Posted on 05/24/2011 11:44:34 AM PDT by CainMutiny
[UPDATE BELOW, AUDIO FOUND] WND's Dr. Jerome Corsi stated on the Bill Cunningham Radio Show that he's going to 'file criminal charges against the White House' over the latest birth certificate forgery. I listened to the live show and then went back to the radio station website to download the show podcast and lo and behold the interview with Dr. Corsi was scrubbed from the show podcast. I think maybe Bill O'Reilly gave them some tips on scrubbing show podcasts... ;-)
The radio station in question is Cincinnati's 700 WLW which is owned by none other than Clear Channel Communications, which, by the way, is the parent company of Clear Channel Outdoor who refused to erect World Net Daily's 'Where's the Birth Certificate?' billboards two years back.
(Excerpt) Read more at obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com ...
I don’t think that’s how our justice system works. The prosecutor is just a delegate, a deputy of sorts.
Anybody can file a criminal charge against anybody else, afaik. But if the local jurisdictions don’t agree to go along with it, you would have to be ready to act as prosecutor yourself. And the odds are the court would take one look at it and toss it in the trash right quick...
thanks for posting this. i read the letter indicating possible tampering. but i didn’t know the initial inquiry was from the US Ambassador.
...seems a lot of people had honest questions, like the trolls here ridicule us for even asking.
(and Satindoll gives a great summary of WHY the right to question is so important.)
Hmmm, that's interesting. I wonder if maybe what you mean is that anyone can file a criminal complaint? There might be a big difference here between "complaint" and "charges".
Either way, Corsi isn't going to get anywhere with this stuff.
“(and Satindoll gives a great summary of WHY the right to question is so important.)”
You are welcome. Bush's ambassador in Kenya was a “birther” who asked “Where's the birth certificate?” I doubt the ambassador would have made such a request without approval of at least Sec.of State Condi and probably Bush as well. That would make them likely “birthers” too.
The problem was that the Obama “clean-up crew” beat them to it.
Three points:
1. We do not, however, know whether the “intelligence reports” that the secret government investigation refers to were based on documents that the spooks of various nations, including the US, may have obtained.
2. We do not know the outcome of the Kenyan secret 2008 investigation to find out who corrupted the birth records and whether they eventually found the BC.
3. At the time of the July 4, 2008 US Ambassador inquiry and Kenyan investigations in October 2008, Obama had already "released" the HI short form COLB in June 2008! Neither the Ambassador nor the Kenyans gave much credibility to that BC, it would seem.
Okay while I've gained some newfound respect that at least the Bush Admn TRIED to do something....at the same time....why didn't they make this public for God's sake? Force Obama's hand BEFORE the election?
Shaking my head here.
Yes but the million dollar prize is that the Kenyan birth records are now KNOWN to have been tampered with in the YEARS SURROUNDING OBAMA’S BIRTH. Not maybe, if, sort of, perhaps these records were tampered with: CONFIRMED they were tampered with. And the U.S. Ambassador at the time, along with Secretary Rice, and Bush knew it.
Now why would anyone do that if Obama were legit? What would be the purpose? Too coincidental IMO. Its looking like you would have to have the IQ of a slug to not see there is something going on here.
Well, first, let me state emphatically I am not an attorney.
But this is my understanding:
Anybody can go to the police and file a “criminal complaint”. They take the info, and then give it to the prosecutor, who decides if he wants to go forward with it.
If he decides to go forward, he files “criminal charges” with the court.
There are two important things:
Number one, the prosecutor, even though he is an “officer of the court” (as all attorneys are), is an independent entity. Just as the defendant is an independent entity. The theory is that the court pays no special attention to one side or the other, it is supposed to be unbiased in every way.
The other thing is the court doesn’t (at first) know anything about a case. It sees ONLY the paperwork that is in front of it. If the paperwork is proper, then the court does not have the power to ignore it. It MUST take some action.
Now there are courts of special jurisdiction and courts of general jurisdiction. It might be that if J6P wants to file criminal CHARGES against someone, he would have to go to a court of general jurisdiction.
