Posted on 02/22/2011 10:46:07 AM PST by rxsid
"Dr. Ronald Polland: Obama's Two Minute Warning; Factcheck.org Forged Obama's Birth Certificate
Game over, Barack Obama. This 2-minute video will destroy your birth certificate fraud.
You were not born here. You are not a US citizen. Your FORGED BIRTH CERTIFICATE, fabricated by Annenberg Factcheck, proves you are a liar, a fraud, an imposter, and an illegal alien.
The FIRST EIGHT SECONDS of this video buries your rabid liberal media in their own lies.
They demanded that conservatives accept what the Hawaii Governor said about you and your birth certificate.
We do - now you and your gullible supporters must do likewise.
The former Governor said that requesting a Presidential candidate to show his or her birth certificate to prove eligibility is a legitimate question for Congress.
Mr. Obama - or whatever your is real name - you had seven years to prove who you are, and you refused to do so.
Obama must go, NOW. - Dr. Ronald Polland - Source.
YouTube Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTgAuVFo7iU&feature=player_embedded"
From: http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2011/02/dr-ronald-polland-obamas-two-minute.html
Flashback from the Right Side of Life; - Meet the only 2 people to ever "examine" Obama's SHORT-FORM COLB's. -
The two FactCheck.org employees who were granted access to Obama’s bogus Certification of Live Birth (COLB) are NOT document examiners or experts. Joe Miller has a Ph. D. in Political Philosophy — so he’s a political operative — while Jess Henig has an M.A. in English Literature — I’m not sure her dye-job is a political or esthetic statement.They are a couple of partisan Obots — just what you’d expect — Jess took the photos presented on their webpage and did all of the writing, while Bob basically held the COLB open for Jess to photograph — suitable work for a Ph. D.
Those two are completely unqualified to perform any kind of forensic examination of any document, and FactCheck.org knows it — and so do Henig and Miller.
FactCheck does say their, “representatives got a chance to spend some time with the ‘birth certificate,’ and we can attest to the fact that it is real and three-dimensional and resides at the Obama headquarters in Chicago.” In my mind, that clearly shows they were working with and for the Obama Campaign and that Obama and his people are involved in this lie. Much more here.
And this; - Blogger manipulates birth certificate image, undermining Obama claims - Jay McKinnon, a self-described Department of Homeland Security-trained document specialist, has implicated himself in the production of palpably fake Hawaii birth certificate images similar to the one endorsed as genuine by the Barack Obama campaign, and appearing on the same Daily Kos blog entry where the supposedly authentic document appears. Much more here and here.
But if they had access to the security paper, why would they do the "simple Photoshop job" first? Why not just print a fake COLB to begin with?
For me, a conspiracy theory has to make at least as much sense as the one it's supposed to replace. This one doesn't.
He doesn’t work for anyone. He’s just a small person who tries to make himself feel big by posting repetitiously on ‘birfer’ threads. Many of us have learned to ignore him. He is not an honest person, and it’s impossible to have a fair, open and constructive dialogue with a dishonest person.
You give the liberals to much credit for having common sense.
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That’s why newspapers publish a “corrections” section. Second hand sources sometimes get stuff wrong.
Queen Kapiolani of Hawaii: http://www.hawaiiforvisitors.com/monarchy/queen-kapiolani.htm
That’s why newspapers publish a “corrections” section. Second hand sources sometimes get stuff wrong.
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So where’s the correction you mentioned???
For my part, I am going to email this link to my local (Las Vegas) Fox, CBS, NBC, and PBS TV stations. I encourage all patriotic Freepers to forward this, too, before it diappears.
Most non-liberals who have observed Obama for more than fifteen minutes notice that if his lips are moving he’s most likely lying. Since you’re posting on FR, a conservative website, you’ve no doubt noticed Obama’s pathological lying. Doesn’t it follow that if he’s lied about everything else [as Corsi and Cashill have so recently and effectively documented], he lied about his BC too?
Liar
Onaka Has never confirmed or denied that Hawaii DOH Produced the COLB. He is the one man in Hawaii that Obama cannot buy or blackmail.
He has NEVER AUTHENTICATED BHO’s Hawaii Birth certificate. He has stuck to HIPA throughout, and just done his job.
jamese777 you sound like you work for Obama or his proxies and your consistent spouting of talking points, over time, reads like you have a script written in Chicago.
