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New Analysis on Obama's Democratic Party of Hawaii Certification of Nomination; Had Legal Help...
Birtherreport.com ^ | Sunday, January 9, 2011 | ObamaRelease YourRecords

Posted on 01/09/2011 9:37:25 AM PST by Hotlanta Mike

-New Analysis of Democrat Party's Official 2008 Certification of Nomination documents for Obama reveals post-dated alterations not only in the legal content but also possible falsification of the stated time each were submitted to Chief Elections Officer.-

(Excerpt) Read more at obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; History; Politics
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To: jamese777

I’m going to assume you have never been in a hospital when a birth certificate was filled out by the newborn’s mother. She can provide whatever information she wants, true or not, and it goes into the record.

Thus, Stanley Ann or Madelyn Dunham could have said BHO, Sr. or Frank Marshall Davis or Joe Sixpack was the father and that’s what the record would show. Similarly, an unwed mother can report that she is married. The mother/grandmother’s input is never questioned.

The information the mother/grandmother provides is passed to the Dept of Health (and/or Vital Statistics) and thus to any media outlet that reports births. Thus, the information reported IS from family.


41 posted on 01/09/2011 3:19:00 PM PST by EDINVA
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To: Spaulding
Obama never said he was a natural born citizen, he said: "I am a native born citizen of the U.S.", which is a State Department definition, a statute, meaning born on our soil but not necessarily of citizen parents.

I don't know much about this document. But seems interesting that his books talk about his Kenyan father yet he signs this natural born citizen document.

also Why Was Sarah Herlihy Worrying About Article II?

from article

"I had to ask myself, what would drive any American to want to change a clause in a document that is the very foundation of our government? So, I kept digging, and found that SARAH P. HERLIHY is employed by Kirkland & Ellis LLP "Noting that this law firm is based in Chicago, the light bulb was shining a little brighter . Upon looking at the firm, and the partners, I found that Bruce I. Ettelson, P.C., is Member of finance committees of U.S. Senators Barack Obama and Richard Durbin.

AMENDING THE NATURAL BORN CITIZEN REQUIREMENT: GLOBALIZATION AS THE IMPETUS AND THE OBSTACLE SARAH P. HERLIHY. INTRODUCTION

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42 posted on 01/09/2011 3:44:09 PM PST by opentalk
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To: esquirette

I share your concerns, but in this case I do think the truth will come out. For one thing, if the original has been destroyed, why don’t they just come right out and say so? I.e.: why not issue an announcement that BO’s vault-copy BC is missing, and so we must desist asking to see it because it simply doesn’t exist.

They don’t do that because in all likelihood it’s still there. In the extreme case that it’s been destroyed, however, that is a massive Obama headache. Who destroyed it and why? The questions surrounding the total absence of an original BC are much bigger and deeper than the ones we are asking now, and would sink BO for sure.

As for the forgery, that is too big a conspiracy to believe in. When they finally show the BC, it will have to be scrutinized in order to have any credibility at all. [Or they will have to explain why no one with any independent credibility and expertise is allowed to examine it, which will be just another can of deceptive, snake-oil worms Obama doesn’t need to have hung on his fast-tarnishing repuation.] I just don’t think all the people required to do a forgery that would pass analysis—and who would have to cooperate to get it done—would risk that much for the sake of the sorry excuse of a scam artist that now occupies the Oval Office.

I really do believe the truth is coming. We’ve agitated for it a long time, and the pressure is building. At the same time Obama’s poll numbers are dropping—but not as fast as they will when the price of gas at the pump skyrockets, as it’s about to. Sooner than later it will all reach critical mass—and Obama is not the only one who will go down in the resulting scandal.


43 posted on 01/09/2011 3:45:56 PM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: opentalk

Thank you for posting the Herlihy comment/documentation. Personally, I have always seen that as a genuine smoking gun. Why DID she come out with such a singular position at just that moment in time? In police/detective work there is a saying: there’s no such thing as a coincidence. Anybody who thinks Herlihy’s comment is ‘just a coincidence’ isn’t really thinking to begin with. It’s all part of the big picture—and a very damning picture it is.


44 posted on 01/09/2011 3:52:31 PM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: Fantasywriter
Kirkland & Ellis LLP made a large donation to Harvard law under part of Kagan's fund raising.

