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A Palin Victory Doesn't Depend on a Date
Conservatives4Palin ^

Posted on 10/02/2011 1:17:04 PM PDT by Amerisrael

A Palin victory will depend on the decisions the voters will make based upon her record in Alaska and the solutions she presents to the problems currently plaguing this country.

Once a primary is running full force, most voters don’t remember or give the slightest hoot as to which candidate had jumped in a full year ahead of the game and which candidate is only in the race a half a year or three quarters of a year. Votes based on such calculations are petty, foolish, and therefore probably non-existent. When questioned at exit polls, voters usually point to a particular position on policy which they feel strongly about, or an approach to a current problem and which they feel their candidate has got it right.

Yes, in 2008 many voted for Obama mainly to assuage their conscience, feel righteous, and join those creating history. But by and large, especially in difficult times, voters vote for a candidate because of their confidence in him or her to lead the country and to deal with the issues.

Additionally, Obama’s grandiose though empty promises were also the deciding factor for many of those who voted for him and were swept up, up, up and away in his euphoric rhetoric only to have since landed back to reality with a painful thud. In 2012, promises will therefore not be enough. Candidates are and will continue to be requested to provide proof to their claims and promises via their records and undergo careful scrutiny and questioning about specifics in their past.

Those that have repeatedly attempted to nail Palin down to a date at which she must declare her candidacy or the games is over, are therefore either ignorant of the facts or purposely attempting to mislead the people. For what difference does it now make to anyone that Romney has announced his candidacy on the specific date he chose to do so or that Perry’s announcement came after Romney’s?

Since these are the same individuals who mock the millions of her supporters as idiotic and foolish for allowing themselves to be strung along and taken for a ride, it appears to be the latter. For her supporters are comprised of a diverse group of Americans who are united in that they actually aren’t afraid to think for themselves and haven’t allowed the pundits to decide for them who they must support and vote for. They falsely portray the vast majority of her supporters as cultists, worshipers, and the like, totally ignoring the incredible amounts of knowledge these supporters know about her record, which is why they are ready to do all they can to see her win this nomination. It’s not about the person itself, but about the ideology, record, and achievements behind her, and the clear and bold solutions she constantly presents to ensure success in the future, which no other candidate comes close to her heels.

It’s pretty comical to watch how many who’ve gone utterly berserk over the fact that Palin hasn’t yet announced her candidacy despite her having said last week that there won’t be any announcement before the end of September, are the very same people who’ve had no problem when other candidates such as Perry has retracted his promise from the 2010 campaign not to run for the presidency. If it’s perfectly understandable that times have changed in the last year and a half which thus caused him to have a change of mind, how is that so different from pushing off a decision another couple of days or weeks due to political shifting? This isn’t a reversal on policy such as Perry on Gardasil and Romney on just about everything. The actual timing of the announcement, although it may have an effect on the style and other aspects of her campaign, won’t be of any serious significance to the voters in the weeks and months afterwards.

Ultimately, a decision will be made and we will all be privy to it. Those who’ve mocked and derided her for stringing along her supporters while not planning to run and seeking only publicity and attention will probably be proven wrong, and left to scramble with something somewhat comprehensible in response, while those who’ve had to deal with the scorn and endless name-calling will watch in amusement. For those who laugh last, laugh best.


TOPICS: Government; Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous; Politics
KEYWORDS: campaign; electon; notrunning; palin; palin2012; primary
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To: sickoflibs
You may not be the dumbest and most ridiculous poster on FR, but you're getting close.

Do you ever say anything that makes sense? Do you even have a life?

Congrats ahead of time......

61 posted on 10/02/2011 8:19:07 PM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: Amerisrael

Another thing that makes me very mad is that Sarah Palin has NEVER said she was going to run for president and she has not given any indication that she would be announcing as a candidate.


62 posted on 10/02/2011 8:20:53 PM PDT by famousdayandyear
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To: Lakeshark
RE :"You may not be the dumbest...."

