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Dr. Ronald Polland: Obama's Two Minute Warning; Factcheck.org Forged Obama's Birth Certificate
obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com ^ | 02/22/2010 | ObamaRelease YourRecords

Posted on 02/22/2011 10:46:07 AM PST by rxsid

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To: Kleon
It seems like a common occurrence.

This has been shown to occur on one and only one "Certification of Birth" that you believe is from the State of Hawaii. How is that a common occurrence?
81 posted on 02/22/2011 5:44:41 PM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
I'm not convinced anybody did anything.

So you believe it was created out of thin air?
82 posted on 02/22/2011 5:46:40 PM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
For me, a conspiracy theory has to make at least as much sense as the one it's supposed to replace.

The problem with your statement, is that is not a theory, it is a proven fact.
83 posted on 02/22/2011 5:50:54 PM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: rolling_stone

She is speaking for Onaka, its heresay.

......have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.......

So they have his original BC, that must not be a long form you said they destroyed them in 2001 and you cant get a copy..Right? So what exactly do they have and what does it say? What state policy and procedures are they talking about, the ones for witnessed births,hospital births, or those claiming Hawaiian birth based on past residency not location? What does date filed and date accepted mean?


Dr. Onaka can be deposed and subpoenaed to testify under oath at any time as to whether he accompanied Dr. Fukino to view the Obama birth certificate or not and he can speak for himself as to what he saw, if anything. Thus far, no one has deposed him or subpoenaed him.

Dr. Onaka can provide expert testimony, eyewitness testimony and corroborating testimony. He can address any and all of the questions you have posed to a congressional committee, to a grand jury, to a civil court judge, to a criminal court judge and to a jury.


84 posted on 02/22/2011 5:52:56 PM PST by jamese777
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To: Red Steel

Little Jameseeeee7777777 is a willy nilly OBot poster. A script right out of Chicago would not be a surprise.


Cute, but irrelevant.


85 posted on 02/22/2011 5:55:10 PM PST by jamese777
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To: Hotlanta Mike; jamese777

It seems that jamese777 cannot read. It was 0bama that stated he was born at Queens, not the newspaper.

lol, I’m not sure what the picture of Queen Kapiolani has to do with it.


86 posted on 02/22/2011 5:55:18 PM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: circumbendibus; rxsid; Danae; butterdezillion
circumbendibus,

I'm always grateful to see people taking steps to try to get more attention paid to the eligibility and birth certificate issues.

Please consider indulging me a word of caution on pointing others to the content of this particular video. In my opinion, Polland's (Polarik's) arguments tend to be based on some of the murkiest and least compelling points of "evidence." I don't mean to dismiss his work. I don't even consider my self as having patiently waded through all the tedious fine details that Polarik draws upon in sufficient fashion to render a final conclusion.

Still, this particular video leaves questions in my mind about things like whether the incriminating shadows may be emphasized as a result of some image filter applied or, as other have said, compression artifacts that arise in some image formats or any of other unknown combinations of intervening peculiarities that could have been a part of the imaging technologies used to give us these images.

My main point is that in general the media has been unwilling to carefully evaluate the "low-hanging fruit" with regard to doubts about the Birth Certificate, so it's hard for me to imagine that many in the media will be straining through hours of intense study on digital imaging analysis to find a deeply hidden or esoteric nugget of truth that is damning to Obama's birth narrative assertions.

If anything I can't help but wonder if the typical journalist wouldn't respond to this by thinking, "What? Is this the best argument the birthers have? There's probably not much to this. And yet this arrogant Polland guy acts like impeachment is merely a formality once we see his work?" I think there are a number of much more obvious, much more compelling arguments that are easy picking and should take precedence over Polland's work, although I really don't want to spit upon all the work he has done for a cause that I deeply believe in.

For what I regard as the more obvious, less technocentric arguments, if you haven't already, please take a look at Mario Apuzzo's excellent Catalog of Evidence which references document forensics as a relatively small part of a long lost list of arguments. Also, I have benefited from and recommend reading stuff from The Western Center For Journalism, Alan Keyes, Leo Donofrio, Butterdezillion, Danae and Jack Cashill on this.

At the end of the day, if this Polland video is the only thing that is currently motivating you to get in touch with the media, then please don't neglect that on the basis of what I'm saying, but if you should happen to find a more readily available, easily researchable argument, let me suggest that it might improve your chances of getting more people in the media to recognize that this is a matter of genuine importance.

Humbly submitted for your consideration.

87 posted on 02/22/2011 5:56:56 PM PST by ecinkc (Wouldn't a congressman have tangible interest enough to pry the Long-Form from the HDOH?)
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To: jamese777
Cute, but irrelevant.

I haven't seen a photo of you, so I cannot comment on the first part of your statement about yourself, but I certainly agree that you are irrelevant.
88 posted on 02/22/2011 5:57:43 PM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Fantasywriter; Little Pharma
As has been alluded to, the Clinton's may be evil to our Constitutional Republic, but they aren't stupid.

