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Is President Obama a Christian, an ape, a potato, or none of the above?
examiner.com ^ | Feb. 9, 2011 | RĂ©ne Girard

Posted on 02/10/2011 9:10:47 AM PST by jackspyder

Fellow San Diego examiner Anna Cheuvront recently published an article entitled "President Obama talks about his faith at the National Prayer Breakfast." Within the article, President Obama is quoted as saying:

"My Christian faith has been sustaining for me over the last couple of years and even more so when Michelle and I hear our faith questioned from time to time. We are reminded that ultimately what matters is not what other people say about us but that we are true to our conscience and true to our God."

President Obama claims to be a Christian, yet that claim has been challenged, questioned, and disputed by others who do not believe President Obama really is a Christian. According to a recent poll, the majority of U.S. citizens do not believe President Obama is a Christian.

So who is to say that President Obama is or is not a Christian? Anna and I began to debate this in her comments section, thus giving birth to this article as thoughts of how to respond occurred to me.

If there is not some clear understanding or consensus on who or what someone or something is, then confusion will naturally ensue.

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TOPICS: Humor; Politics; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: ape; fraud; marxist; obama; pos; potato; prayerbreakfast
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Funny! yet makes some great points.
1 posted on 02/10/2011 9:10:53 AM PST by jackspyder
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To: jackspyder

He’s a tator alright....a dictator.


2 posted on 02/10/2011 9:13:21 AM PST by Lucky9teen (Jobs? Nope! Economy? Nope! Disarm the U.S? Yep! Impeach the treasonous Marxist Muslim usurper bast)
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To: jackspyder

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMUgNg7aD8M

“You’re absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith.”

I’m a Christian, and would never mis-speak in that way (nor would I mis-speak in such a way that I would say that I am an atheist, Buddhist, or Hindu).

Such a statement is either a freudian slip (indicating he is a Muslim) or a mis-statement (indicating that his Christianity is next to meaningless to him).


3 posted on 02/10/2011 9:14:15 AM PST by Yet_Again
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To: jackspyder
President Obama claims to be a Christian, yet that claim has been challenged, questioned, and disputed by others who do not believe President Obama really is a Christian. According to a recent poll, the majority of U.S. citizens do not believe President Obama is a Christian.

So who is to say that President Obama is or is not a Christian? Anna and I began to debate this in her comments section, thus giving birth to this article as thoughts of how to respond occurred to me.

A Troubling Question About Obama's Religion: Is He a Covert Catholic?
Obama's Devotion to the Virgin Mary: Who Knew?

4 posted on 02/10/2011 9:15:37 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("Posting news feeds, making eyes bleed, he's hated on seven continents")
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To: jackspyder
He's got to be joking. Barry, his greasepaint still detectable, is on another charm offensive, doing his unbalanced best to get the "folks" to BELIEVE again. He began the campaign with his Anti-Reagan SOTU performance. Then, presumably representing the Baby Killer Babdists, he attended a prayer breakfast to profess his faith. Next stop FOX News, where Helper Monkey O'Really put him through the whitewash cycle (no spin). Finally, the Chamber of Commerce listened politely while he claimed to have their backs. What's next, an appearance at C-PAC? You've got to be joking.
5 posted on 02/10/2011 9:17:07 AM PST by daletoons (If you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat.)
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To: jackspyder

Maybe the Examiner needs to understand what “Christian” actually means.


6 posted on 02/10/2011 9:20:44 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: jackspyder
Obama is a "Black Liberation" revolutionary communist.

"Black theology will accept only the love of God which participates in the destruction of the white enemy. What we need is the divine love as expressed in Black Power, which is the power of black people to destroy their oppressors here and now by any means at their disposal".--James (Jim) Cone,
African American Religious Thought: An Anthology (Paperback)
by Cornel West (Editor), Eddie S. Glaude Jr. (Editor)
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SEAN HANNITY: But Reverend Jeremiah Wright is not backing down and has not for years and in his strong stance on the teaching of black liberation theology is nothing new. He had the same things to say last spring when he appeared on "Hannity & Colmes:"

WRIGHT: If you're not going to talk about theology in context, if you're not going to talk about liberation theology that came out of the '60s, systematized black liberation theology that started with Jim Cone in 1968 and the writings of Cone and the writings of Dwight Hopkins and the writings of womynist theologians and Asian theologians and Hispanic theologians, then you can't talk about the black value system.

HANNITY: But I'm a — reverend

WRIGHT: Do you know liberation theology, sir?

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,354158,00.html
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Obama's Church: Gospel of Hate
Kathy Shaidle, FrontPageMag.com
Monday, April 07, 2008

In March of 2007, FOX News host Sean Hannity had engaged Obama’s pastor in a heated interview about his Church’s teachings. For many viewers, the ensuing shouting match was their first exposure to "Black Liberation Theology"...

Like the pro-communist Liberation Theology that swept Central America in the 1980s and was repeatedly condemned by Pope John Paul II, Black Liberation Theology combines warmed-over 1960s vintage Marxism with carefully distorted biblical passages. However, in contrast to traditional Marxism, it emphasizes race rather than class. The Christian notion of "salvation" in the afterlife is superseded by "liberation" on earth, courtesy of the establishment of a socialist utopia.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=30CD9E14-B0C9-4F8C-A0A6-A896F0F44F02
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Catholics for Marx [Liberation Theology]
By Fr. Robert Sirico
FrontPageMagazine.com | Thursday, June 03, 2004

In the days when the Superpowers were locked in a Cold War, Latin America seethed with revolution, and millions lived behind an iron curtain, a group of theologians concocted a novel idea within the history of Christianity. They proposed to combine the teachings of Jesus with the teachings of Marx as a way of justifying violent revolution to overthrow the economics of capitalism.