Have you ever thought up with a new line to use since you left the third grade?? Jeeze.

63 posted on 10/02/2011 8:23:44 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Over-taxed means 'paying too much in taxes', not zero taxes)
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To: sickoflibs
Have you realized yet what I said is true?

You really need to get a life, I suggest tomorrow you should look for one.

Being miserable and petty is no way to live your life.

64 posted on 10/02/2011 8:25:27 PM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: indylindy
RE:"The most unconventional evah!"

Wait till they tell us that fooling us all into thinking she would run when she wasn't was a brilliant 'unconventional' strategy. It's coming, that C4P post Thursday came close.

65 posted on 10/02/2011 8:27:01 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Over-taxed means 'paying too much in taxes', not zero taxes)
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To: indylindy
RE:"The most unconventional evah!"

Wait till they tell us that fooling us all into thinking she would run when she wasn't was a brilliant 'unconventional' strategy. It's coming, that C4P post Thursday came close.

66 posted on 10/02/2011 8:27:08 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Over-taxed means 'paying too much in taxes', not zero taxes)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum; dawn53; Artcore

Mittens gets Utah no matter who is in the race.

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Yep. Just like last time. Artcore, what makes you think that the same won’t happen again?

Utah is the land of identity politics and, in this case, his Mormonism will win again. There is a very strong undercurrent of LDS trusting other LDS over ‘gentiles’ (all non-Mormons including Jews) and it showed strongly with Mitt.

2008 Utah Primary results Mitt Romney 264,956 89.5%


67 posted on 10/02/2011 8:30:02 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see".)
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To: Lakeshark
RE :”Being miserable and petty is no way to live your life.

If you realize that then why don't you go into therapy? There is no other explanation for your aggressive behavior the last two years, glad you see it sort of...

68 posted on 10/02/2011 8:30:57 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Over-taxed means 'paying too much in taxes', not zero taxes)
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To: sickoflibs

Another Palin caucus thread? Why don’t they just move these over to the Religion forum?


69 posted on 10/02/2011 8:31:58 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see".)
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To: sickoflibs
Hey, you're the one who hates everything and has no life, just check your own posting record (heck check your lost life, that might be better) if you want to be sure I'm right.

Taunting the few like you is an occasional guilty pleasure, I must admit.........

70 posted on 10/02/2011 8:35:24 PM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: reaganaut; mrreaganaut; indylindy
RE :”Another Palin caucus thread? Why don’t they just move these over to the Religion forum?

BTW, I loved it when MrR used that line, I laughed then.

Apparently Todd did not announce as expected today/tonight
TODD PALIN will talk to Stephen Bannon THIS SUNDAY (10/2/11) on KABC (6 pm CA time) conservatives4palin.com ^ | Srptember 29, 2011 | Ian Lazaran (C4P)

71 posted on 10/02/2011 8:39:22 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Over-taxed means 'paying too much in taxes', not zero taxes)
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To: Amerisrael

If she runs, it will be as a 3rd party candidate.


72 posted on 10/02/2011 8:39:29 PM PDT by joesbucks
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To: Lakeshark
RE :"Taunting the few like you is an occasional guilty pleasure, I must admit........."

Yes, it has become clear now.

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WAAAAH, Sickoflibs is ignoring my canned 3rd grade insults. That is not fair!

73 posted on 10/02/2011 8:45:30 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Over-taxed means 'paying too much in taxes', not zero taxes)
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To: sickoflibs
Ignoring them?

You're positively being slaughtered by paying attention to them. Just keep replying, you're doing great at showing your miserable petty life off to everyone......

74 posted on 10/02/2011 8:49:13 PM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: trumandogz
“Because Palin will win - even if she doesn’t run. She won’t even have to be sworn in. She’ll be “miracled” into office. “

Exactly, Sarah could even win the presidency as a write-in candidate announcing as late as a week before the 2012 election.


Nah, it'll just seem that way, but really, she can wait until after the 2012 elections, and if she then decides to run, she'll be "miracled" into office after the fact! It'll be like deja vu all over again!


