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Fox News Vs Palin: With Friends Like Fox News Palin Is Better Off With Her Enemies
Sheya ^ | 6/2/2011 | Sheya

Posted on 06/02/2011 10:48:06 AM PDT by Anamnesis

Recently we had a series of discussions with someone familiar with the inside dealings of Fox News regarding the way Fox News treats Governor Palin. While I don’t condone using anonymous sources (I usually make fun of those citing anonymous sources) unfortunately we can’t not reveal the source. So we have therefore gathered the evidence that will back up everything we were told and it’s up to the reader to come to his or her own conclusion. Whichever way you look at it, the evidence is astonishing on how Fox News is out to sabotage Governor Palin.

When Roger Ailes hired Governor Palin, he thought he was hiring a puppet. He thought that he would groom her, train her, educate her and prop her up to become his candidate for president and that he would be able to pull her strings. Sort of being to Sarah Palin what George Soros is to Barack Obama.

It didn’t take him long to find out that Governor Palin comes with no strings attached. No one tells her what to do, no one dictates to her, and no one controls her. Unlike the current occupant of the Oval Office, Governor Palin has a mind of her own.

In March 2010, when Governor Palin did Real American Stories, Fox News botched it up by using an interview with LL Cool J without asking him. They eventually took it out but it became an international controversy which took away from the effect of the show and hurt the Governor. Governor Palin didn’t take it sitting down and she confronted Fox about the debacle. Ailes didn’t take it lightly.

When Bill O’Reilly kept interrupting her interviews and finally Governor Palin confronted him on television, Bill’s ego was hurt and he didn’t like it. Governor Palin warned O’Reilly to behave or else.

In an article in the New York Mag Gabriel Sherman writes about Roger Ailes:

“He thinks things are going in a bad direction,” another Republican close to Ailes told me. “Roger is worried about the future of the country. He thinks the election of Obama is a disaster. He thinks Palin is an idiot. He thinks she’s stupid. He helped boost her up. People like Sarah Palin haven’t elevated the conservative movement.”

Fox of course stonewalled and came out and sort of denied it. The truth is that both are right. Ailes does not think Governor Palin is an idiot, far from it. He thinks Palin is shrewd. Though, as Sherman points out that “Fox’s PR department is notoriously strict when it comes to internal leaks,” Fox deliberately had that leaked in an attempt to kick Governor Palin in the shins. Ailes does believe that he helped boost her up and that she owes him her fame. He also believes that Palin is hurting the Fox brand.

It has been reported that before Governor Palin made the video in response to being accused of murder, she called Roger Ailes and asked for his advice. Governor Palin called a number of people and the advice was split; some told her to ignore it, others advised her that it would do her good to respond. Everyone she spoke to was well aware that she was simply reaching out to hear opinions and their advice was non-committal. Roger Ailes advised her to “lie low, there’s no need to inject yourself into the story”

After examining her options, Governor Palin decided to do the video. Ailes was disappointed that she didn’t take his advice. But why?

In an interview with Russell Simmons that was posted on the website, globalgrind.com, Ailes said in relation to the Arizona shooting that “I told all of our guys, shut up, tone it down, make your argument intellectually. You don’t have to do it with bombast. I hope the other side does that.” To protect the Fox brand, Ailes also wanted the network to distance itself from Palin who was the number one target of the left. Ailes feared that by Governor Palin’s association to the network, which was also somewhat targeted, Fox would be pulled into it even deeper.

It was at that point when Fox decided to throw Governor Palin under the bus. Ailes’ advice to Governor Palin had nothing to do with protecting her; it was all about protecting the Fox brand. Governor Palin realized that she was on her own and even those who she thought she could count on to defend her were about to stab her in the back. It was from that point onwards that Fox’s attitude towards Palin changed and in the following days every pundit on the network went from “Palin needs to respond” just a day before her video was released, to “Palin should have shut up” the next day. The day before the video was released Bill O’Reilly complained that he invited Palin on his show to respond, which he thought was important for her to do, but the next day argued she should have ignored it.

