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ON BANKS REFUSING CASH WITHDRAWALS
http://www.barnhardt.biz/ ^ | 1/19/12 | ANN BARNHARDT

Posted on 01/19/2012 5:17:54 PM PST by Kartographer

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To: Wuli
I didn't think they got OBL when I first heard about it. It is highly likely that OBL didn't survive Tora Bora. The Indian and Chinese press said that a squabble among bodyguards and others led to OBL and Mullah Omar getting shot but that Omar survived. Omar did, indeed, turn up some time later. OBL never did. When a tape came out as from OBL the CIA first doubted it then said something that, when parsed, meant well maybe so, or well, some people think so. That was my own take. I still think that whoever the unfortunate fellow was that Seal Tram 6 killed, it was not OBL. Politically OBL was indeed finished by the operation. I think the government/military kept him "alive" because were it made public that he was dead at Toa Bora the clamor domestically for the US to withdraw because we had Won The War would have been politically deafening and continuing it would have been politically very difficult.

OBL was never the reason we went into Afghanistan. Disrupting AQ and its fellow organizations and getting an American presence in Central Asia were very important and we needed OBL to stay alive while we did that. The kenyan wanted/wants to get out of Asia and to lay off his Islamist colleagues so OBL was "killed."

41 posted on 01/20/2012 7:17:47 AM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "EconomiIt is not impossibllcs In One Lesson.")
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To: Nifster

A cashiers check is the same as cash but with a paper trail.


Not exactly the same as cash. However there are cashier check scams in today’s environment more so with the advent of the internet.

Do a search on cashier check scams and you find some interesting info.


42 posted on 01/20/2012 7:29:21 AM PST by deport (..............God Bless Texas............)
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To: Kartographer

Class warfare warrior.


43 posted on 01/20/2012 7:34:03 AM PST by verity (The Obama Administration is a Criminal Enterprise.)
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To: Erasmus

“They didn’t know what a “zero-balance lockbox account” was,”

I’d never heard of that type of account. Are they still around and what is the benefit?


44 posted on 01/20/2012 9:09:09 AM PST by CSM (Keeper of the "Dave Ramsey Fan" ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Kartographer

We operate with two currencies intermingled.
One is physical dollars, of which most is on loan to someone else.
Other is debt dollars, which exists entirely in the form of transferrable digital IOUs (making a chain back to the Federal Reserve).
The former is about 1/10th of what’s claimed to exist. Much of what exists is locked up in very large very secure vaults, and isn’t going anywhere.
The latter is impossible to withdraw per se, as it has no form beyond recorded debt.
So yeah it’s hard to cash out in large amounts. There isn’t enough paper dollars to go around.


45 posted on 01/20/2012 9:22:37 AM PST by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: CSM

My friend’s story is the only time I’ve heard of them too. It sounds like a ‘virtual’ account in which you keep no balance, but you can dispense funds from, triggering automatic transfers from some master account.

I suppose it’s a way of tracking your expenditures, or those of your agents and assigns. It probably sidesteps certain bank expenses, such as the minimum balance requirement. I wouldn’t be surprised if there were tax advantages, since tax issues now pervade every aspect of our lives.


46 posted on 01/20/2012 12:46:17 PM PST by Erasmus (Singing: "Zhivago, Zhivago, you come when I'm sick...")
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Banks are so strangely idiotic. I guess it rubbed off from their intimate contact with the gummint since basically forever.

BTW, I should explain that the bank mentioned in my story was not the B of A.


47 posted on 01/20/2012 12:50:21 PM PST by Erasmus (Singing: "Zhivago, Zhivago, you come when I'm sick...")
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To: Erasmus

Interesting.....


48 posted on 01/20/2012 4:52:38 PM PST by CSM (Keeper of the "Dave Ramsey Fan" ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

“Bingo. I tried to cash a check at BOFA a year or so ago for $3,000. You would have thought I was robbing Fort Knox. The teller looked at the check like it was a snake then called the Head teller over. “

Tell me more about the check. I assume it was made out to you. Did you sign it or did someone else? Was it drawn on another bank?


