The Tea Party refuses to embrace social issues like abortion & gay marraige. Until they do, they will be a failure. Social issues go hand-in-hand with fiscal ones. Their unwillingness to admit that waters down their entire goal & they will fail. Period.
By "embrace", do you mean "agree with"? Many if not most of the tea party have made themselves clear on how they feel about murdering babies and eroding the sanctity of marriage.
Tea Party = TEA = Taxed Enough Already. The TEA party is trying to save the country, without which the other stuff you mention won’t matter. Right? I’m passionately pro-life and for years profiled all I voted for through this lense. If a politician is willing to deny basic Constitutional rights to the unborn, they will deny anyone anything.
But this election season, it’s the economy stupid. We save the country from the mismanagement by our own stupid government or we don’t. All else comes secondary.
“The Tea Party refuses to embrace social issues”
I wouldn’t say “refuses”. Looking back at the Tea Party movement prior to the 2010 elections, the focus was on “economics”, ie, debt, spending, and taxes. Look at the “raging firestorm” currently going on in DC. One battle at a time is enough.
I am a social conservative. I don't voter for politicians who support abortion. I don't support homosexual marriage.
I am also a fiscal conservative.
I believe that smaller government will lead to more social conservatism (if Uncle Sugar won't rescue people, people will make better choices).
I believe that more social conservatism will lead to smaller government (if I take responsibility for myself, why do I need a big government?)
These things are linked and while they could be pursued in parallel, they can also each be used as a starting place to get to the other. Given the financial crisis, I think that the Tea Party's emphasis on fiscal conservatism makes sense and is a good starting point. I believe this is an easier "sell" to the voters right now. I also believe that it will eventually help us achieve more social conservarism.
I don't see a problem with the Tea Party not also emphasizing social issues.
'Social isssues', to the extent they require any type of governmental 'embrace', were evisaged to be matters for the several states to work out by their respective residents.
FedGov was specifically chartered with a very limited brief, the subsequent cumulative violation of that intent having delivered us into the clutches of Leviathan.
The Founders all stated that freedom can not exist without virtue. Virtue was synonymous with “happiness” because the Founders all knew that if you are not virtuous you will not attain happiness. Our legal system was based on moral principles of God’s standard of right and wrong—it is where OUR rights come from—the Creator.
They want to play the game of economics and kick out the Creator, with no Universal/Absolute rules, which the Founders demanded. It is like trying to play a basketball game with everyone creating their own rules—moral relativism. It never works—we have to have one standard and our government was designed to have Supra Positive law—which is higher than Hitler-type law —that unequal political man-made-up law, based on no higher standards of right and wrong than Hitler’s or Marx.
Natural Law Theory (Locke, Blackstone) was the Constitution’s basic philosophy—throw out the laws of nature and God’s law and you destroy the meaning and intent of the document.
They want chaos if they do not accept God’s standard of right and wrong—Right Reason according to Nature (teleological design of God’s creation as understood by the Bible).
You get “homosexual marriage and abortion and ‘do whatever the urge’ no matter how dysfunctional and damaging to civil society and freedom of others—even if it destroys inalienable rights of babies and destroys freedom of conscience and religion. There is no God—then we have no Natural Rights because they come from God and nature’s design.-
When people remove God from the legal system, we will become like Nazi Germany and someone will fill the void of no God. Nuremberg trials said there are Supra Positive Laws that make Hitler’s null and void.
Yes—we saw how well that works in Germany and Russia and all of Africa—moral relativism where you can just make anyone God. Tyranny and Evil.
I'm not sure of your logic here. Social and fiscal issues are separate entities. However, it is true that most fiscal foibles can be attributed to anti-constitutional social interpretations of "rights". As long as we keep spending and feeding these social maladies, we cannot stop them or get our fiscal house in order. If we start using fiscal prudence to defund and marginalize the social pressure groups, we can eventually kill both birds.
The TEA Party is not a politician and does not need to pretend to be all things to all folks -it is rightly concentrating on the fiscal side of the equation.
Sorry, the Tea Party stands for Principles of which Abortion and gay marriage are key and they will NOT back down. Morals are truly the reason we are where we are.
A Moral Nation can survive but an unmoral one will kill itself as shown by history time and time again.
You mean they don’t embrace social engineering, which is anti-freedom, anti-American and anti-human.
It wasn’t long ago that freedom loving people taught their children that social engineering destroys freedom and individual liberty. They were teaching it to the military until last week when Obama and Panetta destroyed them with ‘a stroke of the pen’.
You comment marks you as a social engineer.
Unless you want it to. If you do, you can form your own "SIP" Social Issues Party and just drink tea.
I see nothing wrong with the Tea Party focusing on fiscal issues. There are some folks who are just not comfortable dealing with social issues. That’s OK. As long as they don’t start denigrating we who ARE interested in Social Issues, and are willing to discuss and fight for them, I’m fine with them staying with what they know. There are plenty of us who are comfortable with BOTH sets of issues.
The Tea Party refuses to embrace social issues like abortion & gay marraige. Until they do, they will be a failure. Social issues go hand-in-hand with fiscal ones. Their unwillingness to admit that waters down their entire goal & they will fail. Period.—————
It’s not about the Tea party refusing to ‘embrace social issues’. The Tea party is about not forcing American taxpayers to pay for other people’s abortions, and ‘benefits’ from gay ‘marriage’.
Social issues got hand in hand with fiscal ones is propaganda.
The left’s unwillingness to tolerate other’s beliefs is the real problem. so they try to FORCE them.
Tea party is about not letting government use the citizenry as open ended credit cards for the left’s and the right’s ‘social’ dreams, at least to the extent it crashes our country.
so you are way off base, but then maybe you’re just paid to put that propaganda out? Or do JournOlista’s get paid? Oh yeah, by it being taken from taxpayers.