The 2005 PowerPoint just proves that Onaka is a technical expert in his field.
Little Jameseeeee7777777 is a willy nilly OBot poster. A script right out of Chicago would not be a surprise.
Circular argument.
But any way. I’ve always argued that if this was true, Clinton would have known in the Primary and skewered him.
I dont know how long you’ve followed conservative politics, but before there was Obama there was the Clinton machine. The Clinton machine was heart of darkness, Vince Foster, disappearing and re-apprearing documents, dead Ron Brown evil.
No way the Clintons missed a bone-head Campaign 101 opp-research item like eligibility.
But if you are anywhere near right, do you think that there are any incriminating original documents and they haven’t been replaced by PERFERCT fakes. If your argument is solid, this guy beat the CLINTONS. No way you catch him. Not with an analysis of a video screen assessment of an image released on a liberal web-page.
Exmil_UK is correct that Hawaii has never verified that DailyKOS or that “FactCheck” Obama COLB, which was put on the Internet.
And what we found out from Goober AberCrummie is that there is no birth certificate that was initiated by a doctor or a Hawaiian hospital. Nada, it don’t exist.
And we see FUkino was playing word games about what “is” a “birth certificate” in her Oct 31st, 2008 statement.
A “notation” written in a log or other scribble on a piece of paper is not a original birth certificate. Give it up OBot.
Here is an Inspector General report on Birth Certificate Fraud from 2000.
http://oig.hhs.gov/oei/reports/oei-07-99-00570.pdf
Some good tid bits that apply or could apply to the infamous COLB computer image are in here....
Page 5:
It was the consensus of those we interviewed that a number of State practices create opportunities for fraud. Those practices include the following:
- delayed, amended, and midwife birth registrations that are based on affidavits of personal knowledge, include no documentary evidence, and are not often marked or overlaid accordingly;
(The date filed is 4 days after the fact in the COLB. Considered a late submission.)
Also page 5:
“Virtually all of the Federal and State agency staff we talked with indicate birth certificate fraud is seldom prosecuted unless it can be linked to large dollar losses or other punishable crimes. Most staff also indicate that many prosecutors are reluctant, or refuse to take birth certificate fraud cases in which the only charge is attempting to obtain another individual’s birth certificate, or counterfeiting or altering a birth certificate. At the same time, misconceptions exist surrounding the security and integrity of birth certificates.”
(So much for that prosecution a frequent poster here keeps calling for.)
“Birth Certificates Alone do not Provide Conclusive or Reliable Proof of Identity”
(maybe all those state bills need some beefing up.)
Page 12:
“A Birth Certificate is Proof Only that a Birth Occurred and was Recorded. It is important to recall the intended purpose of a birth certificate — to certify that a birth was documented and recorded. For that purpose, it is not unreasonable that State laws allow public access to these records. Efforts to restrict access to birth certificates would diminish their value for the purpose they were originally designed to serve.”
(So why the secret Hawaii? The IG says that when done properly the public SHOULD have access to a BC.)
Page 20:
“Not all States include information with birth certificates about the documentary evidence they accept as proof a birth occurred, and upon which delayed registrations are allowed, with delayed birth certificates. Likewise, the documentary evidence required to register delayed births is inconsistent among States. Forty-seven States accept affidavits of personal knowledge as proof a birth occurred, and 14 include no abstract of documentary evidence when issuing delayed birth certificates.”
(47 States accept affidavits of personal knowledge! Swear it happened - get a BC, or COLB. Hawaii is probably in that 47.)
Page 22:
“With the exception of one State (Connecticut), primary vital records registrars responding to our survey say their offices match death and birth registrations and that they send information regarding deaths occurring in their State to the States in which the deceased individuals were born.”
(Remember where Obama’s primary (he has a lot) Soc Sec number came from - Connecticut. The ONLY state that does not match death/birth registrations with other states.)
Page 31:
Number of States issuing full photocopy of Birth Record - 51
(since they cite more state than states this shows - HAWAII WILL ISSUE A REAL PHOTOCOPY IF YOU WANT IT. To say they ONLY issue a Computerized copy (i.e. COLB) is a lie.)
Number of State issue computerized abstract - 37
(Yes, a lot of states will issue their version of a COLB also.)
There is table of security features and there use by state.
