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And So It Begins (A Greek Call To Revolution)
Market-Ticker ^ | 4/4/12 | Karl Denninger

Posted on 04/04/2012 3:16:52 PM PDT by Kartographer

And now, one man has taken his own life and left behind a note -- a call to revolution.

"The Tsolakoglou government has annihilated all traces for my survival, which was based on a very dignified pension that I alone paid for 35 years with no help from the state. And since my advanced age does not allow me a way of dynamically reacting (although if a fellow Greek were to grab a Kalashnikov, I would be right behind him), I see no other solution than this dignified end to my life, so I don’t find myself fishing through garbage cans for my sustenance. I believe that young people with no future, will one day take up arms and hang the traitors of this country at Syntagma square, just like the Italians did to Mussolini in 1945" the note said.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Society
KEYWORDS: denninger; ticker
The money quote:
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
John F. Kennedy


1 posted on 04/04/2012 3:16:58 PM PDT by Kartographer
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To: Kartographer; Travis McGee

Note that in the discussion “Matt Bracken” is quoted.


2 posted on 04/04/2012 3:29:50 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Kartographer
They, like the Greeks, had the opportunity to take banksters and arrest them for their crimes, giving them a fair and public trial and then imprisoning them.

Is he blaming the 2008 economic crash on banks? I always thought that coercing banks to make loans to unqualified people (with the Federal guarantee for default) was what led to the housing crash. Who are the 'banksters' anyway? Evil capitalists?

I think I will place the blame on Federally mandated social engineering - which Progressive elected officials were glad to place on the tab of the US taxpayer. And we're not done yet. As long as these geniuses continue their Marxist rejection of free market principles we may rest assured that future collapses are in store. But if you need a culprit, you need look no further than Congress.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIjoW_IXos4

3 posted on 04/04/2012 3:32:01 PM PDT by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: LucianOfSamasota
The 'banksters' hes referring to is Goldman. I'm sure there are others. The deals are considered legal, but moral is another matter. Now, the common citizen of Greece gets to suffer from the corrupt Gov't that used such mechanisms.
4 posted on 04/04/2012 3:42:08 PM PDT by Theoria (Rush Limbaugh: Ron Paul sounds like an Islamic terrorist)
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To: Kartographer

If this fellow wanted to kill those responsible for his situation, he made a good start by committing suicide. The Greek voters have enabled the elected officials that have bankrupted the country.

America is not far behind for the same reasons.


5 posted on 04/04/2012 3:42:08 PM PDT by TheDon (The Democrat Party, the party of the KKK (tm))
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To: Kartographer

Too many pension funds feed socialist government through bond markets. Those will all collapse. A studious, productive man can manage his own retirement better.


6 posted on 04/04/2012 3:44:12 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Kartographer
Note to the greeks: A revolution is an awful lot of work...
7 posted on 04/04/2012 4:53:01 PM PDT by Caipirabob (I say we take off and Newt the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...)
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To: Kartographer
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.

I'm not even sure JFK said this, but, if he did, it's as stupid as everything else that came out of his mouth.

8 posted on 04/04/2012 5:32:51 PM PDT by BfloGuy (The final outcome of the credit expansion is general impoverishment.)
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To: LucianOfSamasota

How about people who gave out mortgages then failed to follow any of the laws involved in recording and tracking those transaction even going as far as shredding the required documentation and then bundling those mortgages and selling them to others as solid gold/A1 investment knowing all the while that most of them were junk and then while pushing the sale of these solid investments they were betting against them on the backend.


9 posted on 04/04/2012 6:28:08 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
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10 posted on 04/04/2012 6:50:05 PM PDT by TomServo
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To: Kartographer; Theoria

When the ‘people’ get ‘free’ benefits from their elected government THEY DON’T CARE where the money comes from. Borrow it, steal it from my rich neighbor, print it, I DON’T CARE.

But when the debt comes due - NOW where’s the goat? Must be ‘banksters’ who didn’t actually commit a crime, but rather obeyed an immoral law? Or maybe they did not follow the reporting ‘rules’ that accompanied the immoral law? Or maybe they purposely set out to sell a ‘bad’ deal to the unsuspecting, and they doctored the books - BUT WHAT DO YOU EXPECT FROM BANKERS? YOU THINK THEY’RE YOUR FRIENDS? PASS all the reporting laws you want, and you will never stop people from insider trading. You will never stop people from selling swampland as prime farmland. But by all means, prosecute the ‘greedy’ businessmen whom you catch.

Blame the pol’s then. After all, they didn’t prosecute the ‘greedy’ businessmen (with whom they were sharing the spoils). BUT WHO ELECTED THEM? AND WHY? IF each of us votes for the man who provides (or promises) the most UNEARNED material gain, this is what we’ll get.

SOCIETY must be moral to avoid the current fate of western civilization. It’s simple: If you didn’t earn it, you don’t deserve it. ‘GREED’ is not a man or a corporation working hard to make money by creating a better product. GREED is the notion that somehow you deserve what did not work for, that you deserve the value created by another while offering nothing in return.

ALL value is created value which required the effort of man. The immorality consists of taking this value by force without compensation. SOCIALIST/MARXIST teachings are innately evil because they are antithetical to this truth, teaching an ‘equal’ share for an unequal contribution. As long as we personally derive any benefit from socialist practices we are each guilty.


11 posted on 04/05/2012 6:40:27 AM PDT by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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