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Urban Survival Skills To Keep Your Ass Alive
survive2thrive.ne ^ | 7/14/11 | Steve

Posted on 07/14/2011 9:06:55 PM PDT by Kartographer

Even if you are fortunate enough to have a retreat out in the country getting to your safe haven maybe impossible during upheaval. Roads blocked by wrecked and fuelless vehicles will stop most bugouters in their tracks. Maybe you were born lucky and can make it out safely before the balloon bursts, then what? People in rural areas, will start shooting if threatened by mobs of refugees fleeing the city. Don’t expect to be welcomed with arms outstretched. Most country folks don’t trust outsiders; you will likely be greeted with a load of buckshot and not the cup of fresh coffee and meaningful conversation you hoped for.

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To: Errant

You are correct. We do have a couple of working compasses and stacks of maps, including very detailed ones of the valley I live in and surrounding mountains. We’re sort of into the map thing.

There could always be a forest fire that would force us out, can’t imagine much else.


221 posted on 07/16/2011 1:21:28 PM PDT by little jeremiah ("I think you are the sicko! and I think you are an embarrassment to FR.")
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To: Roccus

I don’t want anybody’s dander up. Everybody’s circumstances are different. My boat could be trapped in a marina and never make it to the ocean, and so on. Or the balloon could go up while we’re a thousand miles from home. My only zone of disagreement was what I took to be your rather blase attitude toward the threat infiltrators would make. I think a lot of folks in general think that a zone of fire and a rifle or rifles will keep them safe from attack, and I think they often fail to consider that the attackers can also have rifles and fire from ambush in a sneak attack. The dumb refugees will all be dead. The ones who survive to make it to the retreats will be smart and will have honed their raid tactics, and will have picked up good weapons along the way. I wish us all good luck, we’ll all need it, along with our preps and our faith and our families. I wish disparagement on no sincere freeper here, so I’m sorry if my tone was over the line. For that I sincerely apologize. I hope we are still freeping away in peace a decade hence, and are not crouching over hidden campfires. —Matt


222 posted on 07/16/2011 1:29:00 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: little jeremiah

Any useable caves in your area? :)


223 posted on 07/16/2011 1:30:56 PM PDT by Errant
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To: Errant
POWs hoping to escape, risked their lives to obtain or create what today can obtained from Walmart or Amazon for only a few bucks.

Amen. I met a guy who fell off a big sportfisher after leaving Bimini for Fort Lauderdale. By the time the others, asleep below, noticed he was gone, miles had gone by. He spent 48 hours treading water in the Gulfstream with one arm, the other being dislocated falling from the tower over the gunnel into the water. They had just come from a big Hatteras Bertram Shootout, adn he had a bunch of poker winnings from the associated partying and card playing in his pockets. He tread water for two days, thinking he was a dead man. All the while he thought of the things he could have purchased in any West Marine or Boat US store with the cash in his pockets. Rafts, flares, beacons and so on. But he had only the paper money and no chance to get to those stores. He was plucked from the water after dawn on the third day, and lived to tell the tale to me.

224 posted on 07/16/2011 1:38:55 PM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Errant

Tons of ‘em. ;-)


225 posted on 07/16/2011 1:41:40 PM PDT by little jeremiah ("I think you are the sicko! and I think you are an embarrassment to FR.")
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To: Travis McGee

What a story. I hope the paper money wasn’t ruined!


226 posted on 07/16/2011 3:37:52 PM PDT by little jeremiah ("I think you are the sicko! and I think you are an embarrassment to FR.")
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To: Travis McGee

Helio Aircraft Company
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helio_Aircraft_Company


227 posted on 07/16/2011 4:19:08 PM PDT by familyop (Rome was burned in a day--twice.)
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To: Travis McGee
"There will be thousands of RVs locked into that final fatal gridlock on SHTF day. Think Hurricane Rita writ large, with no ending. I doubt many will make it to your AO."

Yes, and sincerely, that would be very sad. But there are also security reasons that will stop it from happening (PM coming your way). Unlike many others, though, I would welcome those who have properties around here to move to them. Property rights are important. That's unlikely, too, though, because we're not a generation of builders. And the sinking economy has increasingly been reeking of anti-American and anti-traditional interests for decades.


228 posted on 07/16/2011 4:27:35 PM PDT by familyop (Rome was burned in a day--twice.)
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To: Travis McGee; Kartographer; All
Who's really "prepping?"


Intelligent Investing Panel
Going Great Guns
Forbes
David Serchuk, 04.23.09

"[Steve] Forbes: I was in Colorado, and I knew people who had 200, 300 guns. And they'd stash them in various hidden places around their compound. This wasn't all that uncommon out west."

