Recent WND Inquiries Appear To Have Established Obama’s Birth In Hawaii

naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com ^ | 06/09/2011 | Leo Donofrio

[rxsid]

"Recent WND Inquiries Appear To Have Established Obama’s Birth In Hawaii.

I don’t know how this slipped below my radar, but back on May 9, 2011, World Net Daily published an investigative report entitled, “Bombshell: U.S. government questioned Obama citizenship“, which – in my opinion – conclusively established that Obama was born in Hawaii. In that report, Aaron Klein revealed official documents stored in US immigration files which chronicle the troubles faced by Obama’s mother’s second husband, Lolo Soetoro, when he petitioned the US Government for a visa extension.

The WND report correctly notes that US officials expressed an interest in determining whether Soetoro’s step-son, President Obama, was actually a US citizen. The US officials who were handling Soetoro’s Visa extension application made copious notes in the file and the official comments therein illustrate that these officials doubted some of Soetoro’s statements. So, they decided to investigate the relationships listed in his application.

Below is the text of the relevant portion of the WND report:

One critical exchange is dated August 21, 1967, from Sam Benson, an officer at the Southwest Immigration and Naturalization Service office in San Pedro, Calif.

Benson’s query stated, “There is nothing in the file to document the status of the spouse’s son. Please inquire into his citizenship and residence status and determine whether or not he is the applicant’s child within the meaning of Section 101(b)(1)(B) of the Act, who may suffer exceptional hardship within the meaning of Section 212(a).”

The reference is to the Immigration and Naturalization Act, which defined a “child” as an unmarried person under 21 years of age who, among other qualifiers, could be a “stepchild,” whether or not born out of wedlock, provided the child had not reached the “age of eighteen years at the time the marriage creating the status of stepchild occurred.”

A response to Benson’s inquiry came from one “W.L. Mix” of the central immigration office, who determined Obama was a U.S. citizen.

Mix replied: “Pursuant to inquiry from central office regarding the status of the applicants’ spouse’s child by a former marriage.”

“The person in question is a United States citizen by virtue of his birth in Honolulu, Hawaii, Aug. 4, 1961. He is living with the applicants’ spouse in Honolulu, Hawaii. He is considered the applicant’s step-child, within the meaning of Sec. 101(b)(1)(B), of the act, by virtue of the marriage of the applicant to the child’s mother on March 5, 1965.”

The files do not state how the office determined Obama was born in Honolulu.

So here we see the US Government looking into an application for Visa extension by Soetoro. Further review of those documents reveal that the officials did not trust everything in Soetoro’s application. Therefore, the Government officials wanted to establish whether Obama Jr. was truly a US citizen. They made a direct inquiry on this very issue. And they concluded that Obama was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961. Again, this was established by “W.L. Mix” of the central immigration office.

Having taken such an exhaustive look into Soetoro’s application, and especially considering the government’s examination of Obama’s citizenship, I don’t see how the government officials involved would have overlooked the fact that Stanley Ann Dunham would have been out of the US and far away in Kenya on the date W.L. Mix established as DOB for Obama – if Obama had been born in Kenya.

Furthermore, a report today by WND, “Documents show marriage of Obama’s parents a sham“, illustrates that a similar investigation as to Obama, Sr. was conducted when he was also applying for a Visa extension. Those official documents include a handwritten memo from the file, written by (presumed) INS official William Wood, which states that Obama Sr.’s son, “Barack Obama II”, was born in Honolulu on August 4, 1961.

Moreover, in today’s WND article, Jerome Corsi concludes, as a result of reviewing all of the relevant INS documents, that if President Obama was born in Kenya, Dunham must have traveled there without Obama Sr., who was definitely in the US on August 4, 1961, according to these US Government records. This analysis by Corsi is correct. Obama Sr.’s presence in the US at the time of Obama’s birth is now sufficiently documented. This fact alone adds very heavy weight to President Obama having been born in the US.

I don’t see how two sets of US government officials, independently investigating the relationships between Soetoro and Dunham on one hand, and Obama Sr. and Dunham on the other, could both fail to reveal that Dunham would have been in Kenya at the time of Obama Jr.’s birth. The government officials would’ve had access to Dunham’s passport files. The contents thereof were relevant to the investigations since she was married to both men, and the marriages were relevant to immigration status, as was the issue of children.

Those who persist in accusing Obama of not being born in Hawaii do so in light of official government investigations, between 1961 and 1966, which established his birth, to the satisfaction of inquisitive government immigration officials, as having taken place on August 4, 1961 in Honolulu, Hawaii, USA.