49 posted on 01/20/2012 5:08:50 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

“Tell me more about the check. I assume it was made out to you. Did you sign it or did someone else? Was it drawn on another bank?”

It was a check from my BOFA corporate checking account which I made out to myself and signed. I had had an acct at that bank for 17 years. They did the same thing to my fiancee’ who also had a corporate checking acct there. In fact they told him that any check over $5,000 you had to order the cash 2 days in advance. I kid you not.

A bank that is basically insolvent does not have much cash. They barely keep enough cash to do that day’s business. Anytime one of the 4 largest banks in the country cannot cash a $3,000 check there is a big problem.

Thankfully we are gone from BOFA never to return. We moved everything over to a small Asian owned commercial international bank where I have had an acct for years. They will move millions around for you all day long no problem.


50 posted on 01/20/2012 8:39:57 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: CSM
My company used to use them for payroll. Since it was a company with over ten thousand employees the weekly payroll was rather large and if they had moved the money to a checking account out of their interest earning master account they would have lost a significant amount every week. Keeping a couple million in a earning account for even one day is to the company's advantage.

It did occasionally cause a problem and we would get the call from a panicked employee wanting to know if the company had gone under because "the cashier said there was no money in the account!"

If you deal with large sums of money and you want the money working rather then just sitting there then they are good things to have. But unless you deal with millions they generally aren't worth it.

51 posted on 01/20/2012 8:58:55 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (In the good times praise His name, In the bad times do the same, In everything give thanks)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

“It was a check from my BOFA corporate checking account which I made out to myself and signed. I had had an acct at that bank for 17 years.”

OK. I got it. Any check that is made out to yourself and signed by your self is automatically scrutinized. This is an internal control mechanism designed to prevent “kiting”.(A fraudulent scheme which puts the bank at risk of losing money).

In addition, any transaction $3000.00 or over has to have special handling due to Federal Government money laundering rules. It used to be $10,000. They may have lowered it to less than $3000 by now.

Drug dealers have “smurfs” who spend their entire day running around to various banks, post offices etc. turning drug money into laundered funds.

Banks only keep the amount of cash on hand that they typically need to cover the usual cash flow. The rest is at the Federal Reserve Bank. This is to reduce risk of loss in case of robberies for example.

Also, the large banks due to all the mergers that have transpired are often running on numerous versions of software, which sometimes leads to inaccurate data and/or difficulty with access to info.

You will almost always have better service from a small bank who really “knows their customer” than a large bank that has to go by policies and procedures due to large volumes of customers, rather than a personal relationship.

I use the small community banks or state banks for most of my day to day stuff for just this reason.


52 posted on 01/20/2012 10:06:42 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: arthurus

you sound like the author of the nutty “seal team six OBL operastion” conspiracy theory that Ms Barnhardt tried to spread - pure conspiracy theory speculation without a sshred of evidence and with zero support anywhere except fellow-travelers who, with similar lack of foundation, accept the same nutty belief


53 posted on 01/22/2012 9:49:43 AM PST by Wuli
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To: mouse1

Where’s your (or anyone else’s) proof it wasn’t?

A theory is not proof.


54 posted on 01/22/2012 9:53:49 AM PST by Wuli
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To: Georgia Girl 2

My mortgage is with WF. I just hope they hold it together long enough for it to be paid off, just for the paperwork hassle that them going belly-up would cause on that front. I just have a few years to go.
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55 posted on 01/22/2012 10:18:48 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Kartographer

“but then the whole Bin Laden thing has been ‘hinky’ from the start with both the Seal Teams and Powers that be claiming and then disclaiming things.”

among whatever was claimed and subsequently disclaimed, regarding the operation’s details,

the core essentiqals, that they ID’d OBL, that the Seal Team Six unit killed him, and that his body was dumped at sea

(to forever remove the possibility of returning his reamins to anyone, or us giving them a “proper burial” and a gravesite, and those remians thereafter becoming a pilgrimage site - as POTUS I would done the same thing)

those core elements were not among the “confused” aspects of the reports.