[That's probably at least about $200,000 per person/family, and the resorts were bristling nearly exclusively with "Obama" signs before the last general election.]


229 posted on 07/16/2011 6:02:00 PM PDT by familyop (Rome was burned in a day--twice.)
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To: Roccus; Travis McGee

On who knows what,...

Our personal situations are very different in many ways from one of us to another. For example, my perceptions of being situated in a city or anyplace on most of the terrain of our country are less clear than for most of you (except for my past training and experiences). Here, the climate and distances are far more dangerous than violent criminals can be.

Oh, yeah, I’ve lived in all kinds of places in the past but haven’t seen for over a decade, what most of the rest of you regularly see. Likewise for nearly all of you regarding this place (somewhat like Mars)—even those who’ve often visited. Prairie dogs here carry the Bubonic Plague, BTW. My overseas shots for that expired over 10 years ago, so no prairie dog stew, even if the SHTF. ;-)


230 posted on 07/16/2011 6:33:24 PM PDT by familyop (Rome was burned in a day--twice.)
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To: Roccus; Travis McGee
"As I said earlier, the topography of WV is our biggest asset. You talk about 400 yard shots. Are YOU serious. Do you understand what the land is like here in WV? 400 yd. shots would be more than a ridgeline away."

That's a good example of a difference from one location to another. At my place, we can see for no less than about ten miles in every direction. Winds are most often high, and most visitors have oxygen debt problems when exerting.


231 posted on 07/16/2011 6:51:03 PM PDT by familyop (Rome was burned in a day--twice.)
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To: little jeremiah

I will agree with that. THe US is a vastly different culture than that of the Argies.

That could lead one to believe that things could be far worse here than was seen in SA. Far worse.


232 posted on 07/16/2011 8:51:08 PM PDT by ASOC (What are you doing now that Mexico has become OUR Chechnya?)
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To: ASOC

And Argentina’s collapse happened as a stand alone situation. Now the whole world is practically aflame. Or collapsing, or whatever one wants to call it.


233 posted on 07/16/2011 9:04:28 PM PDT by little jeremiah ("I think you are the sicko! and I think you are an embarrassment to FR.")
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To: Travis McGee
Your vessel, Travis?....

A fine Ketch

234 posted on 07/16/2011 9:13:15 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (You do not have to smear (Pharaoh / Imam / DumboEars) Obama w/ lies....the truth does a fine job. :)
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To: Travis McGee
hehe...set to live, large & safety....storage is life.
no large mtr / mostly sail / sexton / charts / solar cells / batteries...good prep.

235 posted on 07/16/2011 9:27:04 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (You do not have to smear (Pharaoh / Imam / DumboEars) Obama w/ lies....the truth does a fine job. :)
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To: Kartographer

Here’s another possible disaster scenario in the making now.

Outcasts:Tonight Tens Of Thousands Of Formerly Middle Class Americans Will Be Sleeping In Their Cars
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2749652/posts

There’s a clue for anyone in open and notorious use of government regulations (including local) or support from foreign communist and Islamist nations against one’s own countrymen in lieu of traditional competition: that is, invention, design, building and continued hard work related to domestic production (manufacturing).


236 posted on 07/16/2011 10:38:47 PM PDT by familyop (Rome was burned in a day--twice.)
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To: Lurker
You should have told him right then and there that if he showed up empty handed you'd shoot him right on your doorstep. I've done it.

I've told them 'driveway'. Amazing how many people think that they're that good of a friend to me. I'm stockpiling extra for my family, and ONE friend (with her family).

237 posted on 07/16/2011 11:14:48 PM PDT by nina0113
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To: kaylar
I wish there were still coffee sold in the old fashioned cans , without the peel off seal. Even the store brands (eg Great Value) are using the pull off inner seals. Maybe it doesn't make any real difference, but I can't help but feel that cans that require a can opener will keep stuff fresher and longer than the kind with an attached means of opening.

I've got about a dozen of the bricks. They stack nicely.

238 posted on 07/16/2011 11:16:07 PM PDT by nina0113
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To: skinkinthegrass

No, that fine ketch was just grabbed from google images to illustrate the concept. And the smaller boats above it might even be better survival platforms, due to lower upkeep costs and a lower profile generally. My escape pod is about at reply 64 or so.


239 posted on 07/17/2011 8:45:13 AM PDT by Travis McGee (EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee
Amazing! I can't imagine the horror of floating alone in dark sea at risk any moment of being ripped apart by a violent and dark eyed beast. Me thinks a higher power had other plans for him.

Thanks for sharing!! Are your novels available on Kindle or Audible.com??

240 posted on 07/17/2011 10:08:22 AM PDT by Errant
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