As far as I’m concerned, the issue is settled with a massive presumption of authenticity. I do not see how the information published by WND regarding US immigration official W.L. Mix’s investigation into Obama’s US citizenship flew so far below the radar. That is the single most important fact I have come across that establishes Obama’s birth in Hawaii.

CLOSURE IS POSSIBLE WITH REGARD TO BC ISSUE.

For those who insist on keeping the birther circus alive and kickin’ (despite the info listed above), I believe there is a simple way to settle the issue once and for all. I have found two references to the fact that the US Government keeps passport “issuance” records for all passports issued. The most recent is from Congressional testimony on the House floor from March 10, 1998:

“In addition, the committee on conference is aware that on weekends there is no Departmental procedure or mechanism to access the passport issuance records maintained by the Consular Affairs Bureau. The result is that when a foreign law enforcement authority inquires about the status of a person or passport on the weekend, the State Department does not or cannot respond. This is a clear deficiency in border security procedures.” (See pg. 41/53 in the PDF counter.)

The second reference is to a US Government GAO report – written for the Secretary of State – that argued for the destruction of passport application materials. The destruction of such materials was the basis of more conspiracy theories as to Dunham’s various passport applications and renewals requested in a previous FOIA by Christopher Strunk.

Unfortunately, the FOIA request by Strunk, which has been well documented online, failed to request passport “issuance” records for Stanley Ann Dunham. Strunk only requested passport “application” materials. And the government’s reply to his FOIA request was specifically limited to passport “application” materials. Since Strunk didn’t specifically ask for passport “issuance” records, the government was not obligated to search for those records… but they do exist and they can be found.

The GAO report – which refers to passport issue cards – documents the destruction of passport application materials, but it notes that the Government retains all “old passport issue cards”:

“During numerous discussions with GSA about document retention periods, Department officials have presented many reasons for the continued storage of original passport applications. They have placed great emphasis in pointing out that old passport applications can be used to derive the citizenship of others…But other ways are just as reliable and effective… Should the Department need to verify if a parent was ever issued a passport, old passport issue cards have been microfilmed and can be referenced by the Department.“ (See pg. 44/70 in the PDF counter.)

Therefore, if Stanley Ann Dunham had been issued a passport prior to President Obama’s birth, there will be a passport issue card available with that information. If no such card exists, Dunham did not have a passport prior to August 4, 1961, and Obama could not have been born in Kenya. She would have needed a passport to be in Kenya.

It is my opinion that a proper FOIA request for passport issue cards (or copies thereof) will establish that Stanley Ann Dunham did not have a passport prior to August 4, 1961. Such a request must be SPECIFICALLY designed to eliminate all wiggle room. I suggest the following wording:

Please forward all passport issue cards and/or microfilm or microfiche copies, or any other copies thereof – or any other documents – which reference the issuance of any passport for Stanley Ann Dunham. To be perfectly clear in my FOIA request, please understand that I am NOT interested in passport application materials. Please limit your response and documents to passport issue cards or copies thereof – as well as any other documents – which the government possesses for Stanley Ann Dunham that refer to her being issued a US passport.

Any FOIA request should NOT ask for more than the passport issuance materials. I cannot stress enough how important it is that the FOIA be strictly limited as suggested above. Such a FOIA should end this conspiracy theory with authority and finality.

I should note that I have come across a certain rabid Obama eligibility supporter who alleges to have done a proper FOIA request as to passport issuance materials. I do not trust this source and I do not have access to the EXACT wording of the alleged FOIA request. Suffice to say that anyone who wants true closure on the place of birth issue should do a FOIA – strictly worded as I have suggested above – requesting passport issuance documents for Stanley Ann Dunham.

I nominate the folks at WND to take this on and make all aspects public since they are the main news resource for this issue. They are invited to take the suggested FOIA request as written above (in red) and to run with it.

The fourth estate has the power and responsibility to see this through. They should thoroughly document the exact wording of the FOIA request, and they should also document the stages of compliance by the government to such a request as is required by law. Definitive documentation regarding whether Stanley Ann Dunham held a passport prior to August 4, 1961 is readily available to the public.

The Government is required to respond to the EXACT request made. No mention of passport application materials should be forwarded by the government in response to a properly worded FOIA request for passport issuance cards (or other issuance documents). We know the cards/documents exist and that they are necessary to the government as is proved by the GAO report and Congressional testimony.

The GAO notes in their report from 1981 that while passport application materials may be destroyed, “passport issue cards” are kept. This is beyond dispute.

If no passport issuance documents can be found for Obama’s mother prior to his date of birth, then he could not have been born in Kenya.

I am not a person who needs to see anymore proof. I believe now and have always believed President Obama was born in Hawaii. But if you still have doubts, this line of inquiry is crucially necessary.

