Posted on 10/02/2011 2:11:40 PM PDT by Bokababe
.....I don't trust Obama with determining what protections I should be allowed as a citizen any more than I trust him with our general defense, the economy, health care, job growth - or anything else.
The usual justification for such abuse of the rule of law is that the post-9/11 period demands a different code of conduct to ensure people's safety. But politicians can always find excuses for why they should be allowed to disobey the Constitution.....
Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2011/10/02/2011-10-02_an_unconstitutional_killing.html#ixzz1Zeydd8Ny
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Yes. They are fed up as well.
I have been chipping at this SOB Obama since before the election and have placed myself in great peril by being vocal, but I have noticed the turning of the tide.
Obama will be gone.
What we need now are folks who can diffuse the timebomb that he has managed to plant.
I have been telling folks for what seems like an eternity that there is a reason all his legislation kicks in on 2014.
FUBO!
That's a few years from now. Perhaps “things” will come out that he wasn't really qualified to be POTUS and therefore, everything he has written into law will be terminated as unlawful and unconstitutional.
Heck, maybe we'll even see a “treasonous unlawful occupier” on trial and hung on national tv.....just to warn anyone else trying to pull such a stunt! My dreams go far beyond reality; however, in this crazy world we live in, who the heck knows???
Bottom line....we’re in a heap of sh!t. The last thing I want to do is fight against those who are are on my side, and I theirs.
Who knows what the future holds for us. Perhaps you and I will come face to face one day and have to guard each others backs.
Serious question.....Do you think God will give us a sign as to who is for and who is against?
NOBODY follows a train of thought to insane consistency like a libertarian psycho. “Gun control is bad, so convicted murderers should be able to possess sub machineguns in prison.” That’s a libertarian for you.
Agreed. What all these self proclaimed constitutional experts, including those on this thread gnashing their teeth and wringing their hands, fail to realize, AlAwaiki gave up his citizenship, thus his rights, the second he left this country and gave allegiance to AlQueda, no different than renouncing one’s citizenship. In this case de facto renunciation equates to de jure. As much as it pains me, Obama was right to uphold Bush’s findings relating to combatants. Makes him an even bigger hypocrite but then nothing new on that front.
You want to be the first TEA Partier to see if Odumbo WON’T allow US to be murdered by his goons? You’re applauding the precedent he just set. So al Ahole was a real terrorist. Unless he renounced his citizenship, he was entitled to our Constitutional protections. Being killed in combat... I’m fine with that: he’s taken up arms against us. Assassinating him? No. Put him in front of a military court, cool, his basic rights are protected.
Killing him by remote control is HORRIBLE precedent; it FLINGS the door open to using it on ANYONE designated as a terrorist by Obummer. Dr. Paul is absolutely correct on this. It’s a can of worms we did NOT NEED opened.
...Or TOOTH, in some cases... Problem is, Obummer doesn’t seem to much care about our arms. I really don’t think he has the capacity to imagine the consequences of his actions. He’s some sort of demi-god in his own mind, which renders him totally out of control and unpredictable by ANY RATIONAL standard. If he’s allowed to get away with assassinating such an ahole, who’s next? And what would be the consequence to the nation?
The a-hole in question was a traitor who was actively conducting war against our armed forces. He got what he deserved.
In the Constitution for the United States, there is a specific definition of treason and a specific procedure for determining guilt. A presidential “determination” does NOT fill that bill. It only opens the door for such determinations against US. Is that what you want?
Apparently Dr. Paul DOES know the Constitution, at least better than YOU seem to... just sayin’...
Dr. NO brains... NO libertarian I ever met has EVER said that convicted criminals should have access to firearms during their incarceration. Ever. You need to watch what you’re smoking. What HAS been said is that when the criminal’s penalty is paid, his rights, including the right to own firearms, should be restored. His sentence should be served in full and, if he’s dangerous, there should be no plea bargains and NO PAROLE.
Jim, according to Odumbo, YOU AND I are traitors. Now Odumbo or a successor has precedent that being on a presidential LIST makes it OK to kill someone. THAT is what he’s done for us and THAT IS DEAD WRONG. Period. I won’t mourn al Ahole, but I DO mourn the additional damage done to our Constitution by Obummer and company, not to mention the door left open for killing the next unpopular individual who comes into Obummer’s sights.
Besides, the guy was killed in Yemen, ostensibly one of our “friends,” or at least not a country we’re at war with. He was NOT on a battlefield where such killing would make sense. It was unlawful murder, and we should most surely NOT be cheering it on.
The world is the terrorist’s battlefield. You gone soft in your old age?
“I know that you don’t like Ron Paul and are pretty iffy about most libertarians, but we are the idiots who throw ourselves on political grenades defending the Constitution, even when it is unpopular, so that the rest of us don’t have to throw ourselves on real ones.”
Actually, you are the idiots making it more possible for mass murderers who openly declare war on the US to kill my family in the largest numbers possible - so Obama doesn’t have to.
Wow, didn’t realize that your name was “Jim Robinson”.
Maybe you think you are Jim Robinson and you own this forum?
Yeah, well I just met 10,000 of ‘em and they ALL said that. Even signed a pledge. I’ll mail it to you.
Hardly, but then again I'm not the one answering posts addressed to him -- you are.
If you feel so strongly different about your post, then you should have clicked the "Private Reply" option.
But your whine is especially weak considering you included everyone in your rather idiotic statement to Jim:
I know that you dont like Ron Paul and are pretty iffy about most libertarians, but we are the idiots who throw ourselves on political grenades defending the Constitution, even when it is unpopular, so that the rest of us dont have to throw ourselves on real ones.
Playing(?) stupid about the posting habits on this forum doesn't enhance your image from the notable lack of an on-topic-response to my original reply to you.
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