That was the turning point for Ailes where he decided that Governor Palin is not his candidate and that he’ll do whatever he can to make sure she isn’t. Ailes needed someone he could control and Governor Palin clearly wasn’t that person. Sometime in recent months the word went out internally that reporters, anchors and contributors should push the narrative that Palin isn’t running as hard they can. No matter what Palin says or does or what the polls say, the rule is simple “Palin isn’t running and everything she does is either for fun or for money”.

At the time of this posting we have mixed reports and cannot confirm whether the message came down as “this is the way we’re doing it” or if it came in by way of leading the staff to believe that management has information that Governor Palin was in fact not running. The difference comes down to whether the show hosts are being misled or are playing along.

Simultaneously, all the show hosts went from Governor Palin being a first tier candidate to Palin is not running. Chris Wallace went from Palin is a serious contender, to Palin isn’t running, Fox and Friends hosts went from being very much supportive of Palin to Palin isn’t running. Only this week on Tuesday did Steve Doocy, Gretchen Carlson and Brian Kilmeade discuss wehther Palin’s one nation bus tour was a sign that Governor Palin is running for president. Wednesday, Doocy said, “is she running, probably not.” Carlson appeared to be biting her tongue. It appeared they got the memo a little late. If by accident some contributor or host does suggest she may be running they quickly, turn it to “but she has no shot at winning”

At the time of writing this post the following appeared on the Fox News home page as the line of the night:

Fox went into high gear hyping Michele Bachmann. Not that Ailes thinks much of Bachmann (some suggest because Fox didn’t want to appear sexist, hyping another female candidate gives them cover), but it was to push a narrative that Palin is stepping on Bachmann’s toes. Never mind that Governor Palin was a potential candidate for nearly three years and the only reason Bachmann got in was because she saw an opening after the Arizona shooting. Ironically at the same time Ailes decided to throw Palin under the bus.

The facts speak for themselves. In my research for this article I was astonished at the level Fox stooped to diminish Palin. While this has been going on for weeks, this post can only be so long, the following examples are from the past seven days or so alone:

• When other politicians only jokingly say that they are thinking about running for president like they think about other stuff, Fox immediately runs with that person being a serious potential candidate. However when Palin does things that had any other candidate have done the exact same things Fox would have reported it as them seriously considering a run, with Palin it’s covered as her just building her brand.

• Usually when Fox does segments they try to keep it fair and balanced. They’ll usually bring on two people one from each side of the argument. Lately on segments related to Palin they’ll bring on one democrat who’ll claim Palin isn’t running and is doing it for money, while the republican or “supposedly” Palin defender will just agree with what the democrat said or slightly spin it in a different direction such as saying that Palin isn’t running and she’s playing for king maker role. Conservatives4Palin has reached out to Fox and offered to go on the network to defend and talk about the Governors record to balance those segments. While the person we spoke to was originally enthusiastic about the idea, Fox suddenly stopped responding to emails.

• On May 26 Gallup released a poll showing Palin effectively tied with Romney, while Fox displayed the poll on screen, during the segment Palin’s name didn’t even come up once, not even by accident. While all the other potential and non-potential candidates, even the completely irrelevant ones, were discussed at length.

• This week during Palin’s bus tour Fox had not on a single contributor who even remotely suggested that Palin may be running while even those who regularly defended Palin were beginning to take cheap shots at the Governor.

• The Bus tour itself was embargoed till Thursday (May 26th) 3pm but it was Fox news’s Carl Cameron who broke the embargo at noon.

• Bill O’Reilly had multiple segments this week discussing Governor Palin, he didn’t find it necessary to bring in even one person that would even remotely suggest that Palin may even be considering a run. He let Dick Morris get away with claiming that Palin has ADD, and allowed Charles Krauthammer, whose frame of reference about Palin is weak, go on and talk about a topic he knows nothing about.

