Posted on 03/26/2012 8:49:40 PM PDT by Nachum
Edited on 03/26/2012 10:02:28 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
So just what was his punk-ass doing in that neighborhood that night at that hour? Is George Zimmerman actually a hero?
Excerpted from MiamiHerald
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Stand your ground can’t really apply anyway. That law says you don’t have to retreat if you’re seriously threatened. But if someone is on top of you beating on your head you have no way to retreat you’re pinned to the ground. It’s purely self defense.
“complicated portrait”
The portrait is not complicated.
Reminds me of this, too:
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“He was a guud keed”!
He didn't even have to do that. Just go to where he's staying, and walk in.
Instead, he stares down Zimmerman from a distance, walks toward Zimmerman's vehicle and stares some more, then turns and runs.
What bother me about this incident isn't the incident, per se, it's that this is just one more of many examples where the media mischaracterizes a current event. The real story in this incident is the media - not Martin and Zimmerman.
What makes you think that, besides your own preconception?
Are you basing your conclusion that Martin was in fear on the media, or are you projecting how you think you would feel in a similar situation?
The evidence presented doesn't show Martin having any fear, at all. It is much more likely that he was angry, than afraid.
You are naive to a fault.
The real story in this incident is the media - not Martin and Zimmerman.
Amen! When combined with race baiting poverty pimp not-so-sharp-Sharpton's PMSNBC role: beginning to resemble a Rodney King redux.
Pray for our republic,
OLA
If this had been reported as an angry black male eluding, then chasing down and beating a small fat man who had been watching him, and the black teen tried to take the firearm of the fat man who then decided it was kill or be killed, you know that there wouldn’t be so many people saying “Martin was afraid” and “It is perfectly reasonable for Martin to have try to beat up the fat man.”
I have a sister whose family lives in a very upscale suburb of Detroit. Years ago, when ninjas were in vogue, my two nephews dressed up as ninjas and were running around the neighborhood and hiding behind stuff, as only kids do. One of the neighbors saw these suspicious characters and called the cops and within minutes they were on scene and apprehended the wild ninjas........LOL! Scared the crap out of the kids and they never did that again.
Nope,
Just one of Holders “people.
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Do you have children?
Exactly what would you teach them about how to deal with strange men following them in a car (after dark) and then getting out of the car to follow them on foot?
I would have a hard time believing you if you answered, "I'd tell my kids to 'just chat' with the stranger following them at night.".
Nope, you'd tell them to put distance between themselves and the stranger. This is what Martin did...he ran.
Then you'd (hopefully) tell them to fight if the stranger got too close.
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Report? Do you mean he was arrested? Or did the Miami PD just let him get away with "beating down a bus driver"?
And, yes, I saw the FB question from some other kid (you say it was his brother). I didn't see any response saying 'yeah, I swung on him".
It would be better if everybody just stuck with what is known about that one particular night.
Once you start bringing prior "known" acts that can be substantiated by police reports then you start down a road that might not fit the narrative that you want. There are no "known" cases of violence by Martin but there are two "known" cases of violence by Zimmerman (as an adult).
It is also "known" through the Zimmerman tape that Zimmerman followed Martin but that Martin avoided a confrontation by running. Nobody here has any genuine knowledge about what happened after that call and before the 911 calls that reported the fight already in progress.
Based solely on what is "known" and not idle speculation, Zimmerman is the player with a history of violence who took the aggressive path that night.
If you have proof that contradicts this then please provide it...and Zimmerman's statement, in the absence of neutral corroboration, is not proof of anything.
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In Zimmerman's taped call to the PD he says that Martin ran. One runs away to avoid contact.
There is nothing that proves that Martin then confronted Zimmerman.
Yes, I reared my nephew who is now 20-years old.
He is always courteous. If he was in a gated community and someone asked why he was there, he would politely answer the query. If he was on a public street and approached by a stranger, the outcome would be different (my nephew has a black belt in Kadjukenbo Kung-fu). More than one idiot has eaten cement in this town thinking the kid was an easy target.
Mr.Zimmerman has, as a member of community watch, a history of informing the Sanford police of questionable or suspicious activity in that gated community. He does not, as far as I can ascertain, have a history of violent confrontations, something community watch folks are warned against doing.
If you go to the City of Sanford’s online site, the telephone calls are all there as well as a report from the City Manager, Norton Bonaparte
http://www.sanfordfl.gov/index.html
http://www.sanfordfl.gov/investigation/docs/Zimmerman_Martin_shooting.pdf
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You are, perhaps conveniently, neglecting to include the part about Zimmerman following Martin in his truck and then on foot. You also neglect the fact that neither Zimmerman nor his vehicle displayed any symbols of authority.
I have raised six kids. I was a cop. My kids are taught to create as much separation between themselves and anybody following them as they can....even if it means running away, which is what Zimmerman said Martin did.
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Look harder...he was arrested twice for violence.
And, community watch folks are also warned against following or pursuing.
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Look harder...he was arrested twice for violence.
And, community watch folks are also warned against following or pursuing.
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