The BC issue and the birther circus surrounding it have served Obama well. Like Chester Arthur before him, the nation was thoroughly distracted by the place of birth faux conspiracy whilst the true legal question concerning his dual national status – despite place of birth – was obscured.

Everyone loves a big green juicy salacious conspiracy theory. That’s much more fun than a certified boring legal question, the answer to which was never in the hands of Obama, whereas the BC always was. He who controls the game, controls the outcome. (“Ever get the feeling you’ve been cheated?” – Johnny Rotten)

I am writing this to clear your attention spans for what will be the most authoritative and well documented analysis I have to offer on the dual national issue concerning Obama’s perpetual POTUS eligibility dilemma. I do not want the circus to obstruct the law. If you understand the importance of this post, you will pass it on far and wide so the attention of the nation can focus on the true Constitutional crisis.

Leo Donofrio, Esq."

http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/2011/06/09/recent-wnd-inquiries-appear-to-have-established-obamas-birth-in-hawaii/

[deport]

Even if Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama had been birthed in the Lincoln Bedroom of the White House Obama

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But if he was birthed in HI then that should put to rest the Kenya birthing. NBC is another issue as you point out.

[rxsid]

It’s bolded here because it’s bolded at the source. Verbatim.

[Cicero]

Strange. This seems to go against everything WND has been arguing for the past three years.

And it makes no sense.

There is no PROOF of anything here. Only what those liars Dunham and Obama may have told INS at the time, OR what those liars in the records office in Hawaii may have told them.

It was commonplace for the Hawaii records office to lie about foreigners having been born in Hawaii. It means nothing, without better documentation.

And no new documentation is produced here. Only a convoluted argument that is full of holes.

[so_real]

It's the simplest of questions : Can the son of a British subject rule the United States of America? Some folks are too stupid, or too scared, or too apathetic to ask. And others who fight to suppress the question are too cosmopolitan or too progressive to have the title "citizen".

[rxsid]

Indeed. Hopefully someone who is interested in that particular issue will make another attempt and send in a FOIA regarding any passports SADO may have actually been issued. Instead of asking for just the passport application(s).

[rxsid]

No only is he (allegedly) the son of a British subject....but by inheritance he himself...Barry...was born a British subject.

It's impossible to be a natural born Citizen and a multi-national. A "citizen"...sure, but not a "natural born Citizen."

It's clear that while some in the media like to ridicule the "birther" issue...none of them dare touch the issue of Barry being born the subject to the crown of her majesty the Queen of England. It's his birthright, inherited from his foreign father.

They won't touch that issue because they know it would be a losing proposition for them. Otherwise, they'd be all over that as well if they thought they could gain from it.

[rxsid]

No only —> Not only

[Sicon]

Sooooo worth repeating. This is the REAL eligibility issue that the media seeks to deflect attention from by blathering endlessly about Barry being born in HI, as if that means anything (which it absolutely does not). The place of his birth is irrelevant, the citizenship of his father is what matters, and no one has or can dispute the fact that Barry Sr. was never a citizen of the U.S.

If Barry was in fact born in HI, and Sr. was his legal father at birth...Barry was born a multi-national. Owing allegiance to the British crown. THAT is what makes him an illegal POTUS...a usurper. That he was born a, and continued to be a multi-national through much of his life. He might be a "citizen", but he never was a "natural born Citizen" that's required by the Constitution.

[Tennessee Nana]

Did Stan Ann ever know any men who didnt have visa problems ???

[spokeshave]

And how do we know that Sam Benson, an officer at the Southwest Immigration and Naturalization Service office in San Pedro, Calif....and one “W.L. Mix” are real people and not something added into the docs by 0bambi and his co-conspirators.

[so_real]

It's clear that while some in the media like to ridicule the "birther" issue...none of them dare touch the issue of Barry being born the subject to the crown of her majesty the Queen of England. It's his birthright, inherited from his foreign father. They won't touch that issue because they know it would be a losing proposition for them. Otherwise, they'd be all over that as well if they thought they could gain from it

100% agreed. And yet, the same media was all over McCain because he was born off the military base in the Panama Canal zone. Hypocrisy at its best.

[fastkelly]

When Sr. found she was pregnant he tried to get rid of her by ignoring her. But she knew his bullcrap story about being a decendent of the great 19th Century Kenyan Prophet, Johanwa Owalo, the founder of Kenya’s Nomiya Luo Church. So she traveled alone to Kenya to try convince the B.O. Sr. family that SHE was carrying the prophet’s decendent SON that the Luo had prophecised about. They told her she was crazy and to go home. Instead she went into labor and they had to take her to the local hospital.
Owalo is believed to be a prophet similar to Jesus Christ and Muhammad, and who in 1912 made the following prophecy about the United States: “So far have they [the United States] strayed into wickedness in those [future] times that their destruction has been sealed by my [father]. Their great cities will burn, their crops and cattle will suffer disease and death, their children will perish from diseases never seen upon this Earth, and I reveal to you the greatest [mystery] of all as I have been allowed to see that their [the United States] destruction will come about through the vengeful hands of one of our very own sons.”

