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Grime Wave: Tide Detergent Thefts Sky Rocket; Masses Turn to Black Market For Essential Goods
SHTF Plan ^ | 3/14/12 | Mac Slavo

Posted on 03/14/2012 3:17:13 PM PDT by Kartographer

With real unemployent approaching 25% of the population, 50 million Americans on food stamps, and the prices of essential goods rising every month, it’s no surprise that black market peddlers are turning to new product offerings to make a buck.

In What Is Money When the System Collapses? we highlighted some items that would take the place of traditional currency in the event of a catastrophic financial and economic collapse – things like food, fuel, firearms and footwear.

But for many, the world as they know it has already collapsed. Unable to afford retail prices for home essentials, these people will do what they need to in order to survive, and that includes the bartering and exchange of goods similar to what will happen in a complete economic meltdown. As Brandon Smith of Alt-Market recently pointed out, when the totalitarians squeeze the masses, those rebelling against the system because they have been left with no other choice will turn to the free (black) market to make ends meet.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Society
KEYWORDS: beprepared; food; getreadyhereitcomes; preparations; preparenow; prepperping; selfreliance; shtf; shtfplan; survivalping; tide
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To: PA Engineer

It’s caused by Normalcy Bias. ChocChipCookie had a good article on her blog about sometime back:

Normalcy Bias: It’s All in Your Head

http://thesurvivalmom.com/2010/12/29/normalcy-bias/


21 posted on 03/14/2012 5:28:10 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

This all smells of a setup, i’ll bet they will be claiming that Tide can be used for makin’ meth so they can clamp down on preppers, but maybe I am paranoid...


22 posted on 03/14/2012 5:42:13 PM PDT by GraceG
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To: GraceG

I doubt it, there’s really nothing special about Tide as a soap formula.

I think it’s more an example of clever advertising being able to produce a “price premium” for a product.

My wife says the Sam’s Club Member’s Mark and Costco Kirkland branded stuff works just as well.


23 posted on 03/14/2012 5:47:11 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: PUGACHEV

Some folks are enTIDEled to it. Kind of like Jordan BBshoes.


24 posted on 03/14/2012 5:49:01 PM PDT by dforest
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To: Kartographer

This is just crooks stealing something they can pedal easily to make money for buying drugs or whatever.

To me “black market” implies that the product is not available in quantities that people want to buy. I’ve not heard of any shortages of Tide or other laundry detergents.


25 posted on 03/14/2012 5:52:28 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: q_an_a

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/03/13/police-deny-reports-nationwide-spike-in-tide-detergent-theft/

This story says its basically false.


26 posted on 03/14/2012 6:17:46 PM PDT by suthener
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To: q_an_a

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/03/13/police-deny-reports-nationwide-spike-in-tide-detergent-theft/

This story says its basically false.


27 posted on 03/14/2012 6:25:50 PM PDT by suthener
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To: upcountry miss

Sounds like Fels Naftha soap. It’s still around, just not in every store.


28 posted on 03/14/2012 7:14:54 PM PDT by Ellendra ("It's astounding how often people mistake their own stupidity for a lack of fairness." --Thunt)
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To: upcountry miss

It sounds like you’re talking about Fels Naptha soap. It’s still around, though I’ve never seen it featured prominently. Try your local grocery store or Walmart.


29 posted on 03/14/2012 7:53:59 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: suthener

You post 1 Link and I posted 51 and video of one of the thieves in action. As Groucho said: “Who you going to believe me or your own eyes.


30 posted on 03/14/2012 11:45:21 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: nascarnation

A black Market is also goods trade at below retail value. If I steal a truck load of Cigarettes in NC and take them up to NY and sell them that’s Black Marketeering.


31 posted on 03/15/2012 12:01:47 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: dforest
Here's Tide bar Laundry soap
32 posted on 03/15/2012 3:28:19 AM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: Altariel; Ellendra

That’s it. Couldn’t think of the name.


33 posted on 03/15/2012 4:33:07 AM PDT by upcountry miss
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To: Kartographer

Shades of Weimar Germany circa 1919-20 before the hyperinflation kicked in. The black market bartering stage cranks up.


34 posted on 03/15/2012 12:34:53 PM PDT by OB1kNOb (The prudent see danger and take refuge, but the simple keep going and pay the penalty. - Prov 22:3)
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To: upcountry miss

Fels naptha soap still sold..


35 posted on 03/15/2012 4:55:46 PM PDT by GregB (I will follow Sarah where ever she goes!)
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To: Kartographer

First of all, I’m a fellow prepper; I have downloaded and read your preparedness guide. I always read your posts. Having said that, 100 internet sources and 1 video do not a crisis make. I was just providing another view of the story. Sorry if that offended you. I’ll make it a point to never do anything that might in any way appear to be disagreeing with you.


36 posted on 03/15/2012 6:08:48 PM PDT by suthener
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To: Kartographer

Found another article on this... drug dealers are accepting Tide as barter store of wealth:

http://bastiat.mises.org/2012/03/tide-as-money/
Tide as Money

Posted by Douglas French on Mar 15, 2012

“A number of things have served as money throughout history: shells, tobacco leaves, even cigarettes in POW camps and prisons. Now those operating in the urban drug trade are using Tide detergent as currency.
Supermarkets and drug stores in some areas of the country can’t keep the detergent on the shelves. During a recent police raid on a drug dealer’s home in Washington D.C., the police found what they expected—cocaine—but also noted the 20 large bottles of Tide on the dealer’s shelves.
It turns out users paid the dealer in Tide rather than U.S. dollars. And why not, Proctor & Gamble’s best selling laundry soap is holding its value better than the government’s greenbacks.”


37 posted on 03/16/2012 12:23:53 AM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: PUGACHEV; Kartographer
What’s so special about Tide?

It gets clothes really clean.

It comes in pretty, bold orange packaging.

The Original Tide Scent is wonderfully fresh and clean, and is sort of like Annik Goutal's "Eau de Hadrien" fragrance.

38 posted on 03/16/2012 12:58:36 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: suthener; upchuck; PA Engineer; JerseyHighlander

Well here’s the thing not only did I post a link to multiple references to the story, but two other Freepers (PA Engineer and upchuck) both posted links with multiple references that their research turned up. There were also other Freepers posting reference like JerseyHighlander post #37 it wasn’t like I had based the thread on one single story from somewhere like WND. And then you post one link to a story saying that it was all false and seem to feel that was a definitive answer.

Well call me old fashion, but before I virtually call a man a fool or a liar I would want a bit more back-up.

On top of this you and others as well missed what I was trying to convey in posting the story it is that this is the type of behavior you see in collapsing economies and societies.

No there is no shortage of Tide and no there’s no big conspiratorial cadre making drugs out of it, but what there is a shortage of is money in peoples pockets. Millions who haven’t haven’t worked for months and can’t even hang on to their homes, so yes they eagerly snatch a $10-15-20 bottle of Tide for half it’s retail price and no question ask.

People are really hurting and now common things that they wouldn’t have ever bothered stealing or buying stolen in the past is becoming more common and acceptable to them.

This hurts everyone in the end of course as the cost gets past on to others until the point where they can’t afford the commodity either or to where the manufacturer and retailer can cover their cost and losses either.

I take some of the blame here that maybe I didn’t make this point as plain as I could have.

Consider the hatchet buried.


39 posted on 03/16/2012 1:36:34 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

It was very clear to me after working in many third world countries. See it all before. Just many the biggest mouths have never experienced those realities before. Thanks for the threads.


40 posted on 03/16/2012 3:27:51 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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