm betting she is drawing off her husbands S.S. in a formula that would take his SS into account. Different age groups have different rules in that respect.
Wanting a Focus though sounds like small family and the numbers concerning the help she's getting or was reporting for the loan don't add up IMO unless perhaps she is also a LEGAL foster parent to say a grandchild in state custody. If that's the case then Yea she will get that much help but it doesn't come from SS.
This appears to be made up out of whole cloth. The average monthly food stamp benefit for a single person is less than $150. And where does she supposedly get $800 a month for rent? They don’t mention the source. I do not know of any program like that. That is not how Section 8 works. The truth of our welfare state and those who abuse it is bad enough — it is horrible, rife with fraud, encourages sloth and in all but four or five states, families with illegal aliens get a bigger a food stamp benefit than families of the same size made up of U.S. citizens. People don’t have to tell lies about it. The only part of this that rings true is the phone thing, which we are all paying for when we pay the Universal Service Tax on our own phone bills.
I get nerve blocks every two - four months, I don't(can't) wear shoes or socks. I wear open-toed sandals or slippers year round. I live in North central Indiana (it gets cold here) & wear Capri pants 90% of the time because I can't tolerate things touching my feet or lower legs. In addition to the nerve blocks I take controlled substance pain meds, muscle relaxers, anti-inflammatories, & anxiety meds every day. But to see me you would not guess how much pain I have. No one sees the insomnia I suffer from because of my injury.
I am disability retired, and receive SSDI which is subtracted from the amt of retirement pay I get. My husband & I live frugally because of health insurance premiums & costs beyond our health insurance. I couldn't afford to lease a new car. Wouldn't if I could.
I have paid into Social Security since I was 16. Which was nearly 45 yrs ago. You are right disabilities are not always visible. Not everyone is getting a free ride. And this is not what I imagined my retirement yrs to be.
I'm grateful to God that I survived the accident, He has blessed me even through these trials. I am able to be with my husband & spend time with my G’children .
There are enough true instances of fraud that I don’t think people need to draw up some mythical person who is drawing $$$$ on SSDI plus SNAP plus medical assistance to make the point that reform of these programs is needed.
When we were first married my husband insisted our cars by either Dodge Darts, Plymouth Valiants or Dusters. For the very reason you give in your post. Our Duster was indestructible and lasted so long I became sick of it. When the timing chain (?) broke and he said he could fix it I vowed to let the car go into the river if he did.
However, I must state that there are MANY who are refused disability payments who truly deserve it.
I am one of those many who was initially rejected and then went thru 3 reapplications and then to the Administrative law judge before finally being granted the disability.
Not only was I rejected back in 1992 and filed a couple of appeals before realizing that I simply wasn't going to be approved. I reapplied again in December 2000 and it took me FIVE YEARS before I was finally approved by an Administrative Law Judge.
I had been suffering very much with back and knee injuries along with severe Cardiac arrhythmia's I incurred during my Army service. I had to have THREE major operations on my left knee which included having half of the Meniscus removed.
For my back, I had three CAT scans, one Myelogram which included a spinal tap to remove fluid from the spinal column follower by injection of a ‘contrast medium’ to highlight the open spaces in the spine. I had received three rounds of cortisone injected directly into the spine along with being on narcotic pain relievers and muscle relaxants. I was finally able to talk the hospital into giving me an MRI which finally showed where the problem was located.
During the mid 80’s and the 90’s I was hospitalized with severe chest pain and even diagnosed with heart attacks.
Xrays taken during stress testing clearly show an unnatural contraction pattern in the heart which indicated damage from the heart attacks.
During 1987 I was diagnosed with Congestive Heart Failure on top of the diagnosed heart attacks.
During my working career, I regularly worked double shifts on Fridays and on 7 consecutive weeks I had to work triple shifts on Fridays just to keep up with the workload.
For most of 1991 and 1992 I was on full disability from the company I worked for. Early in 1992 I applied for both Social security disability and VA compensation for my disabilities and the pain I was in.
I was originally turned down by Social Security because I worked as a computer systems engineer, Systems specialist, and programmer and my injuries weren't considered severe enough to prevent me from working that job.
Social Security never considered that the positions I was working were regularly rated as one of the three most stressful jobs in America.
The VA rejected my claims for compensation for the knee and back even though they are clearly indicated in my service health care. They claimed that I was treated and the problems went away even though my service record shows at least four times I had to be treated during my three year enlistment for the back problems alone.
The VA gave me a service connected disability for the heart problems but they also rated it at zero percent due to me working a ‘desk job’ totally disregarding the actual job I worked.
During my appointment with the Administrative law Judge, he was very polite and considerate of my Army service which he thanked me for. By the time the meeting ended, both he and I were in tears and I knew that he realized the severity of my problems.
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