'Irrefutable' proof of Obama forgery

WND ^ | July 16, 2011 | Jerome R. Corsi

[RobinMasters]

NEW YORK – Unless the typewriter used to type Barack Obama's purported Hawaiian "Certificate of Live Birth" in 1961 was magically capable of producing different size and shaped images with the exact same key, the document released by the White House April 27 is a forgery, says a professional typographer with 50 years experience.

"Steel-stamped letters do not expand to larger sizes and morph into different styles of type," retired New York City typographer Paul Irey told WND.

As WND previously reported, it would be impossible for the different letters that appear in the Obama birth certificate to have been typed by one typewriter, according to Irey.

"These are irrefutable proofs of forgery," he said.

His newest analysis suggests the document was assembled from images of letters or words taken from other documents.

"The forger who produced the Obama Hawaii long-form birth certificate may have thought that all typewriter typeface styles were alike," he said.

"To get his letters, the forger must have understood that he needed to copy the old typewriter styles," he continued. "So the forger probably scanned a bunch of old birth certificates, without realizing that the letters in the old files were from different typewriter styles. That's why the letters in the forged document do not match each other."

Irey used as a source document the Xerox copy of the Obama birth certificate the White House press staff handed to the press assembled in the White House pressroom on April 27, as seen in Exhibit 1:

[jh4freedom]

All of this is hearsay. This document would not be admitted in any court of law as being the genuine birth certificate or a facsimile of the original. There is nothing to back up the fact that it is a copy of an original.

The issue could be resolved by Obama ordering a certified original and then giving the Certified Original to the press. He has posted a PDF on the White House web site with no documentation as to where it came from and there have been dozens of software engineers and documents experts who have not only questioned the authenticity of the document, but have declared it to be a fraud.

Read Rule 902 of the Federal Rules of Evidence:
http://www.utcourts.gov/resources/rules/ure/0902.htm

The Reader’s Digest Version is that whatever the state of Hawaii says is an authentic birth record for their state which carries the state Seal and an authentification statement from an authorized representative of the state is “self-authenticating” in any Court of Law. The same would be true before any committee of Congress or in a Grand Jury proceeding.

The scanned image from a pdf file is irrelevant. A hard COPY would be introduced in any court of law or before a congressional committee.

From the state of Hawaii:
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: April 27, 2011
HAWAI‘I HEALTH DEPARTMENT GRANTS PRESIDENT OBAMA’S REQUEST FOR CERTIFIED COPIES OF ‘LONG FORM’ BIRTH CERTIFICATE
HONOLULU – The Hawai’i State Health Department recently complied with a request by President Barack Obama for certified copies of his original Certificate of Live Birth, which is sometimes referred to in the media as a “long form” birth certificate.
“We hope that issuing certified copies of the original Certificate of Live Birth to President Obama will end the numerous inquiries related to his birth in Hawai’i,” Hawai’i Health Director Loretta Fuddy said. “I have seen the original records filed at the Department of Health and attest to the authenticity of the certified copies the department provided to the President that further prove the fact that he was born in Hawai’i.”

On April 22, 2011, President Obama sent a letter to Director Fuddy, requesting two certified copies of his original Certificate of Live Birth. Also on that day, Judith Corley, the President’s personal attorney, made the same request in writing on behalf of the President. (Letters from President Obama and Ms. Corley are attached).

On April 25, 2011, pursuant to President Obama’s request, Director Fuddy personally witnessed the copying of the original Certificate of Live Birth and attested to the authenticity of the two copies. Dr. Alvin Onaka, the State Registrar, certified the copies.

President Obama authorized Ms. Corley to pick up the documents. On April 25, 2011, Ms. Corley appeared in person at the Hawai’i State Department of Health building in Honolulu, paid the requisite fee, and was given the two certified copies, a response letter from Director Fuddy to President Obama, and a receipt for payment. (Letter from Director Fuddy is attached).

In June 2008, President Obama released his Certification of Live Birth, which is sometimes referred to in the media as a “short form” birth certificate. Both documents are legally sufficient evidence of birth in the State of Hawai’i, and both provide the same fundamental information: President Obama was born in Honolulu, Hawai’i at 7:24 p.m. on August 4, 1961, to mother Stanley Ann Dunham and father Barack Hussein Obama.

In 2001, the Hawai’i State Department of Health began computer-generating vital statistics records. Since then, its longstanding policy and practice has been to issue and provide only the computer-generated Certifications of Live Birth, and to not produce photocopies of actual records to fulfill requests for certified copies of certificates.
Director Fuddy made an exception for President Obama by issuing copies of the original birth certificate. The departmental policy to issue only computer-generated Certifications of Live Birth remains in effect for all birth records that have been computerized. Director Fuddy, in her capacity as Health Director, has the legal authority to approve the process by which copies of birth records are made.

