Posted on 07/07/2011 9:20:49 AM PDT by Kartographer
OK I will state this right up front:
I believe that the VAST majority of preppers out there do not want some major disaster or event to occur.
Whew .now with the rest of the post.
I have seen that many non-preppers make comments such as You must be hoping that TSHTF so you can justify spending all this money on all this stuff you have. Another comment I have seen is You must be pretty paranoid.
Those are some of the nicer ones that can be published here.
(Excerpt) Read more at modernsurvivalonline.com ...
If you look at it, it is only during the last 40 or 50 years that putting back a bit of things when you can for possible 'hard times' has become not the 'norm'.
While I am at this I might as well take time to comment on one of the most often used 'sarc' used against 'preppers' which is some referral to 'Y2K'. Admittedly some people went way overboard during the 'Y2K' scare, but does anyone consider that until the 'Y2K' concerns became a 'scare' that they was actually very little being done toward correcting the problem? I think its fair to say that it was the large concerns over 'Y2K' that drove the inititive to fix it.
To me trotting out 'Y2K' is a lot like telling people that live in some major gulf coast city that there is no need for hurricane preparedness, because the last time was a false alarm or the last time the evacuation went so smoothly that they is little danger to the city from a hurricane. Just because you dodged the 'bullet' once doesn't mean that you are 'bullet proof'.
There is no greater disaster than to underestimate danger.
Underestimation can be fatal.
PING!
Not all. Just the religious ones. :-)
What an incredibly ignorant statement, akin to...
"You must be hoping to get cancer to justify the money you spend on health insurance."
OR
"You must be hoping to get into a car accident to justify spending all this money of car insurance."
Dumb. Prepping is insurance so I never have to watch my chldren starve to death.
Will reply more later.
I just want some of the insanity to get fixed. Or a lot of the insanity. And I’ve come to the conclusion that it won’t get fixed until it breaks. This is not my desire, it’s just facing reality.
I would ignore them.
First of all, how does anyone know you are a prepper? Anyone who discusses their preparations with outsiders is a fool.
Second, let them get their answers when they come to you for assistance. Or worse, when they try to take what you've stockpiled. Then their answers will be coming from the business end of a Mossberg 500A.
Knew a person who had food for a year, stockpiled for his family. Asked him how he intended to keep it; as he was an anti-gun fanatic.
Blank look - and I informed him that he wasn’t naive’ enough to believe that starving people were going to allow him to keep his food, if he didn’t have a means to protect it. Apparently he was, and is.
Being prepared means having food, and a means of keeping the precautions you have taken.
No.
Who would want to give up running water and electric power? Grocery stores and cell phones? Hospitals and pharmacies?
Preppers just want to make certain that a disaster doesn’t kill them or their families.
My wife and I are starting prepping. We have 30 days of packaged food, some medicine and some ammo (need more of both!). This prepper stuff is harder (and more expensive).
I also need to start hunting so that I’ll have that option if it all hits the fan...
I like Jack Spirko’s (TheSurvivalPodcast) motto -
“Helping You Live the Life You Want, If Times Get Tough, Or Even If They Don’t”
All your “preps” should make your life better in tough times or good times. This includes gardening, producing your own energy, knowing how to take care of your family yourself, and all around increased levels of self reliance.
My libinlaw takes some sort of satisfaction/solace in the idea that "everyone will be in the same boat" if the economy/system collapses.
The only thing I can figure is that being miserable is OK as long as nobody ISN'T miserable. If the SHTF, we'll have to support her, but she's NOT going to be communicating with "the outside".
History right now is on our side. We are asking for a financial thumping to be rained down on us if we don’t start cutting budgets and lowering taxes and regulations.
People that say ‘you’re paranoid’ and similar in light of what’s going on out there are generally in my experience closet fascists. Those types cannot handle anyone who doesn’t suck in to their worldview, which right now is ‘party like it’s 1999’. They want to stomp people like you because you storing that food means you might be taking away from their good time and free spending, because in the socialist mind whatever you have is something you took from me.
I must admit that I do foresee "issues" that will lead to supply chain interruptions but have not yet taken all the steps to buffer my family.
I do reside in an area with many sources of locally grown/raised food so I can buy/barter with them.
All the scenarios that I can think of will involve power outages, fuel and mass distributed food shortages. I have the means to keep what I obtain, just need to stockpile.
Precisely! Your common sense is too rare;)
What a stupid attitude this article is promoting. Would the author ask a user of sun protection lotion; “Don’t you really want to get burned to a crisp?”
Yes, why in the world would us preppys want the world to end? We have so much to live for: our trust fund, the summer home, our investments, the Club, Mum and Daddy and Biff and Muffy and... no, wait, what?
Yes, because my hoards of silver, rations and ammo will make me the richest man in town. :-)
(Just kidding. Prepping is insurance. I don’t hope for a car crash to justify my auto insurance, and I don’t hope for cancer to justify my health plan).
I can think of better things to spend my on and waste valuable real estate in my car, house and office in preperation for a disaster.
But, one has to acknowledge disasters, man made and natural, happen. There is no reason not to be reasonably prepared for what is an eventuality.
It’s odd that people think preparing for a disaster is a bit out there when they:
Have a first kit or supplies (why not run to the hospital or call an ambulance for that bandaid, aspirin or irrigation of a wound?)
have more than one cycle of staples in the house (surely you can run to the grocery store and get another razor, toothbrush, toothpaste, shampoo, soaps, detergent, bleach, etc whenever you wish and under any circumstance)
have more meats or vegetables than you could reasonably consume in a week (You can trot on down to the grocery store, Sams or Costco during a catastrophic fire, earthquake, flood, snow/ice, riots ala Rodney King or even government mandated containment zones)
The tap water is always running and safe for consumption. /s
Kotex? Use those nice shirts you have.
Heat during a catastrophic event? Go the store, if you can get there, and fight for a duraflame log or bundle of wood. You should also hope no one else thought of that great idea.
Food for kids and babies? Why, the stores are full of Enfamil, milk, cereal and P&J components. Gee, ain’t it swell you are the only who needs this stuff? During a disaster?
You find yourself in flood waters but your water is contaminated. Yet, you can wade knee deep through water. unfortunately you can’t drink without certain death for all the poisonous material that has contaminated the ample supply of H2O.
Sure would be nice if you had a way to purify it with say a Berkly filter or LifeSaver bottle.
Wouldn’t want to be one of those people in any situation.
They will cry for help and maybe it will come....in time or just in time.
Maybe not...
does that come with the requisite sweater to drape over my shoulders?
I encourage my family members to be prepared for life or death. Act accordingly.
Not sure what your libinlaw is thinking. If anything, such an event would exacerbate economic differences, perhaps along new lines.
If there is a serious economic collapse (by this standard, the Great Depression wasn’t that serious...), you’re going to see a major die-off, esp in urban areas. There is not that much ready food to move around, even if there is enough organization left to attempt to intervene.
The people who will be best off will be folks with agricultural and low-tech skills (blacksmiths, etc.) (which means, as a geek, I’m in a load of trouble). Mostly rural folks. And they’ll be Lords and Ladies to those of us they choose to aid...
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