Posted on 08/16/2011 9:42:18 PM PDT by grey_whiskers
This is a brief discussion of some of the controversies brought up in conjunction with the candidacy of Gov. Rick Perry, together with observations on polling data and his base of support.
Gardasil
Gardasil is a drug from Merck & Co. developed as a vaccine for certain types of cervical cancer, which was only effective if administered before exposure to certain STDs. Those who attack Perry point out that Perry issued an executive order in February 2007 mandating that all Texas girls be vaccinated with Gardasil before admission to the sixth grade. His chief-of-staff from 2002-2004 had become a lobbyist for Merck; Merck also donated $6,000 to Perry’s re-election campaign.
Perry’s defenders counter with two points: first, that the Executive Order was not truly mandatory, as there was an opt-out clause for parents; and second, that Perry had received $24 million that year for his re-election campaign, so that $6,000 was merely a drop in the bucket.
But all of this seems to me to miss the main point. With all of the furor over Obamacare and mandatory payments, why is it a good thing to order mandatory vaccines for something which is picked up through *voluntary* behaviour? If we are interested in conservatism, and part of conservatism is sexual morality, why was Perry implicitly “throwing in the towel” by ordering a mandatory vaccine for STDs, with only an opt-out? Doesn’t this undermine the moral authority of the parents? This sounds more like a Romney-type stunt than the behaviour of a true conservative!
Trans-Texas Corridor
This was supposed to be a superhighway going from the Texas border to Oklahoma, with branches running all over the state, at a cost of $175 billion dollars. It was introduced by Governor Rick Perry in 2001. It would have set up multiple-lane highways (up to almost a quarter of a mile wide!) for six car lanes, 4 truck lanes, and two tracks each for various rail (high-speed rail, commuter rail, and freight rail), together with rights-of-way for underground cable and utility lines.
The road would be financed and operated by Cintra, a Spanish firm, which would not *own* the highway, but collect toll revenue.
Civil libertarians, concerned over misuse of eminent domain, were up in arms. In addition, other people were concerned over what would have amounted to “double taxation” -- having to pay tolls for the TTC, and yet having to pay gasoline taxes for state roads.
And of course, one of the “selling points” of the project was that it was needed to accomodate increased MEXICAN truck traffic following passage of NAFTA.
Those who support Perry are very proud of pointing out that the TTC is dead, and that even references to it have been removed from State Law. However, the Houston Chronicle pointed out in a 2009 article that the state
“...will move forward with a serious of individual project that had been considered part of the Trans-Texas Corridor plan...[the] renewed effort now will operate under the name ‘Innovative Connectivity in Texas’ to usher in a new method of operation.”
This doesn’t sound like Perry and the backers of the TTC got the message. Kind of like Boehner and his supposed $100 billion in cuts at the beginning of 2011...
And come to think of it, what kind of a conservative goes around pushing transportation infrastructure jobs as a keynote effort? Especially when it includes tolls going to a foreign company instead of an American company? Something does not compute, here, if he’s talking about restoring the American economy. Aren’t we sending enough money overseas for oil, without adding tolls?
And, what’s with the, *ahem*, high-speed rail? Sounds awfully “green” to me. Thomas Friedman would no doubt approve Perry’s acting like China. And speaking of green jobs...
Perry ran Al Gore’s campaign in Texas in 1988
While some people claim that Gore was much more centrist back then (he opposed federal funding for abortion, and agreed on funding of the Nicaraguan Contras, for example), he was still a moonbat when it came Global Warming: according to The Guardian(U.K.) he held congressional hearings on Climate Change back in 1976 and began writing a book on environmental conservation in 1988.
Those who defend Perry claim that it was a long time ago, and that people are allowed to change their minds. But think back to 1988. Who was finishing as President back then? Oh, *that’s* right. Ronald Reagan. What a perfect time to back a Democrat, if you’re *really* conservative.
And, by the way, Perry endorsed Rudy Guiliani for President in 2008. Does anyone remember what Free Republic did to Guiliani supporters? Do the words "bug-zapper" mean anything to you? Colour me unbelieving.