Here is the list and the number of state using the feature for computerized abstracts as list above (a total of 37 states issue computerized abstracts.)
Watermarks - 25
Intaglio -20
Serial Numbers - 34
Steel Engraved Borders - 19
Ultraviolet Ink - 13
Security Threads - 13
Micro-Line Printing - 28
Substrate Paper or Ink - 14
(Does Hawaii use ANY of these techniques? It appears not.)
You don’t know the difference between a circular and an inductive argument.
I do.
Clinton was between a rock and a hard place. If she’d tried to disqualify Obama, the black and even some liberal-white-guilters would have turned on her. She did get Sec of State, though, didn’t she?
She is speaking for Onaka, its heresay.
......have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.......
So they have his original BC, that must not be a long form you said they destroyed them in 2001 and you cant get a copy..Right? So what exactly do they have and what does it say? What state policy and procedures are they talking about, the ones for witnessed births,hospital births, or those claiming Hawaiian birth based on past residency not location? What does date filed and date accepted mean?
One must ask why Fukino, Okubo, and Lingle appeared to vouch for the facts asserted on the CoLB Zero released, instead of shutting up and citing HIPA or maybe forwarding their file to the Bush Justice Department.
Either the Hawaii officials told the truth, in which case there was no need for Obama to forge the document, or the officials are bought and paid for, in which case, being state officials, they should be able to produce an undetectable forgery as part of services rendered! To forge the document as the birthers claim would be futile. Sooner or later, Hawaii would nail him on it.
Given some legislation proposed in some states, Obama may yet end up handing that document to one or more secretaries of state in order to get on the 2012 ballot in the states in question. They will either accept the document at face value, or it will go to court, and a judge will order them to accept it, the burden of proof being not on Obama, but on the birthers.
BTW, interesting link: http://barackryphal.blogspot.com/2009/07/meet-ronald-jay-polland.html
Hey troll you didn’t respond to my point, apparently you don’t know diddly squat about document security measures.
As for Alvin Onaka he did not authenticate Obama’s as you say “Birth Certificate”.
Quit lying you useless little LEMMING.
“Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally SEEN and VERIFIED that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.”
http://hawaii.gov/health/about/pr/2008/08-93.pdf
There is only one “Registrar of Vital Statistics” in the state of Hawai’i and that gentleman’s name is Alvin T. Onaka, Ph.D.
“The state of Hawai’i has said that President Obama was born there. That’s good enough for me.”—Congressman John Boehner, Speaker of the House
Abercrombie's interview in the Hawaiian Star Advertiser:
"Written down"?? LoL.
We have not seen Obama’s birth certificate, so how can it be confirmed as valid by anyone???
All we have seen is a digital COLB on partisan websites that amount to nothing more than political advertising making certain claims that may not be true.
Even Abercrombie after his extensive investigation could only muster a statement that Obama’s birth is “written down somewhere” in the states archives. Egads!!!
After 7 years he is still unable to provide any tangible evidence that Barack Huseein Obama II was born in Hawaii, and he won’t be providing it anytime soon.
Here’s how a US District Court Judge appointed by President George W. Bush put it in ruling on an Obama Eligibility Lawsuit:
“The Court observes that the President defeated seven opponents in a grueling campaign for his party’s nomination that lasted more than eighteen months and cost those opponents well over $300 million. Then the President faced a formidable opponent in the general election who received $84 million to conduct his general election campaign against the President. It would appear that ample opportunity existed for discovery of evidence that would support any contention that the President was not eligible for the office he sought.
Furthermore, Congress is apparently satisfied that the President is qualified to serve. Congress has not instituted impeachment proceedings, and in fact, the House of Representatives in a broad bipartisan manner has rejected the suggestion that the President is not eligible for office.
See H.R. Res. 593, 111th Cong. (2009) (commemorating, by vote of 378-0, the 50th anniversary of Hawaii’s statehood and stating, “the 44th President of the United States, Barack Obama, was born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961”).”
The Judge went on to say in his ruling that: “A spurious charge questioning the President’s legitimacy may be protected by the First Amendment. But a Court’s placement of its imprimatur upon a charge that is so lacking in factual support that it is frivolous would undoubtedly disserve the public interest.”
US District Court Judge Clay R. Land, Middle District of Georgia, “Rhodes v MacDonald.”
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