Posted on 11/17/2011 11:39:34 PM PST by expat1000
“I believe the government should legalize polygamy because it is lawful in Islam. It would enable all the wives to have the same legal status." -- Muslima in an Islamic polygamous marriage
…nearly 70 percent said they believe that the U.S. should legalize polygamy…42 percent of those surveyed said they were either in, or knew others in polygamous marriages within the local Muslim community. Thirty nine percent said they would engage in a polygamous marriage if it were legal in the United States.
Islamic supremacism on the march in America. Just as the Muslim Brotherhood groups in the US, like Hamas-linked CAIR, exploited the the black experience in America to impose Islam on the secular marketplace by playing the civil rights card. They are now using the "gay marriage" narrative to legalize multiple wives under the sharia. Read it all.
I have written on Muslim polygamy in the US here. And here: 100,000 US Muslims engage in polygamy.
What's next? Child brides? That is sanctioned under the sharia. That's an "alternative lifestyle" sanctioned by Islam and "religious freedom under the Constitution." Honor killings? Clitorectomies? All sanctioned under the sharia, and as Ground Zero mosque Imam Rauf reminded us in his book, you cannot cherry-pick the sharia. It's all or .........
In his own book from 2000, "Islam: A Sacred Law," he wrote this on p. 58: "And since a Shari'ah is understood as a law with God at its center, it is not possible in principle to limit the Shari'ah to some aspects of human life and leave out others."
Survey: 70% of Muslims say U.S. should legalize polygamy MuslimLink.com via creeping As Legal Marriage Is Redefined, Some Muslim Call for Decriminalizing Polygamy
The legalization of gay marriage in six states and the continued efforts toward legalizing it in the rest of the country has opened the flood gates that have, for hundreds of years defined legal marriage in the United States as the union between one man and one woman.
As more proponents of gay marriage push bills through Congress and rally votes that support marriage as a constitutional right for all citizens regardless of sexual orientation another group that remains decidedly outside the legal confines of marriage is slowly entering the limelight.
Over 130 years ago a decision was made that criminalized the practice of polygamy in the United States.
Despite the redefinition of legal marriage to include homosexual couples, the country still grapples at the idea of polygamy, a commonly misunderstood primarily religiously based practice.
With an estimated 50,000 to 100,000 people living in polygamous situations in the U.S. today, few have seen their actions reprimanded in court. This is likely because many live in secrecy out of fear that exposure of their practices will result in loss of jobs, break apart their families, or land them in jail. However, even in cases where polygamy is known, few states move to actually prosecute the individuals involved.
While some choose to quietly live their lives as they please, married legally only to one woman but to others only through religious ceremonies, there are murmurs among the polygamist community as the country moves toward the legalization of gay marriage.
Just as the gay community has fought for equal treatment under the law, polygamists argue the same. As citizens of the United States, they argue, they should have the right to legally marry whoever they please, or however many they please.
In the same regard that the gay community faced stark opposition from religious organizations that diligently fought, and continue to fight the idea of gay marriage on religious grounds, polygamists communities face similar religious stigmas.
While the U.S. Constitution boasts a separation of church and state, which ultimately helped the gay community overcome the opposition, it also guarantees the free exercise of religion which has somewhat ironically been the biggest obstacle for the polygamist community.
Because polygamy is considered a derivative of certain religious beliefs it would logically seem as though the practice of polygamy would then be protected under constitutional law. However, this is not the case, and has not been since Reynolds vs. United States in 1978 in which the court refused to recognize polygamy as a legitimate religious practice. Instead, it was deemed it as “almost exclusively a feature of the life of Asiatic and African people.” Later decisions showed no progress in accepting polygamy as a legitimate religious practice despite its longstanding historic presence in Christianity, Judaism and Islam. Instead the court declared it to be “contrary to the spirit of Christianity and of the civilization which Christianity has produced in the Western World,” equating it to a type of barbarism.
