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Kan. GOP Sec. of State Moving on Obama Birther Nov. Ballot Challenge
Afro ^ | September 14, 2012 | Staff

Posted on 09/14/2012 6:03:33 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Less than two months before Election Day, a group of Kansas Republicans, led by a voter ID law advocate, is moving on a withdrawn challenge which may result in President Obama being removed from the ballot.

Secretary of State Kris Kobach, who has embraced forcing voters to produce ID at the polls, said Sept. 13 that he will preside over a Kansas Board of Objections Sept. 17 meeting where a Manhattan, Kans. veterinary professor Joe Montgomery, questioned Obama’s birthplace and the citizenship of his father.

Kobach said that the board is obligated to do a thorough review of the questions raised by Montgomery about Obama’s birth certificate and not make “a snap decision."

However, Montgomery on Sept 14 withdrew his objections, stating that the Kansas roots of Obama’s mother and grandparents, apparently in his opinion, satisfies the U.S. Constitution’s “natural-born citizen” requirement for the presidency,.

The president's mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, and maternal grandparents, Stanley and Madelyn Dunham, were Kansas natives.

The complaint withdrawal came after Kobach made requests to officials in Hawaii, Arizona and Mississippi for copies of the president’s birth records. The birth certificate controversy has been settled in those states and Obama is on those states’ ballots.

In spite of the withdrawal, Kobach said he nevertheless doesn’t believe the matter is dead. "I don't think it's a frivolous objection,” according to Kobach, an unofficial advisor to GOP presidential challenger Mitt Romney’s campaign. "I do think the factual record could be supplemented."

The objections board includes Attorney General Derek Schmidt and Lt. Gov. Jeff Colyer, both Republicans. Current polls indicate that in Kansas, Romney is the current favored candidate at this point in the presidential race.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: arizona; birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; hawaii; kansas; mississippi; naturalborncitizen; obama
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To: butterdezillion
I can't stand Obama.

However, this Birther stuff, the idea that BOTH of his parents had to be citizens, at Obama’s birth, is STUPID!

Nobody with any authority agrees with that nonsense.

No, I did not contact the goober that brought this up.

61 posted on 09/14/2012 8:05:59 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Red Steel
You have proved that you do not know what you are talking about, with the last post.

The original Constitution uses the phrase.

62 posted on 09/14/2012 8:07:34 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58

If Ann gave birth to Obama in Canada, as I suspect, she was not a resident 5 years past the age of 14 as the law at that time required for her to pass citizenship to her child.


63 posted on 09/14/2012 8:08:22 PM PDT by Jude in WV
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To: Kansas58
However, this Birther stuff, the idea that BOTH of his parents had to be citizens, at Obama’s birth, is STUPID!

You must be looking at yourself in the mirror.

No, I did not contact the goober that brought this up.

I'm a goober? LoL. You're a light weight who has no grasp of the facts. And dummy, I didn't contact you either. Unsolicited.

64 posted on 09/14/2012 8:08:40 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Jude in WV

Yes, I agree with you, if your facts are indeed accepted.


65 posted on 09/14/2012 8:09:13 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58
If you have time and opportunity I would greatly appreciate any detailed response you might give to my 3 questions above. Thanks in advance if you should happen to do so.
66 posted on 09/14/2012 8:09:54 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (oboy)
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To: Kansas58
You have proved that you do not know what you are talking about, with the last post.

We all can see you don't. It is self evident.

67 posted on 09/14/2012 8:11:21 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel
Look, if you are not willing to look at the army of evidence against you, you are leading an army of fools.

Yes, Obama has the law on his side in this case, if Obama was born on US soil.

Yes, Obama supporters have done a very good job of finding the legal cases and opinions that support their cause.

You have no answer to their arguments, none at all.

Which makes you rather arrogant for presuming other conservatives should follow your lead.

68 posted on 09/14/2012 8:12:40 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58
The original Constitution uses the phrase.

You mean natural born? I would have never guessed ...wow, you are smart! /sarc.

69 posted on 09/14/2012 8:13:58 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Red Steel

Huh?

You have had your ass handed to you by every legal authority that exists, in this country.

Yet? Like some sick Monty Python skit, you still try to challenge me, as your legs and arms have been chopped off and you have no weapons or limbs with which to fight.

You have lost, on all counts.

Prove that Obama was not born on US soil and you have a case.

