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What cracks did Loughner fall through. School was one of them. Courts were another.
Great Schools website ^ | 1/11/11 | HistroHistro

Posted on 01/11/2011 7:35:04 PM PST by histrohistro

Tucson Schools failed Loughner and America


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Living in Ohio I can not verify that Tucson City Schools are a bastion of liberal teachers unions like most schools in towns of of this size, 500k+. But I am guessing that it is. I came across this entry from 1/16/2005, one year before he dropped out...

I dont think that the teaching is too good. Some of the teachers choose favorites and they are not too fair. I think the parents need to be involved more. music,art and sports are really good they are available to everyone who wants to do it. —Submitted by a student

I doubt Jared posted this, but maybe. More disturbing

Posted February 26, 2007 Not happy with this school at all, the principal is unreachable, teachers just sit back and allow students to fail. I realize that it is 90% the student responsibility to 'do' the work and to find out what the work assignments are. But a teacher that allows a child to sit in a class and do nothing? and then fail him? My understanding about being a good teacher is to motivate students, be leaders and to not leave a student behind. Work with parents on what needs to be improved upon. there seems to be no prevention programs, just 'get in trouble first' motto then let the courts decide? let's give mountain view a big 'YAY' to high test scores... but a big 'BOO!' to teacher involement with helping troubled teens. —Submitted by lisa radcliffe, a parent

And a promoter Posted January 3, 2009 about counselors... My son attended MVHS for 4 years. He graduated in May 2008. Overall the school is satisfactory, however I did find that there were some communication problems between parents and teachers that need to be addressed. The school doesn't seem to have enough counselors and I would have liked to have seen a more organized front office. Overall, I was satisfied with the teachers & my son enjoyed the school. I did have some real concerns when I enrolled him in the school since he had been attending a private school for a number of years. He seemed to have transitioned well. —Submitted by a parent

Seems like a good school with some serious cracks. Check it out yourself.

http://www.greatschools.org/school/parentReviews.page?id=1729&state=AZ&sortBy=dd&page=3#revPagination

Someone else needs to start a thread on the diversion program he was in once if not twice for graffiti and drug charges. Southwestern Intervention Services (S.I.S.)

1 posted on 01/11/2011 7:35:08 PM PST by histrohistro
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To: histrohistro

It’s not every high school dropout that develops an appreciation for the Communist Manifesto and Mein Kampf. Were these books on the high school reading list?


2 posted on 01/11/2011 7:41:34 PM PST by scrabblehack
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To: histrohistro

I found this:
http://hubpages.com/hub/Loughner-Attended-School-Funded-by-Obama-Ayers


3 posted on 01/11/2011 7:42:07 PM PST by Bronzy (We Remembered In November.)
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To: histrohistro

I loved living in Az, but the schools are terrible.


4 posted on 01/11/2011 7:42:16 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: histrohistro

So was the sheriif who is opening his big trap when he knows the congresswomen was being harrased for quite some time. The product of thier utopian society, rotten fruit from a rotten tree


5 posted on 01/11/2011 7:42:30 PM PST by ronnie raygun (V.........................................FOR VOMIT)
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To: mylife

The schools are too busy worrying about how they are going to make room for all the illegal aliens.


6 posted on 01/11/2011 7:43:47 PM PST by chicagolady (Mexican Elite say: EXPORT Poverty Let the American Taxpayer foot the bill !)
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To: histrohistro

There was something about this Mountain View school on a thread here a day or so ago. This school was started from a program invented by Bill Ayres and funded by Hussain Obama(he got the funding through his Chicago stint), it is a very liberal twisted kind of school.


7 posted on 01/11/2011 7:45:13 PM PST by YellowRoseofTx (Evil is not the opposite of God; it's the absence of God)
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To: histrohistro

Any one that gets in trouble, disrupts a class, has a tattoo, a piercing, reads Mien Kamph, Communist Manifesto or any other radical book, looks at porn, smokes dope, drinks, dislikes big government, post disparaging remarks about our politicians, police or tax collectors, or is just a little odd, well these people should not be allowed to fall between the cracks. They should wear monitors, and be watched at all times. Now we have a safe society.


8 posted on 01/11/2011 7:45:54 PM PST by Cisco Nix (Because the left is ugly and the right is beautiful.)
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The crack of reality that separates the logical from the illogical.