Perry supports the Dream Act
This allows illegal aliens to pay in-state tuition at college provided that they have lived in Texas for three years and graduated from high school -- and they apply for citizenship.
While this *sounds* good at first blush, it is really amnesty light for young illegals: and once they are citizens, they will likely try to bring their extended family to live with them, with predictable long-term results (“Heartless, racist Republicans want to split up families.”) Trying to cut down on the number of illegal immigrants by rewarding their long-standing residence is like trying to scare ants away from a picnic by leaving a trail of crumbs on the ground.
Perry is as tough as marshmallows on illegal immigration
In addition to the Trans Texas Corridor and the Dream Act, Rick Perry has opposed the idea that Texas should adopt Arizona’s immigration law, since he does not want law enforcement to be REQUIRED to determine immigration status. He wants it to be voluntary. In addition, despite all of the noise about Perry being against Sanctuary Cities, and with the issue being introduced in a special session, somehow it managed to not get passed. Liberal blogger brainsandeggs mentions some of the gyrations the bill went through before failing:
”Recall also that during the regular session, the “sanctuary cities” legislation was approved by the House on a 100-to-47 party-line vote, only to be blocked by Democrats in the Senate on a 12-to-19 party-line vote. But during the special session, essentially the same legislation was approved by the Senate on a 19-to-12 party-line vote (the two-thirds rule was not in force during the special session) — only to fail to make it out of the House State Affairs committee, the same committee which in early May had heartily endorsed it on a 9-to-3 party-line vote.”
So it looks like Perry gets to have his Taco and eat it too: he can posture about being against sanctuary cities, while in the real world, a bill abolishing sanctuary cities fails with the Governor’s backing.
Creative incompetence.
Incidentally, this is an excerpt from a speech which Perry gave in 2001. Tell me if this sounds like someone who is tough on illegal immigration, or someone who will continue pandering to illegals in the hope of votes to come, as quoted in The Washington Post:
"We don’t care where you come from, but where you are going, and we are going to do everything we can to help you get there. And that vision must include the children of undocumented workers. The doors of higher education must be open to them. The message is simple: educacion es el futuro, y si se puede [education is the future, and yes, we can]"
Soft on Islam
Everyone by now has gotten tired of hearing the mantra enforced from on high that Islam is a "Religion of Peace" -- with some going so far as to mock the phrase by calling it a "Religion of Pieces" (a macabre reference to suicide bombers and beheadings favored by jihadists).
And Rick Perry seems to be continuing in the same vein.
Here's a speech of Perry's from 2008.
In which he quotes the Koran, knowingly:
"The Quran says: Truly those who believe, and those who are Jews, and Christians, and Sabeans – whoever believes in God and the Last Day and is virtuous – surely their reward is with their Lord, and no fear shall come upon them, neither shall they grieve.”"
Gee, why does this make the hair on the back of my neck stand up? Haven't we had enough of Ramadan Greetings and the Muslim call to prayer with Barack Hussein Obama?
What is ironic is that it was yet another Texan, George W. Bush, who seemed to push for the "ROP" meme. Too bad this idiocy didn't get squelched in time to stop Maj. Hassan at Fort Hood.
For more on Perry and Islamicists, see here.
With that list completed, it is time to move on to political metaphysics -- observations which do not fit neatly in one category or another of the above, but help place these factors into focus, or interpret the landscape in the early days after Perry’s declaration.
Changes in polling data
Rasmussen now shows him at 29%, with Romney at 18% ,Bachmann at 13%, Ron Paul at 9%, Cain at 6% and Gingrich at 5% -- 72 hours after declaring.
Several important points here.
What was Perry’s popularity in polls before he declared?
Rasmussen performed a telephone survey of likely Iowa caucus participants on August 8, less than a week before his announcement. Perry got 12% compared to Bachmann’s 22% and Romney’s 21%, Ron Paul’s 16%, and Tim Pawlenty’s 11%.
And yet, no breathless specials, no major speeches during that time frame.
He did call Bernanke treasonous on August 16: but that is *after* the data for the polls had been collected. His support must have come from somewhere else. Where cold that be?
Look at the poll again. Tim Pawlenty has dropped out of the race. And according to Rasmussen, 16% of primary voters *remain* undecided: so T-Paw’s supporters did not disappear into the noise.
