Liars, and Thieves! Every last one of em!
actually the whole hawaii thing is a big distraction......name one other US president who did not have 2 us citizens for parents...........hawaii is not the question.....not natural born is so obvious the media has chose for us all to focus on hawaii
Yes-—it is irrational to say that we are not “birthers” which means that we believe the Pathological Liar in Chief.
It is the irrational thinking of Marxists—that people who disparage “birthers” are saying that Bambi has nothing to hide and is “truthful” which is insane.
It is one or the other-—why do the Alinsky on people who probably are the most informed and logical—the Birthers are much more likely to be correct because of the millions spent on hiding the “truth”.
the eligibility issue is an annoyance to them and a threat to their power over the constitution which was designed to protect us from the scum in government at all levels
US government has evolved into a Leviathan monster from the meter maid to the POTUS, it is our enemy
The USA was supposed to be the land where “The King who wore no clothes” type of leadership was never supposed to happen. Guess what?... We now live in a land filled with millions of people who completely embrace the king who is wearing no clothes. I sure hope King no clothes gets his just desserts, as he did in the story.
That fact is that one cannot be an honest conservative, if they believe that Obama was born in Hawaii and do not work to tell they world the truth regarding Obama not being natural born citizen.
In fact, the conservative movement does not need those who are unwilling to state the truth in that Obama is a Kenyan born Muslim.
The bottom line is that we all know something is not right. The media and virtually every politician of all political stripes are traitors to this country and it’s people. They should be brought to Justus. But worse yet, maybe we are guilty of the same thing for not having the courage to do what must be done to preserve this country for the next generation.
Doesn’t matter where he was born. It is almost certain that he has committed fraud relating to his college / law school admission applications and possibly federal aid. We are supposed to be a nation of laws. Our political “leaders” of all stripes are reinforcing that the law no longer matters. It’s all a lie and a good number of we the people are sick of it.
Want to get your blood pressure roiling? Read this:
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2008/10/obamas-mop-up-m.html
Exclusionary rhetoric like this is the mirror image of liberals calling anyone who doesn’t agree with Obama a racist. Calling people stupid can’t educate them and is counterproductive.
Coach, keep pounding away at the truth and act like it’s self-evident, but lose the “you are an idiot if you don’t agree” routine. Try “if you look at the evidence you will be convinced too” tack.
My dream is that Chris Christie...or someone like him on the national scene will get up on national tv and say...”why can’t we see Obama’s hard copy birth certificate? Why can’t we see his college apps? Why can’t we know who he dated in college (of whatever gender)? Why is his life such a closed book?”
Call out the media!!! Just as they protected John Edwards, they now protect Barry.
The problem I see it is too many people are so weak minded and lacking that they will die believing Socialism, Communism, Marxism and even Islam will answer their prayers, buy their bling, feed their tummies and take care of their families.
Too many people have lost sight of what America was supposed to be.
Too many people basically are traitors for supporting people like pelosi and Obama. They really can be called traitors.
These ‘conservatives’, as you call them, are as deep in Obama’s pocket as the rest of the MSM.
Notice that all of our leading ‘conservatives’, like O’Reilly, Rush and Hannity shy away of saying anything on the subject.
I fall in the third category. I believe the LFBC was a forgery and I believe the Obama/Hawaii resistance to disclosing the facts is very suspicious. However, it is stupid to say that someone who does not take position (a) is a fool or a coward. The agnostic position is a reasonable one.
John McCain was born on a foreign military base, but both of his parents were US citizens, making him eligible for the US Presidency.
Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., was indisputably NOT a US citizen, making Barack Hussein Obama, Jr. ineligible for the US Presidency, even if he were born on the steps of the US capitol building.
Was it Dale Carnegie who said that you’ll never persuade anyone by telling him he’s wrong?!
Actually, it seems pretty clear to quite a few conservatives that both the born in Kenya claims and the other ineligible claims are just conspiracy theories without a lot to back them up. But since you can’t say that here without being personally attacked, I think most freepers who believe that (myself included) have given up.
The describes ABC's Jake Tapper. From his recent article :
Trump revived the false claims about Obama’s birthplace on Thursday, citing a discredited story about a literary agency that mistakenly listed that Obama was born in Kenya in a recently discovered catalog of clients that included the president.
Discredited story ? The only thing discredited about the story was the agents claim that it was a fact checking error and that she mistakenly typed in Kenya instead of Hawaii ( authors with that same agency have said they provided their own bios and proof read them before it went to print ).
That idiot Tapper should do some fact checking himself. (Though he probably did and knows the truth. )
If Obama was born in Kenya, how come he’s never won a marathon?
There are Obama supporters who mock anyone who has concerns about Obama’s eligibility, by calling us birthers and worse. Then there are Obama supporters who acknowledge that there are some “irregularities”, but that we should all just ignore them because it is just a game that Obama is playing and that it is a loser politically.
Then you have the more insidious Obama supporters who pretend to be concerned about Obama’s eligibility but then make outrageous false statements. Many of the people who claim Romney is ineligible fall into this category. (Romney was born in this country and both his parents were citizens.) These posts are just designed to make it look like those of us with concerns are nuts.
There are numerous other distracting statements and arguments that are posted. Many are seeded by Obama supporters. Obama’s eligibility problems stand on their own. Chester Arthur's eligibility does not matter. Mitt Romney's eligibility does not matter. Whether Obama looks like his supposed maternal grandfather does not matter. There are numerous other arguments that we have had on these threads that really don't matter. It doesn't really even matter whether or not Obama supporters have successfully marginalized this issue. The arguments have largely been started by Obama supporters to keep us off balance.
What matters is that Obama has made extraordinary efforts to keep his records hidden... all of his records. What matters is that Obama has released through his subordinates... documents that a law enforcement agency has determined are poorly done fraudulent forgeries. What matters is that Obama himself through his literary agent claimed for 16 years to have been born in Kenya. What matters is that the official Obama life narrative has been proved repeatedly to be completely false. Where there is smoke there is fire; I have never seen so much smoke. What matters most of all is that once the United States of America ceases to be a nation which follows our own laws... we no longer will hold the moral high ground and we will sink into our own pit of mediocrity.
Obama is a pathological liar. He wouldn't have gone to the trouble of having his records hidden and scrubbed; he wouldn't have gone to the trouble of creating these forgeries if he was not concerned about his own eligibility. This issue needs to be thoroughly examined regardless of the consequences.
I do admit that if and when the country finally wakes up; when it finally is demonstrated that Obama is and always was ineligible... the ramifications are going to be almost endless. The illegal usurper has caused irreparable harm to the future of our children, our grandchildren, and even their grandchildren. But if enough of the people in this country still have the gumption to stand up and do for themselves then our nation will survive. Let's hope that they do.