The Gospels were re-rendered not as doctrine impacting on the human soul but rather as windows into the historical dialectic of class struggle. These "liberation theologians" saw every biblical criticism of the rich as a mandate to expropriate the expropriating owners of capital, and every expression of compassion for the poor as a call for an uprising by the proletarian class of peasants and workers.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=460782B7-35CC-4C9E-A2C5-93832067C7CD
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"Their founding document [the Weather Underground's] called for the establishment of a "white fighting force" to be allied with the "Black Liberation Movement" and other "anti-colonial" movements[1] to achieve "the destruction of US imperialism and the achievement of a classless world: world communism."..."-Berger, Dan (2006). Outlaws of America: The Weather Underground and the Politics of Solidarity. AK Press, 95.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weatherman_Underground#cite_ref-Berger_0-0

Outlaws of America: The Weather Underground and the Politics of Solidarity (Paperback) by Dan Berger
http://www.amazon.com/Outlaws-America-Underground-Politics-Solidarity/dp/1904859410
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From the New York Times, August 24, 2003

"they [the Weather Underground] employed revolutionary jargon, advocated armed struggle and black liberation and began bombing buildings, taking responsibility for at least 20 attacks. Estimates of their number ranged at times from several dozen to several hundred."

Article: Quieter Lives for 60's Militants, but Intensity of Beliefs Hasn't Faded
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F04E4DE1539F937A1575BC0A9659C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=2
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Rev. Dr. Jeremiah Wright and Dr. William Ayers
are greeted by Rebekah Levin with the Committee
for a Just Peace in Israel and Palestine.
(Chuck Berman/Chicago Tribune / May 17, 2009)
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-ayers_wrightmay18,0,6689521.story

7 posted on 02/10/2011 9:22:20 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: daletoons

So there is someone else in this world who is sick and tired of hearing Obama talk about ‘folks’. I used to like that word; now it is fingernails on a blackboard.


8 posted on 02/10/2011 9:24:37 AM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: jackspyder

Yeah, The Obaba-loon is a Christian, and Osama B went to holy communion last week.

Does the dung-beetle-in-chief think we’re as stupid as Katie Couric?


9 posted on 02/10/2011 9:24:37 AM PST by Da Coyote
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To: ETL

wow - that’s a lot of resources in just one post - I’ll have to check ‘em out


10 posted on 02/10/2011 9:30:45 AM PST by jackspyder
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To: jackspyder
All humans are apes, by definition.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_ape

11 posted on 02/10/2011 9:42:20 AM PST by Abin Sur
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To: Fantasywriter

That’s all Folks! Just one of many of his endearments that won’t be missed when we folks send him packin’.


12 posted on 02/10/2011 9:43:40 AM PST by daletoons (If you can't make them see the light, make them feel the heat.)
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To: jackspyder

I bold-highlighted the important things. You don’t really need to click on the links, unless you want to explore the topic further.


13 posted on 02/10/2011 9:46:08 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Abin Sur

that kind of thinking leads to things like this (from the link you shared)

“Due to the close genetic relationship between humans and other great apes, certain animal rights organizations, such as the Great Ape Project, argue that non-human great apes are persons and should be given basic human rights.”


14 posted on 02/10/2011 9:57:18 AM PST by jackspyder
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Well, I’d believe he is a potato before I’d believe he is a Christian. Excellent piece.

There was a professor of Comparative Literature at Harvard back in the 50s whose name was also Réne Girard. I wonder if this writer is his son, or more likely his grandson?

That would be amusing, since the Réne Girard who was at Harvard taught stuff like Gide, Sartre, and the French avant guarde. You might say that he anticipated the postmodernnist movement in academia. This Réne Girard appears to be a genuine Christian conservative.


15 posted on 02/10/2011 10:01:19 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Depends on the definition of “Christian”. For some the definition is very narrow, based on a literal reading of scripture. For others the meaning includes tradition as well as scripture.

For some Christianity is a living, breathing jouney, much like their view of the Constitution. For them a Chrisitan is someone who is progressive, always discovering new truths that replace that clinging to guns and religion.

For some (call them the new B’hai) a person can be a Christian, Muslim and aetheist at the same time. All it takes is a truly progressive person.


16 posted on 02/10/2011 10:01:22 AM PST by spintreebob
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Photobucket I know who he is....
17 posted on 02/10/2011 10:01:55 AM PST by baddog 219
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To: jackspyder
I can't prevent people from using biology to draw absurd conclusions. That having been said, are you asserting that humans don't belong to Family Hominidae, Genus Homo, Species Homo Sapiens?
18 posted on 02/10/2011 10:02:56 AM PST by Abin Sur
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“Too cool” to be schooled by an omnipotent one of any name, IMHO. He prays to himself...he said so himself.

You gotta watch those Ferris Bueller types...they think they have an all powerful gift and it's not the kind you would want to be the beneficiary of...

19 posted on 02/10/2011 10:14:59 AM PST by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: Abin Sur

anyone can create any “family” they want, so if these scientists want to create a “Hominidae family” which includes humans then they can do that, but I can of course reject it if I want to


20 posted on 02/10/2011 10:19:00 AM PST by jackspyder
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