Could it be that Perry may have just picked up most of Pawlenty’s support, together with a small slice of Romney, Bachmann, and Paul’s support? And if that is true, does it really argue for a massive groundswell among the Tea Party, or for the substitution of one lukewarm RINO for another?
Note : Compare this to the actual Ames straw poll results from Free Republic:
1. Congresswoman Michele Bachmann (4823, 28.55%)
2. Congressman Ron Paul (4671, 27.65%)
3. Governor Tim Pawlenty (2293, 13.57%)
4. Senator Rick Santorum (1657, 9.81%)
5. Herman Cain (1456, 8.62%)
6. Governor Rick Perry (718, 3.62%) write-in
7. Governor Mitt Romney (567, 3.36%)
8. Speaker Newt Gingrich (385, 2.28%)
9. Governor Jon Huntsman (69, 0.41%)
10. Congressman Thad McCotter (35, 0.21%)
The straw poll is by definition “self selection” and not random, i.e. liable to shenanigans).
If one includes the straw poll, one has to account for Romney placing below even Cain and Santorum; which is sure to skew the results, given that conventional wisdom has Perry and Romney as the front-runners among declared candidates.
2) The GOP astroturf factor
The LA Times reports that Perry’s Texas donors are doing quite well in Texas, hinting at a combination of class envy and a tu quoque argument about the kind of “pay to play” environment long enforced by Democrats. But there is a more significant fact contained within this article:
”Perry has received a total of $37 million over the last decade from just 150 individuals and couples”
--which works out to $240,000 from each of these donors. This is not the kind of grass-roots, $20-at-a-time donations characteristic of a true populist.
And when one looks at a “spontaneous” outpouring of articles at places ranging from RedState.com (which inspired this piece) to The Weekly Standard, including personal attacks on detractors of Perry -- and thoughtful lists of talking points all ready to go, “spontaneously” ?
Usually it takes time to come up with such things, particularly for a brand new campaign.
Having the fawning articles (such as the publicity that Perry won in the Alabama State Republican Executive Committee Summer Meeting Straw Poll, with 101 votes out of a total of 205 cast!) appear from all points of the compass at once, makes it look like strings are being pulled.
A further curious phenomenon is seen in Real Clear Politics.
In the latest polly, Perry jumps to 29% on Rasmussen Reports form 8-15: but for all other polls from 8-2 to 8-9, Perry tops out at 18%. Either this is a bump from the announcement, or Perry is drawing someone else?
Here’s a hint: according to Real Clear Politics, Perry never showed up in Rasmussen’s results until mid-June. Then all of a sudden, his numbers started climbing, even though he hadn’t declared.
Here’s another hint: Rasmussen does not include Palin among the possible candidates.
Is Perry merely the latest establishment candidate designed to stave off a Palin candidacy, given that Romney was not catching fire with the base?
LOL. You sure are. Your vanity is well done, well thought out, and well presented.
I'm not anti-Perry like I am anti-Romney, I'll support him if he wins (so far) and vote for him.
You have given some very good debating points and hopefully will make more than a few Perry supporters rethink their enthusiasm.
Kudos to your work, I am now off to finish reading the thread for the various responses.
That's about as far from true as possible. If you have some names let us know, but I think you just posted a smear that is disgusting to most of us on FR who hope she runs. If you don't give us some names, then kindly withdraw the slur.
Last week before he entered the race, Perry had an interview where he stated that he was friends with the Bush clan and had called W for advice over the presidential run. It's very clear Perry considers they have a close relationship and he values it.
You forgot to include that Perry met with the Bilderbergers, just like Reagan.
Well done, the best defense of Perry as a candidate on the thread.
See the Gulen charter schools. http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2011/06/07/education/07charter-ch.html?ref=education. Where there's oil, there's money. And where there's money, there are Islamic agents provacateurs.
“Dallas Billionaire Charles Wyly Was Killed in a Traffic Accident in Aspen This Morning”
By Robert WilonskySun., Aug. 7 2011 at 8:05 PM
(Big Republican donor)
Who was the other driver in the black SUV?
http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/unfairpark/2011/08/dallas_billionaire_charles_wyl.php
” What bothers me is his much more recent endorsement of Guiliani.