• On Monday May 31st Fox news Special Report did a Bachmann vs palin poll and even though Palin led 71-28 Fox reported it that Bachmann was leading 55 to 45 the following snapshot was taken within 10 minutes of the results being announced.

• Every time Governor Palin does an interview on Fox, she’ll talk policy for 15 minutes and just at the end the host will ask some dumb question related to some controversial issue and that is the headline Fox will be running with, ignoring her substance and run with the trivia. Fox practically forced Governor Palin to come on to talk about the controversy surrounding the White House inviting the rapper common to the poetry ceremony. Something they would never have asked another potential presidential candidate to do.

• Fox has also been giving quite a bit of attention to the hit piece book by disgruntled Palin aid Frank Bailey. The book was mentioned on multiple segments on various shows. Bailey appeared on the Hannity show where he was excoriated by Sean Hannity, but he also appeared on Alan Colmes’ radio show. Colmes was sympathetic to Bailey. It was the Colmes interview that made it to the Fox website soon after it aired while the Hannity interview was posted 24 hours later.

And this is how the Fox Nation ran with the Bailey story. While generally supportive of Governor Palin, it leads with this rather damning paragraph:

A former member of Sarah Palin’s inner circle has written a scathing tell-all, saying Palin was ready to quit as governor months before she actually resigned and was eager to leave office when more lucrative opportunities came around.

Now for the revelation: Fox wants Palin out but they don’t want to suspend her contract because by doing so they’ll be conceding that she’s a serious contender. Fox won’t do anything that would lend her credibility. They just want her to resign. The tactic now is to make Palin’s life as difficult and as miserable as possible until Palin just gets frustrated and leaves on her own citing irreconcilable differences. Things are going to get worse. Fox is about to up the ante and it’s going to get ugly.

While the entire Fox cast, reporters and contributors alike, have all teamed up, by leading or being misled, to sabotage Governor Palin, the Governor does have two friends at the network: Sean Hannity and Greta van Susteren. They still defend her and take her seriously. It is for this reason that while Fox is increasingly reducing Governor Palin’s appearances on the network, the Governor is mostly only doing interviews with Hannity and Greta.

Yesterday Governor Palin met with her bosses at Fox News. While we are not aware of what went on in that meeting and what if anything came of it, in a statement executive vice president of programming Bill Shine said “Right now there is no change in her status with FOX News.” Ben Smith makes an interesting observation:

The “right now” didn’t appear in earlier statements.

Hopefully Ben is on to something and the “right now” is short lived. Governor Palin doesn’t need this crap, it’s time for her to leave Fox News so she can freely do what she wants to do, that is talk to other networks who, even though they trash her all day, at least they take her as a serious threat and presidential contender.


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To: curth

As for Rove, Krauthammer, Williams , O’Reilly, Bob Beckel, Alan Colmes, Geraldo and a few others, I’m not a big fan either.

As for Juan Williams, I believe it can be said that he is one of the least objectionable Leftists out there. He will disagree with you, but he will also listen and agree that his side has screwed up on occasion. You’re not going to get that level of openness from a Leftist very often. If Fox is going to have a Leftist, he’s the one I’d want. When Hannity had Colmes on with him, it seemed to me that Colmes was not as vile as some other people were.

Could Colmes rattle off some disgusting rants? Heck yes. None the less, Hannity was capable of shooting it down. And that served a purpose. People would hear the Leftist argument, in most cases not represented very well, and then the premise would be shot down. That was a good thing.

Now that Holmes is not on opposite Hannity, he’s a real mess. He’s terrible. I wish they’d quit having him on.

I’ve never thought Hannity to be the sharpest pencil in the box either, but he was adequate for Holmes most nights.

I detest Rove. Beckel, Geraldo, gag me. Krauthammer and O’Reilly mean well, but they’re both gas-bags, proving themselves to be clueless more often than not. That still doesn’t mean that each are incapable of rattling off a sound theory once in a while.