Otherwise, you have lost.


70 posted on 09/14/2012 8:15:43 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Red Steel

71 posted on 09/14/2012 8:16:26 PM PDT by CommieCutter
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To: Red Steel

James Madison, Father of the Constitution, even asked for Congress to pass more laws on the subject of citizenship, both Natural Born and Naturalized.

If Congress passes a law as to Citizenship at Birth, anyone who meets those requirements is, by law, a Natural Born Citizen.

You are the “light weight” -— if your argument had ANY merit you would have a victory under your belt, somewhere, instead of abject humiliation and defeat.

You have lost.


72 posted on 09/14/2012 8:18:33 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

But if he’s removed from the ballot,the 0bamabots will just write him in,right?


73 posted on 09/14/2012 8:20:09 PM PDT by gimme1ibertee (If you want to kick a tiger in the ass, you better have a plan for dealing with his teeth.)
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To: Kansas58
You have no answer to their arguments, none at all.

None? I take that back that you are "smart." You're still the simpleton. We've debunk more OBot junk to fill the solar system up to the Oort cloud 10 times over. LoL.

Which makes you rather arrogant for presuming other conservatives should follow your lead.

It's you who ramrod and ham fist dingbat posts after dingbat posts when you see someone post about Obama being not a natural born citizen. You've been doing that for some time now. I've just taken the opportunity to do the same back at you will logic and facts.

74 posted on 09/14/2012 8:21:22 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Fester Chugabrew

I was told by a young woman who lived near the border in Texas that Mexicans and Americans were allowed to freely cross the border to visit and shop in Mexico and the US.

She said that when Mexican women went into labor, they would cross to “shop”. They would go to a US hospital to give birth so that their child could come back to the US for an education when he was older because he would be a US citizen.

This is not what the 14th amendment intended. This child’s parents were never “residents” of the US, only visiting and had not subjected themselves to our jurisdiction as residents. Also, when people come here illegally, they have not subjected themselves to our jurisdiction either. Their children are what is called anchor babies.


75 posted on 09/14/2012 8:23:57 PM PDT by Jude in WV
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To: Kansas58
James Madison, Father of the Constitution

James Madison read deVattel Law of Nations. As a matter of fact, in his Constitutional notes, he cites the Law of Nations as a guide for the Constitution.

You are the “light weight” -— if your argument had ANY merit you would have a victory under your belt, somewhere, instead of abject humiliation and defeat.

Wish wish... Ms. Kansas, you need to pay more attention in class.

You have lost.

As I told you before, the truth is never 'over' or is it going to be lost.

76 posted on 09/14/2012 8:26:57 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: Fester Chugabrew
Thanks for your time in answering. A couple more questions:
1.) Do we know for certain that Zero's Dad was not exempt from prosecution under American law?

It looks like he was not exempt from prosecution

2.) What is the reason, in your opinion, for so much time and expense to obfuscate when it comes to Zero's birth records?

Obama wants the distraction. My guess is that Obama has many other things he wants to hide, and that he know he can win this argument, so this is where he makes his public fight.

3.) Given Zero's proclivities in regard to international affairs, along with the questions surrounding his birth documents, what amount of confidence do you have that he was actually born on American soil?

I am not at all confident, but until proof appears that he was born elsewhere, there is little that can be done under the law.
77 posted on 09/14/2012 8:28:44 PM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Kansas58
You have had your ass handed to you by every legal authority that exists, in this country.

You're getting your simpleton ass handed to here, and moreover, not every legal authority. Wrong again. And no, the courts have either misconstrued or evaded the issue. And I have addressed this as to why above.

Otherwise, you have lost.

Something broken? Your mouth is on skip.

78 posted on 09/14/2012 8:33:13 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Equal protection. If one state does it, then all states must do it-federal election.

That is what brought down the Fl supreme court ruling in the 2000 election.

The thing about this is the question, Is he constitutionally legal to run? Most of us know the answer to that question.

This brings a constitutional crisis.


79 posted on 09/14/2012 8:37:06 PM PDT by crz
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To: Kansas58

Have you read Larry Klayman’s letter to Bob Bauer? It’s at http://butterdezillion.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/complete-klayman-letter-to-bauer.pdf

Alvin Onaka has confirmed to AZ SOS Ken Bennett that Obama’s HI BC is legally non-valid. This changes everything.


80 posted on 09/14/2012 8:37:35 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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