"We are enormously grateful to everyone at Kirkland & Ellis for this new gift, and for Kirkland's unwavering support over the years," said Dean Elena Kagan. "The true magic of a Harvard Law education takes place in the classroom, where sparks fly and minds expand. I look forward to seeing countless Harvard Law students learning in Kirkland & Ellis Hall, which is located in one of the most significant buildings in the history of American legal education."

Kirkland & Ellis LLP is a 1,000-attorney law firm representing global clients in complex transactional, litigation, intellectual property, and restructuring matters with offices in Chicago, London, Los Angeles, Munich, New York, San Francisco, and Washington, D.C.

article link

this is the begining of the paper ---

The natural born citizen requirement in Article II of the United States Constitution has been called the ¡°stupidest provision¡± in the Constitution,1 ¡°undecidedly un-American,¡±2 ¡°blatantly discriminatory,¡±3 and the ¡°Consti-tution¡¯s worst provision.¡±4 Since Arnold Schwarzenegger¡¯s victory in the California gubernatorial recall election of 2003, commentators and policy-makers have once again started to discuss whether Article II of the United States Constitution should be amended to render naturalized citizens eligi-ble for the presidency.5 Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the Constitution defines the eligibility requirements for an individual to become president. Article II provides:

No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Of-fice who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.6 Although these sixty-two words are far from extraordinary, the natural born citizen provision is controversial because it prevents over 12.8 million Americans from being eligible for the presidency.7

45 posted on 01/09/2011 4:11:07 PM PST by opentalk
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To: Fantasywriter
"So he tells the judge at LTC Lakin’s trial that releasing the BC would be very ‘embarrassing’..."

Is this true?

46 posted on 01/09/2011 4:12:48 PM PST by newfreep (Palin/DeMint 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
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To: opentalk
direct link to pdf. Herlihy paper - natural born citizen requirement.

link

47 posted on 01/09/2011 4:17:20 PM PST by opentalk
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To: newfreep

Here is the relevant quote:

“Col. Lind, Presiding JAG Judge, has recently ruled that LTC Lakin can’t depose (question under oath) the Hawaiian Custodian of Birth Records, nor view any of their documents. The judge claimed that birth records might contain “embarrassing information” about the putative President.”

Now where on earth would the judge get the idea that the BC could “embarrass” Obama unless from Obama’s counsel and/or the Hawaiian authorities themselves?

Here’s the link:

http://www.impeachobamacampaign.com/tag/terrence-lakin/


48 posted on 01/09/2011 4:27:36 PM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: opentalk

The Obama, Harvard, Kagan and Kirkland & Ellis connection is insidious at best. Thanks for yet more excellent research and documentation. Obama knows he’s got a problem. That’s why he looked like a famine victim in some of the HI vacation pics. Pulling a fraud of this magnitude takes a toll on even a sociopath.

Enjoy AF1 while you can, Obama; your story is unraveling faster than a roll of toilet tissue fastened to the tail of the space shuttle.


49 posted on 01/09/2011 4:36:15 PM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: Fantasywriter

WOW - we are indeed living in a judicial and socialist tyranny.


50 posted on 01/09/2011 4:40:55 PM PST by newfreep (Palin/DeMint 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
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To: newfreep

You nailed it. To spare Obama “embarrassment” an honorable, career officer/army surgeon is thrown in Leavenworth for 6 months. You imagine this is the stuff of the old Soviet Union, but it’s happening right here in the USA. I believe LTC Lakin will be vindicated, though, and Obama will end up disgraced. Obama is just hiding too much, and has too many skeletons in his closet. Before long his info dam will spring a leak, and his mountain of lies will crumble.


51 posted on 01/09/2011 4:49:31 PM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: Fantasywriter

From your keyboard to God’s ears.

May God save America.....


52 posted on 01/09/2011 4:55:15 PM PST by newfreep (Palin/DeMint 2012 - Bolton: Secy of State)
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To: newfreep

Amen, FRiend.


53 posted on 01/09/2011 4:57:23 PM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: Fantasywriter
If the issue ever gets a to the supreme court, beyond standing qualifications, Kagan should not be allowed to participate.
54 posted on 01/09/2011 5:02:45 PM PST by opentalk
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To: opentalk

I just cannot imagine Kagan would be allowed to rule on this issue. I don’t think the US is that far gone yet.