“The exception made in this case to provide President Obama with a copy of his original Certificate of Live Birth was done according to the letter of the law,” Attorney General David Louie said. “Director Fuddy exercised her legal authority in a completely appropriate manner in this unique circumstance. We will continue to maintain the strict confidentiality requirements afforded to vital statistics records, such as birth certificates. These requirements help protect the integrity of the records, and keep us all safe from crimes, such as identity theft.”

Governor Neil Abercrombie stated: “Considering all of the investigations that have been done and the information that has been provided, no rational person can question the President’s citizenship. We have found a way – once again – to confirm what we already knew: the President was born here in Hawai’i. State officials of both parties have verified that President Obama’s birth records show that he was born in Honolulu.
“President Obama’s mother and father were dear friends of mine, and we must respect their memory. It is an insult to the President, his parents and to the Office to suggest that he was not born in Hawai’i. The State of Hawai’i has done everything within our legal ability to disabuse these conspiracy theorists. We granted the President’s request for certified copies of his birth certificate so we can all move on from this unfortunate distraction and focus on the real issues affecting people today.”
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For more information, contact: Donalyn Dela Cruz, Press Secretary, (808) 586-0012

http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/News_Release_Birth_Certificate_042711.pdf

[Genoa]

Your four images are all a little different from each other. That’s the kind of distortion I was referring to. For example, one R has a flat-looking serif and another R has a curly-looking serif. Scanning gives a rough image, especially if the DPI isn’t real high. I guess I just don’t know what anyone hopes to prove from this sort of thing. The nine layers—now that I understand.

[Tex-Con-Man]

The fact that you follow these threads contradicts your claim that this is a non-issue.
If you want to be consistent, we should not see any more of your posts on this topic.

Since your short posting history consists exclusively of birther threads, it is understandable you would get the mistaken impression that Free Republic is a birther website. It's a conservative website. And since I still consider birtherism to be a political threat to advancing conservatism, I'll continue to comment when the inspiration strikes.

My post upthread reflected the seriousness with which I hold this subject...it was a joke...

[ml/nj]

But that’s because real document authentification experts like those who are certified by the American Board of Forensic Document Examiners would never do an analysis of a third or fourth generation digitized scan of a document as opposed to an analysis of the original document.

Yours is such a BOGUS argument.

The Forensic Document Examiners you speak of are normally called upon to authenticate a document. To authenticate a document does require examination of the original. But that is not what we are doing here. We are involved in demonstrating that some document is not authentic from a copy of that document.

You might have a look at the London Times of October 26, 1995. According to the Times, Reginald Alton, whom they described as an Oxford Scholar and leading British handwriting expert, declared the supposed suicide note of Vincent Foster to be a poor forgery. Alton, of course, was not given access to the original torn note. All he used to make his pronouncement was the image of the note published in the Wall Street Journal.

ML/NJ

[Real Cynic No More]

Actually, in this situation, this might be quite explainable: 1) a preprinted form with one or more typefaces, 2) standard hospital information typed on copies of the same form using a different machine(s) and typeface(s), 3) typewritten entries for individuals being birthed.

[jh4freedom]

Yours is such a BOGUS argument.

The Forensic Document Examiners you speak of are normally called upon to authenticate a document. To authenticate a document does require examination of the original. But that is not what we are doing here. We are involved in demonstrating that some document is not authentic from a copy of that document.

You might have a look at the London Times of October 26, 1995. According to the Times, Reginald Alton, whom they described as an Oxford Scholar and leading British handwriting expert, declared the supposed suicide note of Vincent Foster to be a poor forgery. Alton, of course, was not given access to the original torn note. All he used to make his pronouncement was the image of the note published in the Wall Street Journal.

ML/NJ

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Anybody with evidence of an alleged crime (and forgery is both a “high crime and a misdemeanor”) should take that evidence to a law enforcement agency for further investigation.

I don’t think anybody minds having discussions about whether there is a forgery or not. These discussions are interesting.

[Vintage Freeper]

"Where is the evidence that our highest military peacefully and legally sought certifiable clarification from congress and the courts that Obama was a natural born citizen?"

Do we really want the military asking questions before taking orders?

Should the military be taking sides in issues or debates between the legislature, executive and judicial branches of government? Isn't that how military juntas or military dictators come to power?

[ml/nj]

Anybody with evidence of an alleged crime (and forgery is both a “high crime and a misdemeanor”) should take that evidence to a law enforcement agency for further investigation.

I don't think you've noticed, Pal. People have been doing this for years now with mixed results. One distinguished military guy just got out of the slammer for having the temerity to do as you suggest. Some of us who ask questions haven't been completely crushed yet, but even on FR here there are people like you who ridicule and raise BOGUS arguments. It's not nice.

ML/NJ

[ml/nj]

Should the military be taking sides in issues or debates between the legislature, executive and judicial branches of government?

I wonder how you think the united States came into being.

ML/NJ

[Vintage Freeper]

Fifty-six men sat down and drafted a list of grievances that led to their decision to declare independence. There was no army, no navy, and no military involvement at all.

