Posted on 03/18/2012 7:42:17 PM PDT by Fred
Last week Rick Santorum vowed to end America’s “pandemic of pornography,” insisting that if he were president he would limit the rights of adults to show and view images of consenting adults having sex. No doubt there is too much pornography in this country, and anyone thinking of watching it should go read their Bible instead. But what I want in a president is a pragmatist, not a panderer.
It would have been one thing for Santorum to say that his real crusade is against pedophilia or against child trafficking. Those are real evils that must be stopped. But that’s not what he said.
Here’s why Santorum should stop talking about porn.
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Try : The Obama Administration: All Your Privacy And All Your Stuff Belong To Us (Wake up America!)
I guess that means that if voters vote the wrong way too many times we just cancel the vote too? After all we would be doing it for the right reasons and we wouldnt want to condome things they support with their vote by allowing it. But if Obama did it that would be completely different...evil .... unconstitutional...
In a recent sermon at our church, the pastor said that the cell phone companies have said that they have monitored downloads at professional sporting events and that 50% of them are for pornography.
Rick's "pandemic of pornography" is a morals issue, it is not a nanny state gov't issue.
We understand the evil agitprop of the MSM. They will try to destroy whomever runs against the Marxist in Chief. The trick is to not give them ammo-—anywhere-—but if they find NOTHING they will attack anyway, they will lie.
We need someone who can explain things like Reagan——and look good on camera while doing it. With the media, though-—they can make anyone look like an idiot and play it over and over.
“Handing your child a computer and internet with no controls (which are easily available to get) and then demanding that the Feds censor it to protect them for you is like handing your kid a loaded handgun with the safety on and then demanding federal gun control laws to protect him from it.”
I disagree. The porn should not be easily available...the internet is public domain (like the air waves) and subject to Federal Regulation because it is “interstate.” The “handgun” analogy is ludricrous and flawed. Firearm possesion is protected by the 2nd Ammendment. Also, a loaded firearm presents an obvious, except to a total moron, a clear danger to a child. Pornography is not so clear to many in the degraded world we live in....although it does present a danger on many levels - but not an immediate threat to life.
I’m sick to my soul of IDIOTS that defend pornography as a 1st Ammendment Right. That was NEVER the intention of the framers...they were concerned about protecting religious and political discourse....not prurile entertainment. Fears about restrictions on pornography at the federal level where it CONSTITUTIONALLY belongs is just plain paranoia. Plus, it cannot spill over to political and religious discourse because those are protected by the constitution. The “slippery slope” falacy is being used extensively on this issue.
I’m NOT saying this is YOUR position, but I suspect that those that yell the most about restrictions on porn are those most addicted and perversely affected by it....they don’t want their supply of prurile entertainment repressed....regardless of the negative effects it is having on our culture. There is NOTHING conservative about protecting Porn....that is pure LIBERTARIAN manure and NOT conservative. Libertarians are afraid of a slipery slope regarding Porn but don’t see a real slippery slope on gateway drug use leading to harder/dangerous abuse. An amazing hypocracy.
I have checked Santorum’s website to see what he is actually proposing. He just wants to enforce existing laws...and will pick an AG who will do so.
“Morality must come from deep in one’s soul. It can be taught (especially by example from parents, teachers, etc.) but it can’t be forced.”
As you rightly say morality is internal. However, this isn’t about attempting to make anyone moral. This is about putting limits on smut that mentally harms those that partake of it intentionally or by exposure. We are NOT regulating “morality” we are regulating behavior. Jesus Christ said that if a man has murderous thoughts he has already committed murder in the eyes of God. However, we don’t attempt to regulate thought, I cannot keep someone from having murderous (immoral) thoughts. However, I can make murder so heavily punishable by law that, to it is discouraging persons to resort to it. I’m NOT regulating morality by making murder illegal...I’m regulating behavior.
Also, none of us can live in a vacuum. Even if I were successful in shielding myself and family from all porn...I still have to live and interact each day by those soiled...sometimes dangerously so, by it. IF you degrade society you degrade my life. There is NO victimless crime...someone suffers. Don’t buy into Libertarian manure. Legal porn has an adverse effect on me and mine, legalized drugs have an adverse effect on me and mine...and on it goes. Libertarians and Liberals are both equally dangerous in my thinking....both would destroy/degrade my country.
“Newt is way too smart to get tangled up in contraception etc.”
I have supported Newt because he is morally conservative. He is on record saying that he will enforce existing laws against pornograpy just as Santorum has.
Now, bearing in mind that I support Newt, I must ask....is he too smart or not courageous enough? It is a legitimate question.
“Dems were crossing over in TN AL MS and even FL to cause havoc. It was NOT due to Newt being not accepted. Some people prefer Romney over Rick, what does that say..(no answer required)”
The FACTS I have read do NOT support your assertions. As many crossovers were voting for Romney, if not more.
BTW - I AM NOT RICK SANTORUM’s APOLOGIST. I have supported Newt. I only jump into these discussions because folks are wrongly jumping on Santorum. When they wrongly jump on Newt, I come to his aid as well.
Newt is not perfect. Nobody is. But compared to Santo, Newt is much more savvy in fielding questions from the press. Newt realizes that arguing about contraception with reporters is a fool’s paradise. Did you hear Santo’s remarks today which went something like “I don’t care what the unemployment rate is”....you would’nt catch Newt dead saying something like that, even out of context.
But in the end, if Santo gets the nomination, you bet I will break down all barriers to vote for him in general.
I never believed that but the framers who had never seen a simple telephone could have never comprehended world wide internet with computers with cameras in a billion homes all with the ability to reach around the world. Porn is less of a business and more of a cheap hobby, the 1970s and 1980s with porn shops and 8mm movies and glossy magazines in the racks and seedy Times Square strips are long gone.
About RS, if he wants to actually win and accomplish something he needs to set realistic goals and then work to convince others that they are in their best interest. So far he is not doing that very well. He talks about an moral issue, then looks at the polls and claims that it's the MSM that wants to talk about it not him.
Ron Paul is pretty good at demanding the ideal like few laws, next to no government and no military. Notice he never gets anything accomplished. I don't think he's ever got spending cut. That is living in the ideal not reality.
“That’s #57 of the 128 phrases all O-Bots are programmed to utter at the press of a button.”
Just because Mr. Obama and his minions will abuse power doesn’t negate the FACT that the internet is by the COTUS, subject to the federal government. Mr. Obama isn’t enforcing current law on porn. So, why would you even remotely attempt to say this is an Obama or Democrat or liberal idea?
It is all about attempting to maintain some semblance of a decent society that is family friendly.
Steve Schmidt has a picture in the dictionary next to the word loser. Our only similarity is that we grew up about 15 minutes from each other in New Jersey....
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