Wonder if Perry ran off to Wideawakes too then...?”
LOL!
“ansel12: “As far as what he believes NOW, he evidently believes that Rudy Giuliani “He’s the closest thing we have to a Ronald Reagan Republican in this race” speaking of 2008.”
Yikes! That one certainly left a mark...
Guiliani = Reagan? LOL!”
The irony being, if Perry were a FReeper he’d have been zotted.
Oops; should have given you a courtesy ping to the preceding post, since you’re mentioned.
” Guiliani = Reagan? LOL!”
The irony being, if Perry were a FReeper he’d have been zotted. “
True.
It’s called vetting. Here, read this, it’s from a highly respected conservative: http://michellemalkin.com/2011/08/16/rick-perrys-bad-obama-style-medicine/
Is there any truth to the charge that Perry played a role in advancing the ‘Islam is a religion of peace’ meme in TX classrooms?
I don't like to have to wade through your pro Al Gore BS.
If you really believed all that about Al Gore in 1988, then your judgement is deeply flawed.
wardaddy, wow, you have real bona fides re the Cuban exile community, what with the Brigada 2506 and Betancourt (a true hero) and all. I wouldn’t mind having a ‘cafecito’ with you to banter more on this. My feeling is that the failure of the U.S. to back up 2506 and its mission, caused the greatest harm ever to fall on the U.S. (Castro survival, Soviet missiles, with a consequent knee-jerk reaction to over do it in Vietnam 3 years later). We are still reeling from the effects of this today. Ironically, though, had 2506 been successful, I would not be here today.
Please look up the definition of "accusation."
I don't like to have to wade through your pro Al Gore BS.
It's not pro-Gore B.S. It's an explanation offered for why Perry supported him in 1988.
If you really believed all that about Al Gore in 1988, then your judgement is deeply flawed.
My judgment in 1988 is irrelvant. Al Gore's 1988 positions of pro-life, pro-guns, pro-defense, and pro-tobacco are documented facts. There is plenty of evidence out there available for your review to verify that information.
Betancourt was a quiet little guy...he had been caught before trying to sneak back into Cuba..sad when I saw what happened to him on the news...he deserves a monument one day in his homeland
I have a friend in Lauderdale still...we were all down last April for a few days..stayed at the Sagamore...they gave us this great penthouse for half price...I cannot believe how much has changed..wow...Lincoln Road street life...Ocean Drive had just started with one or two spots when I first got to Miami in 88
My wife and 3 youngest loved it...ate at Joe's and Casa Juancho...saw all the old houses I lived in...but man...the traffic...Dade population is almost double now what it was then...I still knew how to avoid all the clogs
it's funny...totally different subject but it looks like the Dope business is over there...it's different..better...Perico was everywhere in my day...huge...tonnes and tonnes of it coming in and cartel guys living next door and Willie and Sal still going strong...if you're old enough you know the history...it was a cowboy town with lots of action...and good lord at the money...Dope transformed Miami quicker and more from 1975 to 1995 than anything that ever came down the pike in her history...except la Barba
now the nice parts are more like high areas of Europe..Spain or Italy...Miami is the true capital of Latin America but now there are a lot of Europeans new there
if you avoid the ghettos, it's not so bad you know...nowhere in the world do so many folks live on the water and it's so clean and beautiful
Please note that the ACU rating to which you refer was not Gore’s lifetime rating in 1988. It was his rating for 1988. What I mean by that is that the ACU’s yearly rating is based on a legislator’s votes for ONLY the bills considered (voted upon) that year. So if there were no bills about abortion or gun control in a particular year, the rating doesn’t reflect a legislator’s overall positions on those issues.
Don’t take my word for it. Please go to the ACU website and read about how they calculate their ratings. I have been unable to find Gore’s lifetime ACU rating from 1988. So I have researched his positions on various conservative issues. He was pro-life, pro-guns, & pro-defense.
Not good sir. If you have some links showing Gore voted pro-life, pro-gun, and pro-defense I'd love to see them.
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