[Fred Nerks]

One critical exchange is dated August 21, 1967, from Sam Benson, an officer at the Southwest Immigration and Naturalization Service office in San Pedro, Calif. Benson’s query stated, “There is nothing in the file to document the status of the spouse’s son. Please inquire into his citizenship and residence status and determine whether or not he is the applicant’s child within the meaning of Section 101(b)(1)(B) of the Act, who may suffer exceptional hardship within the meaning of Section 212(a).”

A response to Benson’s inquiry came from one “W.L. Mix” of the central immigration office, who determined Obama was a U.S. citizen.

Mix replied: “Pursuant to inquiry from central office regarding the status of the applicants’ spouse’s child by a former marriage.”

“The person in question is a United States citizen by virtue of his birth in Honolulu, Hawaii, Aug. 4, 1961. He is living with the applicants’ spouse in Honolulu, Hawaii. He is considered the applicant’s step-child, within the meaning of Sec. 101(b)(1)(B), of the act, by virtue of the marriage of the applicant to the child’s mother on March 5, 1965.”

The files do not state how the office determined Obama was born in Honolulu.

THE DIVORCE DOCUMENT WAS THE SOURCE! NO BIRTH CERTIFICATE SIGHTED?

NO PROOF OF A PREVIOUS MARRIAGE WAS PROVIDED? BOTTOM LINE: THE DIVORCE FROM THE KENYAN AWARDED CUSTODY TO STANLEY ANN DUNHAM OF AN UNIDENTIFIED CHILD.

[SatinDoll]

Wikipedia says they have no info on this guy, Johanwa Owalo.

Could you provide a source - anything! - for your statement?

[Fred Nerks]

'The wife in the Philippines from whom he is separated...'

Is not named. I think it's a mistake to assume that 'wife' was Stanley Ann Dunham. Who was ANNA OBAMA?

[Brown Deer]

http://www.firststonellc.com/JohanwaOwaloResearch.pdf

[SatinDoll]

Thank you for the link.

[Gena Bukin]

Moreover, in today’s WND article, Jerome Corsi concludes, as a result of reviewing all of the relevant INS documents, that if President Obama was born in Kenya, Dunham must have traveled there without Obama Sr., who was definitely in the US on August 4, 1961, according to these US Government records.

The whole "Kenyan birth" conspiracy was absurd from the very beginning. If one wants to argue Obama is ineligible on the basis of his foreign father, fine. I don't think this argument will ever bear fruit but at least there's something of an intellectual debate that can be had regarding what it means to be a natural born citizen. But to argue that Obama's teenage mom flew by herself halfway around the world to spawn the future President in a mud hut in Kenya is beyond ridiculous. It always has been and Farah did the issue a huge disservice with his pointless "Where's the Birth Certificate?" billboards.

[SvenMagnussen]

The significance of the SAD v BHO Sr divorce decree is custody was granted to SAD and child support provided by BHO Sr. is determined at a later time.

Meanwhile, SAD is petitioning the INS to allow her husband, Lolo Soetoro, to stay in the country because of it would cause her and her son a hardship.

The INS is inquiring about BHO’s II citizenship and the relationship he has with Lolo Soetoro because the status could effect the determination of hardship.

If the Soetoro adoption had been finalized in State Court, Lolo Soetoro would be the BHO’s II father and responsible for his financial support. Removing Soetoro from the country could lead to an inability to support the family.

As it turned out, the Soetoro adoption had not been completed and Lolo Soetoro was not responsible for BHO’s II financial support because he was still the step-father. A hardship could not be granted because SAD and BHO Sr. were the parents responsible for BHO’s II support.

After the Soetoro adoption was finalized, SAD Soetoro and Lolo Soetoro were listed on birth records as Barry Soetoro’s parents and solely responsible for his financial support. If SAD Soetoro had claimed a hardship having Lolo removed from the country after the adoption finalized, then she may have been able to keep Lolo in the country.

[ethical]

So the two forged “birth certificates” were just for fun?
Years of refusing to release it and then releasing two forgery's means that what he says, or his mother or his grandmother says, is truth? Then why fight it for three years, spend millions to keep it hidden and then produce two absolute forged documents? What do you do with all that deliberate lying and obfuscation Leo? Just let it go? Not me.