55 posted on 01/09/2011 5:05:15 PM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: jamese777

There has been no proof that a person was allowed to “self-identify” to a non-existent code.
Those codes are the ones a parent could “self-select” from, but these were the official ones required to be used. If there was not a perfect fit, they had to choose the one closest. As in “other non-white”.
In that day and time those were the codes. Fact.
In all of the extensive research that I, and many others have done into just this one topic, we have never found anything that suggested a person could create their own race code.
Not even in Hawaii.


56 posted on 01/09/2011 5:45:43 PM PST by Ladysforest
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To: EDINVA

I’m going to assume you have never been in a hospital when a birth certificate was filled out by the newborn’s mother. She can provide whatever information she wants, true or not, and it goes into the record.

Thus, Stanley Ann or Madelyn Dunham could have said BHO, Sr. or Frank Marshall Davis or Joe Sixpack was the father and that’s what the record would show. Similarly, an unwed mother can report that she is married. The mother/grandmother’s input is never questioned.

The information the mother/grandmother provides is passed to the Dept of Health (and/or Vital Statistics) and thus to any media outlet that reports births. Thus, the information reported IS from family.


And who is going to corroborate or invalidate that information 50 years after the birth?

I’m going to assume that you have never been in a Court of Law when a birth certificate was being introduced into evidence. Under the federal rules of evidence, a state certified copy of a birth record is a self-authenticating document. What it says on the document is presumed to be valid in the absence of evidence to the contrary.

For example, President Dwight David Eisenhower was a home birth in Denisen, Texas and no birth certificate was issued for him until 62 years after his birth. The verification was provided by his brother signing a notarized statement.
The only proof of birth for several of our presidents is an entry in a family bible.


57 posted on 01/09/2011 6:00:02 PM PST by jamese777
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To: jamese777
You are using as examples people who's family histories are well-known.

Even though it was 62 years later, are you suggesting that the family lineage of Eisenhower was in question? Were there not credible family and friends who were witness to the events of Eisenhower's birth, and knew of his parents' lineage?

And of the other presidential births that you say are only noted by entries in family bibles, are you suggesting that there wasn't an otherwise family legacy that the birth circumstances of these presidents was not in doubt?

Can the same be said of the aka Obama birth? I doubt it.

-PJ

58 posted on 01/09/2011 6:11:29 PM PST by Political Junkie Too ("Comprehensive" reform bills only end up as incomprehensible messes.)
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To: Ladysforest

There has been no proof that a person was allowed to “self-identify” to a non-existent code.
Those codes are the ones a parent could “self-select” from, but these were the official ones required to be used. If there was not a perfect fit, they had to choose the one closest. As in “other non-white”.
In that day and time those were the codes. Fact.
In all of the extensive research that I, and many others have done into just this one topic, we have never found anything that suggested a person could create their own race code.
Not even in Hawaii.


Mr. Kurt Tsue of the Hawaii Department of Health is alive and well and would be available to testify under oath in a court or congressional proceeding.
You can reach him yourself for elaboration of his statement to the media about the use of parents’ race self-identification at: Kurt Tsue. Phone: (808) 586-4402. Fax: (808) 586-4417. Email: kurt.tsue@doh.hawaii.gov

It should be easy enough to verify or invalidate whether there are other examples of non-standard racial designations being used on 1961 Hawaii birth records.


59 posted on 01/09/2011 6:22:48 PM PST by jamese777
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To: Fantasywriter
After reading your post, however, the perfect description popped into my head: ‘Obama guards his BC as if his life depends on it’.

Yes, our theories go together. Seriously, Obama has contempt for the American people; that is obvious. He has lied to us so ridiculously that we can tell that he does not BELIEVE his own lies nor cares if we do, either. So it's not just to save face for America. He will be in SERIOUS doo doo if people find out about his lies. Nothing else would be so incredibly important about his BC; there would be a way to laugh everything else away. After all, he was only a baby at the time and none of it was his fault.

But if it could be proven that he KNEW Obama Sr was not the daddy, he would not have been the Muslim Great Hope for America, and I can only imagine how angry certain powers would be...

60 posted on 01/09/2011 6:28:52 PM PST by Yaelle
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