Many argue that polygamy is an exception to the free exercise of religion because known cases of polygamous marriages of young girls. This cast a shadow on the practice and many ignorantly equated it with pedophilia. Recent attacks on the Prophet Muhammad also equated his marriage to Aisha, who was nine at the time, as an act of pedophilia. In cases where religious practices are deemed harmful to individuals or to the public, the free exercise of religion no longer applies.
While Islam itself does not condone acts of homosexuality and though the mainstream Muslim community remains largely uninvolved with polygamy in the United States, there are a minority who still engage in the practice though largely in secrecy for fear of retribution. While some masajids require legal proof of marriage prior to granting an Islamic marriage, some Imams’ like Baltimore city’s Hassan Amin believe polygamy to be a god-given right that cannot be denied to those who are willing and able despite the potential legal ramifications.
“I don’t have any problem with that because it’s Deen. I’m doing it for religion,” said Amin who admits to performing polygamous marriages.
“Richard II (1367-1400), King of England, married his second wife, Isabella of Valois (1389-1409) a few days before her 7th birthday. They spent time together but there is no record of consummation.”
H. Eugene Lehman writes of Isabella of Valois in his book Lives of England’s Reigning and Consort Queens:
‘His new child-bride was treated as an adopted daughter, in which the consummation of marriage was never contemplated. The tender and mutual relationship that developed between Richard and Isabella was entirely that of a deeply affectionate father and daughter, or of a doting uncle for his niece.’
Why would we accept dictates from a system that is waging war against America??
islam is a political/social/religious cult with the goal of destroying western civilization.
Polygamy was outlawed when Utah became a state - the only time that Congress passed a law in violation of freedom of religion and the Supreme Court upheld it.
If polygamy were to be reintroduced, the Mormons would sue, all those in jail for polygamy would be freed and they could sue and, guess what, we pay for it.
Yeah, me too. I followed the article a few links deep and then lost interest. I'm sure there's a poll behind it somewhere.
Just guessing, which is that it was a political marriage to consolidate an alliance between countries or factions.
No thank you one wife is enough.
Will they include that the husband can only beat his wife with a stick no bigger in diameter than his thumb?
Pedophilia is lawful under Islam
Slavery is legal under Islam
Wife beating is lawful under Islam
Honor killing is lawful under Islam
Should I go on?
I clicked through a number of links, but the closest I could find was:
"This story, and survey results, from the Muslim Brotherhood Linked newspaper out of Maryland"
In related news, 70% of American Christians would like to impose Christian laws in the Middle East. I know many of the simple-minded here will accuse me of "defending terrorists", but is this study really a big surprise?
Although I don't agree with polygamy, it would be a step up from the social arrangement we now have. If a man desires to have multiple wives (all consenting adults) and financially supports all of his children, what's the problem? Currently, an unwed man can father multiple children, not pay a single dime for their support and leave the taxpayers to pick up the tab with welfare programs. Which system infringes on my fundamental right to property (the money I earn)?
If conservatives are ever going to win the culture war, we need to look at the issues rationally and be willing to defend the rights of those we may disagree with - as long as they do not wish harm upon us (as most Muslims do). Am I advocating Sharia law? Absolutely not, but we certainly need to take a closer look at how our government regulates personal relationships between adults, while supposedly small-government "conservatives" remain silent.
Spot on.
some women would consider it a good deal to be part of a harem and not have to service Abdullah every night
70% of American liberals agree.
> “I believe the government should legalize polygamy because it is lawful in Islam. It would enable all the wives to have the same legal status.” — Muslima in an Islamic polygamous marriage
But this is America, Haji, it ain’t Muzloidland. If you don’t like our laws and system then go back to Muzloidland where you can be happy wiping your butt with sand and sleeping with you camels and goats.
perhaps because Uncle Richard preferred men
An unidentified poll offered by a fundamentalist Muslim website says 70% of Muslims want to impose Sharia law? Why should anyone be skeptical about the accuracy of something like that?
They don’t belong here.
why would ANY sane man want two wives???
(donning asbestos suit now .....)
Realistically they should be called muzzies in America because they are only nominally American.
You could very well end up killing yourself, as they would constantly bicker.
Whatever sounds good on paper doesn’t always turn out good in reality.
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