Posted on 11/19/2011 2:28:43 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o
Class, discuss.
Your thoughts?
The Current FReepathon Pays For The Current Quarters Expenses?
He got a sweet gift of gab, he got a harmonious tongue
He knows every song of love that ever has been sung
Good intentions can be evil
Both hands can be full of grease
You know that sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace
I ran field operations for Catholics Against Kerry. We reversed the slide of Catholics toward Democrats by bring our co-religionists the truth about Obama. Since the media will can people like Frances Kissling and her pro abortion group Catholics for Choice and anyone who ever walked past a Catholic Church to lie about how Catholics will vote it will be hard to get the truth, but actual adherent Catholics did NOT vote for Obama and I don’t believe they will this time either.
The Notre Dame speech will come back to haunt him as will his infanticide past and his insistence that Catholic hospitals commit abortions in order to get federal funds. I’m with Gerson. BTW where is that ash hole Kmiec or however you spell his name? Rememberr he told us Obama held Catholic values?
My thoughts....Anybody that votes Democrat in any way shape or form, is not only NOT pro life, but is simply NOT Christian.
To vote Democrat in any way shape or form would mean that a person supported infanticide,gay marriage and removal of GOD/Jesus/Bible/prayer from the public square/classroom.
To vote Democrat in any way shape or form would mean that a person supported the removal of Christian crosses from Veteran`s cemeteries, embryonic stem cell research,and yes it would even mean they supported a Cross of Jesus in a glass of urine as being a art form.The latter is a view supported by Justice Ginsburg.
BTW moderate Republicans will have to answer for these views as well. They would love to vote for such things, they just happen to vote Republican for fiscal reasons.
Anybody that truly had The Spirit of Christ within them, could not/would not vote or support such things.
Most Democrats that attend these Liberal Churches have convinced themselves completely that this is just politics and God will surely overlook it.
The arguments have been made,there are no excuses, a vote for a Democrat is a vote for infanticide,anti Christian values and all the trimmings.
This is the view I hold, and it`s unshakable.
Liberals will vote for the prince. Conservatives and anybody with half a brain will not. There will be more Kmiecs just as there have always been judas goats. Some sheep may follow but mostly not. I would hope there are Catholics who voted for this clown the first time who will have no part of him this time but those who switch will not be doing it based on the Church, they will do it based on their plunging net worth and empty pockets.
Unfortunately far too many Catholics are married to the Democratic party and won’t listen to facts or reason.
They don’t deserve to call themselves Catholic (c.f. Pelosi, the Kennedys, etc...) but they do. The Church needs to get tough with them but it won’t.
Zero knows he will get plenty of so-called “Catholic” votes regardless of what he does. Anyone who votes for Zero is an idiot, no matter what the religion.
I think that last time around, Obama’s extreme anti-life views were hidden from most of the electorate. The media made a point of hiding them, and of course Juan McCain completely blew it. He barely touched on the issue.
Obama voted three times against the Infants Born Alive protection act. His Chicago “church” owned a hospital that practiced abortion, and threw several babies out on the roof to die.
But who knew it? Only those of us who followed the news more closely. It certainly didn’t get on the evening TV shows, nor was it ever really mentioned in the “debates.”
I suppose some Catholic voters are still ignorant. And there are always the non-church-going dissidents. But I doubt whether Obama will do as well among Catholic voters as he did last time. Especially if the bishops and pastors speak out.
This is simple, mr obama is out and out the most pro abortion occupant ever in the wh.
He has not tried to hide it like 2008. If abortion matters to someone than they will not vote for mr obama. If they vote for him their not catholic anyway
Ping!
So? He's already done so much damage it'll take a decade to unravel it all if it can even all be unraveled. That's one really expensive lesson for the gullible Catholics who voted for the guy in spite of his defying the Church. It would have been far better for everyone involved if Catholics had listened to the Church and simply refused to vote for someone who openly advocates the same eugenics policies that Hitler applied.
People who pretend to know more than Church that Christ started aren't Catholics who have strayed, they're Protestants and like all other Protestants they consider themselves infallible across the board, not just in the narrow way the Church states that the Pope is infallible. They should all leave the Catholic Church and join the herd that doesn't even pretend to believe in anything other than their own understanding.
The fact is, those who voted for Obama in 2008 need to go ahead and admit that they're no longer Catholic. That or admit that they can't make moral decisions pleasing to Christ on their own and return His Church begging for forgiveness every step of the way.
JMHO
What kind of “Catholic”s are they? I bet if you polled churchgoing Catholics the results would have been much different as they always are.
Why, they're solid "Spirit of Vatican II" Protestant Catholics who look to their own understanding for answers in all matters of faith and morality.
I agree, had they asked Catholics who did more than check the the box that has "Catholic" beside it on a questionnaire, they'd have gotten a much different result. The problem is, those folks have had sufficient influence in enough quarters to weaken the Catholic Church and true Catholics.
Charity, Mercy, long suffering, these are things I understand, suicide I don't understand. Many Church leaders in this country have long seen the Church in the US as as something set apart that is free to commit suicide and become just another secular self-gratification system. Why such a drive to suicide has been left to run its course I don't know, but it has run its course and the Church in this country before long be far stronger than it was prior to the Protestantization that so many Bishops and Priests indulged in using "The Spirit of Vatican II" as their smokescreen.
Hence, by a new species of impiety, unheard of even among the heathen nations, states have been constituted without any count at all of God or of the order established by him; it has been given out that public authority neither derives its principles, nor its majesty, nor its power of governing from God, but rather from the multitude, which, thinking itself absolved from all divine sanction, bows only to such laws as it shall have made at its own will. The supernatural truths of faith having been assailed and cast out as though hostile to reason, the very Author and Redeemer of the human race has been slowly and little by little banished from the universities, the Iyceums and gymnasia -- in a word, from every public institution. In fine, the rewards and punishments of a future and eternal life having been handed over to oblivion, the ardent desire of happiness has been limited to the bounds of the present. Such doctrines as these having been scattered far and wide, so great a license of thought and action having sprung up on all sides, it is no matter for surprise that men of the lowest class, weary of their wretched home or workshop, are eager to attack the homes and fortunes of the rich; it is no matter for surprise that already there exists no sense of security either in public or private life, and that the human race should have advanced to the very verge of final dissolution.
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For, indeed, although the socialists, stealing the very Gospel itself with a view to deceive more easily the unwary, have been accustomed to distort it so as to suit their own purposes, nevertheless so great is the difference between their depraved teachings and the most pure doctrine of Christ that none greater could exist: "for what participation hath justice with injustice or what fellowship hath light with darkness?"[7] Their habit, as we have intimated, is always to maintain that nature has made all men equal, and that, therefore, neither honor nor respect is due to majesty, nor obedience to laws, unless, perhaps, to those sanctioned by their own good pleasure.
Leo XIII, Quod Apostolici Muneris (On Socialism), 1878
So this should not be any kind of a surprise to anybody. It is not new. Nor is it particularly imaginative.
It is simply a continuation of the strategy first put in place by the first socialist president.
ping to #16 (sorry, should have pinged you there)
Maybe the GOP can find a Catholic candidate to run, then see how fast the Democrat anti-Catholic knives come out.
We need to have you run the field operation for Catholics against Obama!
Obortion O will not get “Catholic” votes. He will get some CINO votes, but I think they are falling off his train too.
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