75 posted on 10/02/2011 8:51:09 PM PDT by Oceander (abo 2012 - anyone but obama in 2012)
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To: sickoflibs; mrreaganaut

I forgot MrR said the same thing the other night. I’m out of town atm, but we have discussed it enough lately so that is probably where I got the idea. LOL.


76 posted on 10/02/2011 9:04:51 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see".)
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To: Lakeshark

Excuse me and beg my pardon a thousand and one times for the rude interruption of your self indulgent obvious joy of downgrading sickoflibs but I just looked at your post history and didn’t make it nor care to waste time going further-half down the page and you are what you accuse of.You seem like a bitter,mean constipated person.And watch the ‘you have no life’ comebacks some people are handicapped or shut ins or on medical leave.I thought you were a kind SP lover.I am so shocked by your insensitivity!

You are so bitter you sound like a mean constipated troll.Now pardon the rude interruption carry on it is your turn to post a crybaby picture to your favorite poster.A good line maybe you should try next is yo mama is so fat...hit em with yo mama jokes that’ll show him spot on and bloody fast aye chap? Oh and Prep H and Correctol can be your friend.


77 posted on 10/02/2011 9:26:00 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: indylindy

LOL!


78 posted on 10/02/2011 9:27:55 PM PDT by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: reaganaut
“Utah is the land of identity politics and, in this case, his Mormonism will win again. There is a very strong undercurrent of LDS trusting other LDS over ‘gentiles’ (all non-Mormons including Jews) and it showed strongly with Mitt.”
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Just to remind you; the GOP primary field included McCain, Romney, Huckabee and Paul.

Are you seriously going to sit here and tell us that McCain, Huckabee, or Paul would've been a better choice than Romney (at least at the time)? McCain is a backstabbing RINO, Huckabee had a little Amnesty problem, and Paul is just plain nuts.

Hey I don't mind you bringing me statistics to back up your assertions, but it would be helpful if you'd cite more than just the State of Utah where Mittens got the majority of the vote. Consider the following examples of some States and Romney's placings in the GOP Primary:

Michigan = 1st
Alaska = 1st
Minnesota = 1st
Montana = 1st
Mass = 1st
Maine = 1st
Florida = 2nd
Arizona = 2nd
Illinois = 2nd

If you'd like, I could also give you the percentages, but you get the point. I'm no Romney fan, and I'm also not a member of the LDS faith, but your assertion that Utah practices identity politics is just tad unfair...don't you think? Using your logic, Michigan, Maine, Montana and the other states where Mittens placed first must also practice identity politics...right?

Funny, but the last time I checked, Michigan didn't have a very heavy influence of Mormons. Hmmm, come to think of it, my home state does have a heavy concentration of Catholics. Do they also practice identity politics?

Sounds like your biggest problem is the LDS faith...not Romney.

79 posted on 10/02/2011 9:30:32 PM PDT by Artcore
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To: Artcore

Go ahead, give percentages, NONE of them are CLOSE to the 89+% Mitt got in Utah. None.

I lived in Utah for several years, I know the politics there and I know the LDS will vote for LDS over a gentile anytime.

I have a problem with Mitt, I understand Mormonism and I pity those trapped in that cult. However, that doesn’t change the facts as to WHY Mittens won Utah by such a LARGE margin.

Mitt is Obama just ‘white and delight-some’ (to use an LDS phrase). He wasn’t the most conservative running at the time and he isn’t now.

Typical bringing in the assumption that Catholics are the same as Mormons. They aren’t and they don’t practice identity politics the way the LDS do. Most Christians don’t. LDS however, are a different story.

I remember when DeeDee Corradini became Mayor of SLC, most LDS I knew cried because SLC was being taken over by the ‘gentiles’ and how dare they vote for a (gasp) Catholic (member of the whore of babylon) for mayor.


80 posted on 10/02/2011 9:43:52 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-Mormon, now Christian "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see".)
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