As far as I am concerned, this was not so much an achievement of Obama as it was the achievement of a continuous priority intelligence effort, begun under the GW Bush admin, carried out thereafter by the same intelligence and military people who were given this mission at that time, and it’s final success came by THEIR efforts, while Obama was the passenger in the WH.

Had OBL’s team earlier made the final fatal mistakes that provided the intelligence opportunities we needed to cinch identification of his whereabouts, his end could have come sooner, even before the Obama admin. Had OBL’s team never yet made their final fatal mistakes, our OBL-hunting team would still be working on their mission.

Due to the role of our media and the way it works, it creates an ignorant American public that assigns every national problem and everything American’s could be happy about, during any period of time, as end products of the resident of the WH at that same time.

Often, especially with the economy, our presidents are often no more than the passengers, like us, witnessing conditions - good or bad - that have their core causes in things that happended and long-term forces that preceded their time in office.

This is not to say that a president, like Obama, cannot be blamed for anything today. However, even now, when it comes to the economic conditions today, Obama can be blamed most not for directly creating them as much as for his arrogance that he could direct some Federal magic wands that would quickly repair them (an economy felled by an economic bubble that burst will recover sooner and with greater repair with less-government interference in the markets, not more), and for the arrogance that his paricular policies (Federal pump-priming stimulus) would do that.

In time, we may (most likely) be able to blame him more for direct national-economy problems that will likely arise mostly after he leaves office as a result of conditions created by policy decisions he is making now.

Given all I bave said above, as those problems become manifested in the economy, the role and the behavior of the media will assuridly place them in the blame column of whomever is the resident in the WH at the time; because they will happen “on their watch”.

As far as OBL’s death is concerned, in the largest truth of it, Obama was the resident WH passenger at the time; and little more. If he can be given any credit at all, at the most it would be for not changing or ending the special OBL-hunting operations established and intiated by his predecessor.


56 posted on 01/22/2012 10:42:02 AM PST by Wuli
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To: FreedomPoster

You would not have anything to worry about. I was 27 years in the mortgage business. All that would happen if Wells went under is that their portfolio would get sold to someone else and you would send your check to a different address.


57 posted on 01/22/2012 10:47:51 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: greeneyes; Kartographer; dalereed; JRandomFreeper

http://www.finra.org/Industry/Issues/AML/
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090205191027AAOr0jC

You’re right, due to Anti-Money Laundering, Know Your Customer and Patriot Act rules banks are forced into some pretty stringent reporting when it comes to cashing checks and depositing/transferring/withdrawing money.

The ATM restrictions are there so the machines don’t run out of money too quick and if the withdrawal is large enough certain paperwork must be filled out and the customer must provide verifiable information (Patriot Act). The limit is also dependent on what type of customer you are, usually calculated by a score that takes into account your total relationship with the bank, deposits, activities, etc. Most people get a standard $500 limit, others might have $1000/1500 or even $250.

Trust me, I work in technology at a bank and have to take a test every year! We have systems upon systems to handle/report due to these government restrictions.

Oh, don’t ask a teller or other branch worker, rules and regulations disallow them from talking to you about everything they have to do. Wait until Dodd/Frank is fully implemented...


58 posted on 01/22/2012 10:49:57 AM PST by RedWing9 (Zero sucks... Jesus Rocks...)
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To: RedWing9
Exactly, I've been retired for a long time, but I started my career as a bank auditor, moved to the control dept., and on to the treasury dept., then to an investment firm. One of the most interesting training sessions, I had was FBI talking about the smurfs, money laundering, and fraudulent schemes involving ATMs.

The technology that is involved to meet regulations is amazing, and still it can't prevent a lot of things.

59 posted on 01/22/2012 12:21:50 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Wuli

No proof...but it certainly sounds suspicious


60 posted on 01/22/2012 6:52:40 PM PST by mouse1
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