The first "black" President and the first female co-President were not about to dis their loyal base in an attempt to out the first real black (who's really only < 50% black) candidate with a "legitimate" shot at being POTUS. Coupled with the signs of the coming economic tsunami, Billary wouldn't move to play that (perceived by many on the left) ultimate race card for the world to see.

Besides, Hillary knows who a "natural born Citizen" is...having co-sponsored non-binding Senate resolution 511 which stated McCain was a NBC because he was born to two citizen parentS.

She know's full well Barry isn't a "natural born Citizen."

89 posted on 02/22/2011 6:03:55 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: Little Pharma; Fantasywriter

No way the Clintons missed a bone-head Campaign 101 opp-research item like eligibility.


The Clintoons missed the 20 year long association with jeremiah Wright didn’t they. That alone would have sunk him. Sorry, the preprations were already begun as early as 2004 for the usurper.


90 posted on 02/22/2011 6:05:18 PM PST by Hotlanta Mike (TeaNami)
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To: Red Steel

AberCommie has also stated that he personally saw the baby 0bama with his parents at many functions in Hawaii.

Isn’t that odd, since 0bama’s mama was going to college in Washington State during the year following his birth?

And 0bama Sr. was going to school in Massachusetts, the following year before he moved back to Kenya.


91 posted on 02/22/2011 6:06:53 PM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Brown Deer

I haven’t seen a photo of you, so I cannot comment on the first part of your statement about yourself, but I certainly agree that you are irrelevant.


And yet, as irrelevant as I may be, something compelled you to respond to that post!
Strange how life works, isn’t it? ;-)


92 posted on 02/22/2011 6:08:17 PM PST by jamese777
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To: jamese777
Gee OBot troll, when is Hawaii or AberCommie going to show us Obama's real birf certificate?



Hawaii makes escuses LoL


Psssssst BOt, they got the word that it does not exist. ROFL.

93 posted on 02/22/2011 6:08:58 PM PST by Red Steel
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To: jamese777; Hotlanta Mike

Since your comments had absolutely nothing to do with what you quoted from Mike, why did you quote him?


94 posted on 02/22/2011 6:09:58 PM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: jamese777
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95 posted on 02/22/2011 6:15:24 PM PST by bushpilot1
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To: rxsid; Hotlanta Mike

Excellent point, rxsid; I had not realized Hillary co-sponsored 511. That casts her perfidy in a new, even more rancid light. That is the danger of Obama, I guess; he’s so horrible, he almost makes us forget how bad the Clintons were/are.

HM, I think Obama had Hillary boxed in from day one. Do you recall Obama playing the race card against Bill in SC? Obama dealt from the bottom of the deck, and did Bill dirty (so to speak). This was when Bill wasn’t actually doing anything even remotely racist—but it turned blacks against him.

If the Clintons or their people had actually brought up Jeremiah Wright or NBC, can you imagine the broadside Obama would have unleashed? PC, and a kneepad press that went early for Obama, hamstrung the Clintons this last go-round. Obama is a true aficionado when it comes to the race card. It is one of his few actual skills.


96 posted on 02/22/2011 6:15:28 PM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: Brown Deer

It seems that jamese777 cannot read. It was 0bama that stated he was born at Queens, not the newspaper.

lol, I’m not sure what the picture of Queen Kapiolani has to do with it.


In Honolulu, people sometimes confuse the historical figure, Queen Kapi’olani with The Queen’s Medical Center (named for Queen Emma) and Kapi’olani Medical Center for Women and Children.
The former Governor, Linda Lingle got it right:
“You know, during the campaign of 2008, I was actually in the mainland campaigning for Sen. McCain. This issue kept coming up so much in the campaign, and again I think it’s one of those issues that is simply a distraction from the more critical issues that are facing the country. And so I had my health director, who is a physician by background, go personally view the birth certificate in the birth records of the Department of Health, and we issued a news release at that time saying that the president was, in fact, born at Kapi’olani Hospital in Honolulu, Hawaii. And that’s just a fact. And yet people continue to call up and e-mail and want to make it an issue. And I think it’s, again, a horrible distraction for the country by those people who continue this. ... It’s been established. He was born here.”


97 posted on 02/22/2011 6:17:30 PM PST by jamese777
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To: jamese777; Exmil_UK
"I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures."

NOTHING in that statement says that the State of Hawaii produced the COLB!
98 posted on 02/22/2011 6:17:43 PM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Little Pharma

If your argument is solid, this guy beat the CLINTONS.

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With billions of Soros funds and hundreds of millions of illegal, untraced foreign contributions behind TheOne?

Billions can buy a lot of operatives and operations .. and intimidation.

I’d think again.


99 posted on 02/22/2011 6:18:08 PM PST by STARWISE (The overlords are in place .. we are a nation under siege .. pray, go Galt & hunker down)
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To: Brown Deer
When did jamese777 become a graphics expert?

jamese777 is simply an Obamabot Troll. From the amount of posts made here and other places on the web is appears jamese777 is a Paid Obamabot and not very convincing.

100 posted on 02/22/2011 6:18:55 PM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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