"Terror reigns when madness wears the crown."
Or, in this case, not madness, but despotism...
Posted on 09/07/2011 4:30:22 PM PDT by PJ-Comix
I just got off the blower with Brent R. Weil [above] 0f Kightlinger and Gray, LLP. The Evansville, Indiana lawyer represents the [as yet unnamed] gun store that sold firearms to ATF-enabled straw purchasers. “The ATF told my client to let the sales go through,” Mr. Weil told TTAG. “He later told me that the guns went to Chicago gangs.” In one case, a straw purchaser failed to pass the FBI’s NICS [National Instant Check System] background check . . .
The dealer called an ATF agent in the parking lot; the agent told the dealer to let the sale go through. The ATF arrested the so-called straw purchaser after he walked out the door. In every other instance, however, the ATF did not apprehend the buyers immediately after purchase.
In one case, a buyer and his associate left the store and smashed their vehicle into a police car on their way out. (Seriously.) The driver was charged with the traffic incident, but allowed to keep the guns and proceed. Whether or not the ATF kept tabs on the guns after that, or if guns were used in subsequent crimes, is unknown.
Mr. Weil also threw some cold water on the theory that Mexican cartel members in Indiana purchased the guns with the ATF’s blessing as part of an anti-Los Zetas quid pro quo. “The buyers were black and caucasian,” Weil said. Also, the gun store in question initiated the contact with the ATF.
The new information doesn’t rule out the possibility that the Indiana gun store “sting” involved criminals affiliated with the Sinaloa or La Familia cartels (whom the ATF armed during Operation Fast and Furious). But that possibility seems a whole lot less likely.
Nonetheless, the Indiana intel reveals that the ATF was allowing known criminals to purchase firearms. The crucial question: did they lose track of the guns accidentally on purpose, as they did during Operation Fast and Furious?
And if the guns purchased in Evansville ended up in The Windy City, the ATF’s heir apparent—Chi-town Bureau Chief Andrew Traver—must have known about the policy. What did Andy know and when did he know it?
As Ralph points out below, we’re still left wondering about the scope, scale and final destination of all ATF-enabled firearms. How many vicious thugs bought firearms with the ATF’s help? How many of those were recovered and/or recovered from crime scenes?
Meanwhile, rumors are swirling that the Carson City killer used an ATF-enabled AK-47 during his murderous rampage. The attacker, Eduardo Sencion, was Mexican-born (with an American passport) with no criminal record.
There’s no firm evidence establishing linking Sencion with the ATF. The fact that anyone would even think of that possibility reveals the corrosive effect of the ATF on the public’s respect for the federal government and the primacy of the rule of law. It’s yet another reason to deep-six the ATF—after we find out what they’ve been doing with our tax money.
The data were being generated to justify the graphic, IOW, to justify more legal infringements on our Second Amendment Rights, and I would be surprised if they missed making sure any of their graphical representations had traceable firearms in quantity.
This is Obama's private army being armed, make no mistake. God only knows how much of our tax money went to outfit these people while we were attributing over-the-top ammo sales to Conservatives and other preppers.
Should read:
I am beginning to get the feeling that there is some plata changing hands at the BATF. Just a feeling, nothing specific.
Please be serious.
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, Over.
I believe it is a lot more than usual. :(
All the shootings very recently in NYC make me wonder.
I am sure that “blood in the streets” has been the goal of this administration since the day of the election.
Remember mrs. Thug in her commie/anarchy dress, and the whole family wore only black and red.
” ATF Enabled Guns Went to Chicago Gangs”
Well, there’s a freakin’ surprise. Not.
Obama has a house two blocks from Farrakhan’s fortress Chicago compound. Screwy Louie’s is the VERY first place I’d look.
Unsurprising because the country is essentially being run by a Chicago gang...
Hope & change? Change indeed, tsk tsk tslk...not every day that DOJ people walk into IHOP and murder 4 uniformed military men, nope.
What was the muzzie’s quote, “I envision a domestic security organization just as powerful and well-funded as our military” ....?
Are we seeing the beginning of THAT?
What a shameful mess.
Thanks a bunch, PJ!
“...I’m beginning to think they should rename this to “Operation Create Chaos.” It is becoming more clear that this was an attempt to sabotage the rights of Americans to own and possess firearms...”
Ding Ding Ding. With enough chaos, the fed can come in and “protect the children.” Scary times.
Keep yer powder dry.
This is truly astonishing. When does this become IMPEACHABLE?!?! We had Clinton impeached for lying under oath in regards to an affair with a fat intern! Here, we are talking about thousands of weapons being sent to Chicago gangs, Mexican cartels, and God only knows who else.
I am trying to connect all the dots, but it feels like this is only the beginning, that this is going to get worse, and once we start getting to the real meat of this administration, we are going to find that we have had the devil behind the wheel. We all know the administration is filled with socialists, Marxists, communists, and radicals of all other forms. That is obvious. But what I don’t believe is that any of us have any idea how truly dangerous and evil they are.
I’m reminded of Obama’s “civilian army” comments... He did not say how that goal would be achieved or who would be “serving.”
This admin had come to divide, conquer, and destroy. Stay together, Freepers! We are all going to need each other in a serious way soon.
You are one of the most imaginative jaded posters I’ve seen. Adolph was indolent also.
Lots of great ammo here unless the right screws the pooch an let’s the left off the hook.
Keep up the heat on your congress critters folks.
The key man is the atf chief cook an bottle washer they are trying to reassign to bum fook Egypt an hide. He better be very aware an scared as the left will arkancide his ass on a Tuesday an the right will give him amnesty for his testimony.
.... Write to polidiots, presstitutes an forums , call an visit those you can. Get loud an stay loud an angry on this issue....
My opinion.
"Terror reigns when madness wears the crown."
Or, in this case, not madness, but despotism...
Exactly, that whiny little punk and his media supporters have been all over the TV/radio pleading for “national restrictions.” Disgusting.
Holder Denies Prior Knowledge of ‘Fast and Furious’
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