So yes, some of these people shouldn’t be trusted ever. Others can be on occasion. All of them will wear you out waiting for sound comments to come along. So no, I don’t tune in to them either as a general rule.

BTW, you forgot Shep Smith. Seldom have I seen a more vacant talking head. He does damage to our cause regularly. I have relatives that love him. When I hear this, I groan.

CNN has one guy on that makes Shep Smith look like a genius. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a more clueless bastard, and I’m not even talking about politics. He tries to be campy when talking about news matters, and just comes off as a loose wing-nut even then.

Thanks for the comments.


101 posted on 06/02/2011 2:52:19 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Tell me you haven't asked yourself what mistake Obama made, that wound up causing Laden's death?)
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To: sickoflibs

Is Beck about to leave FoxNews? I’m watching his show right now.


102 posted on 06/02/2011 2:55:07 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Tell me you haven't asked yourself what mistake Obama made, that wound up causing Laden's death?)
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To: wagglebee

Since you’re the resident troll, why don’t you tell me?


103 posted on 06/02/2011 3:02:06 PM PDT by cartervt2k (...and they cling to their abortions and their global warming religion)
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To: cartervt2k

Just FYI, I have been called several times by polling creeps. I NEVER tell them I am a Palin supporter. And I know others who don’t either. Why? Because when she announces, we are going to come out swinging and knock their friggin’ socks off. THAT’S why. It’s a strategy, doncha know. And if you don’t believe it, just watch.


104 posted on 06/02/2011 3:03:00 PM PDT by MestaMachine (If you want to pillage,plunder,destroy, blaspheme,or defile, become a muslim, or name yourself obama)
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To: death2tyrants

I would vote for Palin over Emperor Hussein, but it would be a waste of time since she would definitely lose and probably lose big.

The silver lining (such that it would be) would be that I’d come back here and see people like you wringing your hands like you don’t know what happened, and I will say, “you nominated a reality TV star, and now we have 4 more years of Obama - thanks for nothing”. This is not a scenario that I want, but it is the realistic scenario, if she is the nominee.

To the extent I would support Romney over Palin to beat Obama is the extent I can read polling data - data which shows him comfortably ahead of the Emperor in Florida and New Hampshire, which means we only have to pick off one more swing state to win.


105 posted on 06/02/2011 3:10:45 PM PDT by cartervt2k (...and they cling to their abortions and their global warming religion)
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To: sickoflibs

I like Cavuto and Dobbs. BOR is a sell out. Hannity is dumb.


106 posted on 06/02/2011 3:11:53 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (For love of Sarah, our country and the American Way of Life.)
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To: Anamnesis

Gabriel Sherman

This looks like the same recycled article he tried earlier.

Tueday's big New York profile on Ailes and Fox by Gabriel Sherman quotes an anonymous source described as ‘Republican close to Ailes’ saying “Roger is worried about the future of the country. He thinks the election of Obama is a disaster. He thinks Palin is an idiot. He thinks she’s stupid. He helped boost her up. People like Sarah Palin haven’t elevated the conservative movement.”

There’s a lot to chew on within Gabriel Sherman’s monster New York magazine article on Fox News, but most interesting are the doubts that Fox News chief Roger Ailes has about the Republican 2012 presidential field he has done so much to shape.

In a statement to The New York Times, the Fox News Channel executive vice president of programming, Bill Shine, said:

“I know for a fact that Roger Ailes admires and respects Sarah Palin and thinks she is smart. He also believes many members of the left-wing media are extremely terrified and threatened by her. Despite a massive effort to destroy Sarah Palin, she is still on her feet and making a difference in the political world. As for the ‘Republican close to Ailes’ for which the incorrect Palin quote is attributed, when Roger figures out who that is, I guarantee you he or she will no longer be ‘close to Ailes.’ ”

More Here

107 posted on 06/02/2011 3:13:05 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: curth

Fox ratings have got to be fqlling. They have completely forsaken reporting on Conservative politics.