You know, the same one that separates conservatives and liberals. I have always thought that if it were not for being such cowards, most liberals would be one breakdown away from being a mass murder.

Look at the way they all support abortion with bulging veins on their temples. Last time i looked at the number, 50 million babies murdered in 40 years in America and almost 300 million aborted world wide since then, actually makes it the largest mass murder of a targeted group in the history of the world.


9 posted on 01/11/2011 7:48:59 PM PST by Freepmanchew ( <:)))>< Proverbs 30:7-9)
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To: Cisco Nix

Well, at least I gave my copy of Mien Kamph to my niece when she went to Notre Dame. (Didn’t get it back either. And my dad bought it after the war.)


10 posted on 01/11/2011 7:49:31 PM PST by 21twelve ( You can go from boom to bust, from dreams to a bowl of dust ... another lost generation.)
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I will give you all an update from down here. Most people in Tucson aren't buying this crap, even the biggest fans of Giffords.

My first day back at work since the shootings came today, and I expected to be crucified, based on what I see and read in the media. It wasn't that way. My co-workers are fanatical liberals.

I walked up to one of them and asked how he was. The man adores Giffords. He let me sit with him and grieve with him. Others did also. One man came up and tried to blame “Republicans” and was met with an icy set of stares. They were more than willing to let me join them in sorrow. They all basically blame the shooter, no one else. One man said we could all use to cool our rhetoric. No one argued.

Some of them later quoted the media that Sarah Palin is finished because of the crosshairs thing, but that was easily refuted by my using Obama’s gunfight quote and the way Democrats have produced target maps in previous elections.

We had a decent day together and I was surprised, right here in the middle of leftist Tucson, only a few miles from where the tragedy occurred.

11 posted on 01/11/2011 7:53:42 PM PST by Luke21
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I read Mien Kamph years ago. It really sucked. I struggled to finish it. Only did so, so I could say I read it.
12 posted on 01/11/2011 7:54:56 PM PST by Cisco Nix (Because the left is ugly and the right is beautiful.)
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To: histrohistro

What cracks did Loughner fall through?....

The crack of reality.


13 posted on 01/11/2011 7:55:22 PM PST by Route395
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I spoke today with a friend who does counseling under contract with our local police with troubled youth. He’s often called in the middle of the night to work through things and get a preliminary psychological assessment of the individual in question.

If he is aware of credible violent threats against individuals, my friend IS REQUIRED by law to file notification with the state, These filings, at least in most states if not all, will prevent anyone from passing the FBI check for weapons purpose. FAILURE to file will result in LEGAL ACTION if anyone down the road gets attacked.

Sheriff Dupe-Nik could be in deep doo-doo, since he says HE KNEW of multiple threats, yet apparently did not file ANY notifications (which would have prevented Loughner from purchasing that weapon).

Sometimes people have a REASON for kicking up a lot of dust.


14 posted on 01/11/2011 7:56:56 PM PST by cookcounty (Knives, Guns, Enemies and Axx-Kicks: The Gentle Political Speech of Barack Obama.)
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To: histrohistro

Loughner failed.


15 posted on 01/11/2011 7:58:34 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: Luke21

That’s quietly very reassuring. Thanks for sharing it.


16 posted on 01/11/2011 8:23:28 PM PST by sgtyork (The secret of happiness is freedom, and the secret of freedom, courage. Thucydides)
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To: cookcounty

Libs are always the first ones to stand up and defend the rights of these deranged yoyo’s to wander amonst us ....It’s liberals and their turn every nut job loose laws that got these people killed!


17 posted on 01/11/2011 8:25:42 PM PST by Route395
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To: histrohistro

Crazy people are now a minority, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mad_Pride

You some kinda racist?


18 posted on 01/11/2011 8:36:16 PM PST by GraceG
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To: Bronzy

Thanks for link about Loughner attending Obama/Ayers funded school. Interesting ammo uhhhh..... gosh are they going to arrest me for saying that?


19 posted on 01/11/2011 9:57:26 PM PST by Bhoy
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To: scrabblehack

Doesn’t anyone think the parents ought to have some responsibility in this? If he is the usual schizophrenic his recognizable symptoms started late teens-early twentys.

Parents would have seen this and should have sought counseling. After all, at 24 he still lived with them.


20 posted on 01/11/2011 10:09:53 PM PST by Dudoight
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