Once again, in a sense I’m rambling on. But I know that there are times when you don’t need any kind of attorney, for instance if you ended up in the hoosegow you could yourself write a habeas corpus, hand it to the court clerk, and it’s in. They have to do something.
Errr, when did Corsi become a prosecutor? How can he file “criminal charges”? Sounds like Corsi is spewing more loopy nonsense.
Ever heard of a whistleblower? You go before the Attorney General of Hawaii and file a criminal complaint, with media in tow of course.
Corsi has insiders working at the HDOH who alerted him several weeks prior to the April 27th release that a forgery was being produced.
So there must be someone on the scene in Hawaii who is willing to step up.
Not everyone in the FBI was appointed by Harrison Bounel.
That's alright, thanks for thinking out loud about it. You gave me enough to information to look further into it. I might learn something from the discussion. Thanks again.
Your making that assumption, but I think your wrong. I don't think any prosecutor in Hawaii (or anywhere else) is going to "step up". My guess is Obama having released that long form BC really put a massive dent in Corsi's projected book sales, and now he, Farah and WND will say almost any crazy thing to get attention. I mean, come on, Corsi goes on Alex Jones claiming there is a smiley face secret code and that Donald Trump was in on the whole conspiracy. It doesn't get much more bizarre than that.
Yes. And let the Hawaii AG explain why its normal for a 1961 BC to have computer copied text and graphics.
Or, better yet, skip Hawaii, and take the BC to another state and have the AG and State Secretary there examine it, show the computer generated components, and publicly declare it a forgery and of no value in the state. Texas would be a good start. Then move to the next state and do the same.
You obviously didn’t comprehend what I was saying. Corsi mentioned that he has several contacts inside the HDOH working there. They alerted him to the fact that a forgery was being prepared and was utlimately placed into Obama’s file.
These people are the whistleblowers. They go with the media in tow together with Tim Adam’s affadavit and claim a criminal act has taken place.
They might even want to take the lone Republican State Senator of Hawaii as well to the AG’s office and make a big presence.
Note that the confirmation of the tampering and the search for the perps was SECRET within the Kenyan Gov’t and was dated October 2008. The Kenyan gov’t reply to the US (Condi, Bush) did not include the confirmation that the docs were missing but rather a statement they couldn't confirm one way or the other.
The Kenyans could have thrown a wrench in the US election, but then they wouldn't have had the potential to blackmail Obama. Obama was reported this week to have given Kenya $700 million so far, IIRC (big jump in foreign aid).
The Obama “incriminating document destruction team” had from 2004 beginning with his wildly received teleprompter performance up until Feb 2007 when he announced for 2008 to find and destroy or place in friendly, bribed or intimidated hands any adverse records.
If I'm a Citizen in Texas and I know the BC has been forged, and can prove it, I can report it to the state. I can then publish my findings and mail it everyone in the state. If enough people in the state or county then demand it, it will need to be examined and ruled on by a Judge.
We are in new territory with Harrison Bounel.
Taking this to Hawaii or the Feds would probably not work. Getting Harrison Bounel off the ballot would be better.
Corsi’s document forgery accusation against AP reporter Mark Niesse, and the subsequent response by Danny Spriggs, Vice President, AP Global Security, may indicate that the traditional media outlets who have a working relationship with AP are concerned about possible liability of having Corsi repeat those accusations on their shows.
Just my opinion, but this is one that I don't think Corsi will be able to wiggle out of. I believe he's about to be seriously sued.
How about a Grand Jury taking this case ?
These people are the whistleblowers. They go with the media in tow together with Tim Adam’s affadavit and claim a criminal act has taken place.
They might even want to take the lone Republican State Senator of Hawaii as well to the AG’s office and make a big presence.
Right, but I don't believe anything Corsi says at this point. I don't believe he has real contacts in the HDOH that are telling him this. If he does, they are feeding him a load of crap.
I don't believe there are any real whistleblowers, I don't think they will go to the media together, I don't believe the lone Republican State Senator will go to the AG's office, and from what little I know about Tim Adam's the Honolulu Clerks office disputed he had access to what he was claiming he did.
In short, I think the entire birther conspiracy theory is an utter load of bull.
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