[jh4freedom]

I don’t think you’ve noticed, Pal. People have been doing this for years now with mixed results. One distinguished military guy just got out of the slammer for having the temerity to do as you suggest. Some of us who ask questions haven’t been completely crushed yet, but even on FR here there are people like you who ridicule and raise BOGUS arguments. It’s not nice.

ML/NJ

Obama eligibility legal actions thus far have been civil lawsuits. The criminal side of the judicial system has not been approached and forgery can be investigated and charged as either a misdemeanor offense or as a felony crime.

Lieutenant Colonel Lakin didn’t file a criminal complaint with a law enforcement agency. He was court-martialed for disobeying movement orders.

We’ll all have to wait and see if anyone does follow through and present a law enforcement agency with credible evidence of forgery. That could launch a grand jury investigation. If the experts are right, there should be enought there to issue indictments.

[ml/nj]

Fifty-six men sat down and drafted a list of grievances that led to their decision to declare independence. There was no army, no navy, and no military involvement at all.

You are irreconcilably ignorant, perhaps suffering from a public school education. Look up Lexington and Concord (the events at which occurred more than a year before the Declaration).

ML/NJ

[DiogenesLamp]

No body cares. This is hopeless. Give it up and concentrate on the issues.

Yes, we can't possibly hope to beat the British. You would have saved General Washington a lot of trouble. Thank you Sunshine Patriot.

[P-Marlowe]

The Hawai’i State Health Department recently complied with a request by President Barack Obama for certified copies of his original Certificate of Live Birth, which is sometimes referred to in the media as a “long form” birth certificate. “We hope that issuing certified copies of the original Certificate of Live Birth to President Obama.....

There is no proof that the document put on the White House web site is the document provided by the State of Hawaii to Obama. The original was given to Barack Obama and the document placed on the white house web site has been declared a fraud by literally dozens of document and software experts.

There is a chain of custody problem here and the evidence points to the fact that the document on the White House web site has been tampered with.

[DiogenesLamp]

At the end of the day, people believe what they want to believe and the majority of people don’t WANT to believe that their president is illegitimate, any more than the Germans back in the 1930s wanted to believe that their rulers were genocidal monsters.

Amusing Juxtaposition. Hitler was born in Austria, and He wasn't a "natural born citizen" of Germany either. (smile) He was challenged on his "Germaness" but they let him stay in office, though he really wasn't eligibile. We all see how THAT turned out.

[DiogenesLamp]

Many FReepers on both sides of this issue have simply moved on. If you look at the eligibility threads (which seem to be fewer and fewer in number each week) it's more or less the same people posting more or less the same comments.

The issue is dead.

And yet here you are! It would be helpful to all if YOU thought it was deader than you apparently do.

[DiogenesLamp]

Before we get too excited over this, could we have some other BCs from the same time and place checked for non-matching letters? It's possible that, for instance, SOP was for the first part of the form to be filled in in anticipation of the birth and the second part later, on a different machine. I'm not saying it's so, but we need to be able to say that it's not so.

That is an excellent point! If we should happen to discover that other documents have the same sort of type face peculiarities, then we have to posit a different explanation. For the problems.

There is still going to have to be a better explanation for THIS TYPEFACE PROBLEM. What kind of type face renders years later as a binary bitmap of one pixel size, switches to color and a pixel size 4 times larger, (Note pixels in circles) then switches back to a binary bitmap of the smaller pixel size for the remainer? Neat trick that. (for a typeface.) Example->

I guess what I am saying is, you have an excellent point, but even if true, it won't explain the above problem. The above problem in my mind, can only be explained by copying source images of different resolution and bit depth, and pasting them onto a high resolution destination surface. (In Memory or on the Graphics card.)

[DiogenesLamp]

Seems some Hawaii officials are complicit in this. Now they have to cover their own backs.

I speculate that the document is ENTIRELY the product of the Department of Health in Hawaii. I believe they created a New Birth Ceritificate for Barry under a judge's order.

I believe Barry was a adopted at some point in his life.

[DiogenesLamp]

To the best of my knowledge, only four people have seen the original, long form, vault copy, birth certificate over the last 50 years: two Hawaii Directors of Health, the current Registrar of Vital Statistics for the state of Hawaii and whoever the clerk was who made the two hard copy photocopies of the original.

Presuming that what is being shown *IS* the original. I'm pretty sure that Barry's Kindergarten Administrators saw his original. Whether it looks like what he has now is another story.

[DiogenesLamp]

The Reader’s Digest Version is that whatever the state of Hawaii says is an authentic birth record for their state which carries the state Seal and an authentification statement from an authorized representative of the state is “self-authenticating” in any Court of Law. The same would be true before any committee of Congress or in a Grand Jury proceeding.

That is an EXCELLENT POINT! Since the document specifically STATES that it is not authenticated, then it is worthless as evidence. In order for it to qualify as Evidence, it MUST have an authentication statement declaring it to be a "True and Correct copy of the Original Record."

The fact that it does not even claim to be a copy of the original, proves it cannot be used as evidence. Good Job pointing that out jh4freedom!