108 posted on 06/02/2011 3:14:49 PM PDT by Louis Foxwell (For love of Sarah, our country and the American Way of Life.)
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To: cartervt2k

Tell your little story about being comfortably ahead in FLA to rudy. You know what? This is JUNE 2011. Ain’t nobody that comfortable....yet.


109 posted on 06/02/2011 3:15:40 PM PDT by MestaMachine (If you want to pillage,plunder,destroy, blaspheme,or defile, become a muslim, or name yourself obama)
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To: MestaMachine

Tell your little story to Sharron Angle about how Dingy Harry is so unpopular, anybody we nominate can beat him.


110 posted on 06/02/2011 3:22:02 PM PDT by cartervt2k (...and they cling to their abortions and their global warming religion)
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To: cartervt2k

So now you switch to election fraud and dirty money? With dem weasels, that’s a given. And THAT is why Palin will do this her way, not your way, or their way, or anyone else’s way. She is a winner.


111 posted on 06/02/2011 3:34:59 PM PDT by MestaMachine (If you want to pillage,plunder,destroy, blaspheme,or defile, become a muslim, or name yourself obama)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

Fox doesn’t bother me. I haven’t had a TV since 88.


112 posted on 06/02/2011 3:53:12 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: cartervt2k
Project much troll?

IATZ!

113 posted on 06/02/2011 4:06:18 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: calex59

The last Company I worked for and amicably retired early from at age 52. I quit twice and was fired once, but each time I was brought back, with substantial raises each time.

Know I made it difficult for immediate supervisors and did not suffer fools gladly. But, I did make and save considerable money for the company, so I guess the bottom line was, the almighty $ made the difference and trumped faults.


114 posted on 06/02/2011 4:06:18 PM PDT by Sea Parrot
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To: Anamnesis
Interesting. The FNC pundit panel (including Brett Baer) just discussed Sarah Palin as being the latest JOKE.

I wouldn't put it past Bill O'Reilly to demand this sort of thing. Perhaps there was an O'Reilly rant that went something like this: "How dare she tell me I keep interrupting her?! I'm your cash cow! I'm the one who got an interview with Barack Obama! I am Fox News! You had better do something about that woman NOW."

115 posted on 06/02/2011 4:08:17 PM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: wagglebee

What did he get zotted for?


116 posted on 06/02/2011 4:11:27 PM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: Cicero
"The interesting question is whether Roger Ailes is behind these attacks on Palin, or thought that he could manipulate her like a puppet.

BOR is simply behaving him like himself. Nobody needs to instruct him how to make himself obnoxious—he does it by nature.

It seems to me that Fox could have let Palin go when they let two other potential candidates go."


I find the unsubstantiated speculation in this post to be absurd. If Ailes wanted Sarah to be a puppet and then found out that she would not be one, he most certainly would have let her go by now.




"Does Roger Ailes want to be the Soros of the right? I find that hard to believe. What he has done best is make money for Fox News by doing what’s needed to increase their ratings. Hiring Palin certainly made sense from that point of view."


That assessment makes a lot more sense. I have even heard speculation that he is eying her to be Glenn Beck's replacement and that the current "tour" is meant to gin up a ton of PR leading to such an announcement. Of course that is mere speculation as well, but it is logical given Ailes' business interest.
117 posted on 06/02/2011 4:14:25 PM PDT by rob777
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To: wagglebee

I could see that one coming.


118 posted on 06/02/2011 4:14:47 PM PDT by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: cartervt2k

Polls are merely a snapshot for any given time, they have little or no bearing for next week, month or year.

Polls also boost the latest hot candidate du jour to the top, only to have them flop rapidly from sight after their warts become visible.


119 posted on 06/02/2011 4:19:17 PM PDT by Sea Parrot
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To: Pan_Yan
The troll was pushing the idea that Palin supporters were actually trying to get Zero reelected.
120 posted on 06/02/2011 4:19:57 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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