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Lego Antikythera Mechanism
YouTube ^ | 09 Dec 2010 | NatureVideoChannel

Posted on 12/10/2010 9:22:04 AM PST by Ro_Thunder

Cool video of the Antikythera Mechanism rebuilt in Lego, and how it works.


TOPICS: Astronomy; History; Science
KEYWORDS: anthikythera; antikythera; antikytheramechanism; bceequalsbc; bcequalsbce; godsgravesglyphs; greece; history
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I just wonder how much knowledge was lost in the destruction of the library at Alexandria.

Seriously - the 'ancients' built his machine thousands of years ago. What else did they know? And why don't we know, now?

1 posted on 12/10/2010 9:22:07 AM PST by Ro_Thunder
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To: Ro_Thunder

“And why don’t we know, now? “

Because those lovely barbarians known as “Mohammetans” burned the library of Alexandria.
And they’re still stuck in the third or sixth century.


2 posted on 12/10/2010 9:24:40 AM PST by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: Ro_Thunder

Amazing!

Geek Mom Bump :)


3 posted on 12/10/2010 9:29:59 AM PST by thesearethetimes... ("Courage, is fear that has said its prayers." DorothyBernard)
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To: Ro_Thunder

Fantastic, thanks! I feel less bad about collecting and playing with LEGO as an adult.


4 posted on 12/10/2010 9:49:56 AM PST by filospinato
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To: Ro_Thunder

save


5 posted on 12/10/2010 9:52:27 AM PST by vanilla swirl (We are the Patrick Henry we have been waiting for!)
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To: Ro_Thunder; Vendome; HiTech RedNeck

That is awesome !


6 posted on 12/10/2010 10:00:37 AM PST by onona (dbada)
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To: Ro_Thunder

I hope Lego releases this set. That is so over the top. Thanks for sharing.....C


7 posted on 12/10/2010 10:22:17 AM PST by colinhester
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That’s not a set, that’s a scientific experiment. I can tell you it won’t be released, but you could probably acquire all but the panels if you found out the number and style of pieces and order them all from Lego.com (which won’t be cheap).


8 posted on 12/10/2010 10:30:05 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: Ro_Thunder

“BCE.”

Sigh.


9 posted on 12/10/2010 10:31:02 AM PST by bolobaby
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To: Ro_Thunder

Cool.

No go make something that can rebuild the Pyramids of Giza.


10 posted on 12/10/2010 10:40:35 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Ro_Thunder

For later.


11 posted on 12/10/2010 10:44:18 AM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Ro_Thunder

And here I sit staring at the skiploader I finally managed to complete with an erector set.


12 posted on 12/10/2010 10:46:44 AM PST by norton
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To: filospinato
Fantastic, thanks! I feel less bad about collecting and playing with LEGO as an adult.

/me slowly raises arm as well :)
13 posted on 12/10/2010 11:15:22 AM PST by battousai (Conservatives are racist? YES, I hate stupid white liberals.)
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To: bolobaby

Consider BCE as I do

Before
Christ
Enters

They can call it whatever they want, but you know, they still count from the time of Christ, and his birth, so their fault.


14 posted on 12/10/2010 12:49:00 PM PST by Ro_Thunder (Nov 2nd, 2010 - The adults get home, and are back in charge)
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To: Ro_Thunder
I just wonder how much knowledge was lost in the destruction of the library at Alexandria. Seriously - the 'ancients' built his machine thousands of years ago. What else did they know? And why don't we know, now?

Why do you think the knowledge was lost? Just because the library was burned (several times, in fact), doesn't mean anything of importance was lost at all.

Perhaps it was moved into... safekeeping... first.

Why?

Knowledge is power, that's why.

15 posted on 12/10/2010 2:26:47 PM PST by Talisker (When you find a turtle on top of a fence post, you can be damn sure it didn't get there on its own.)
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16 posted on 12/10/2010 10:05:42 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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I think my head just exploded.

Wish I had time and money to hire somebody smart to go over that with me.


17 posted on 12/11/2010 12:18:14 AM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: Darksheare

Actually, Julius Caesar burned the library. The action of which you speak was trivial compared to that of Caesar.


18 posted on 12/11/2010 5:29:38 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 .....( History is a process, not an event ))
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I’m sorry, while it’s very impressive, tt looks like an implementation of Derek J. de Solla Price’s interpertation of Antikythera Mechanicism. Price died in 1983, before high resolution tomographs of it were made and before “Part E” was recognized as part of the mechanism. The device had been submerged in the sea for almost 20 centuries before being discovered in 1900.

The actual device is more sophisticated in many ways than Price imagined, although Price inferred the existence of differential gears almost 1500 years before they are known to have been used, there is no direct evidence of their use in the mechanism and current “best” reconstructions do not employ them.

The device was pre-Ptolemy and probably incorporates astronomy as understood by Hipparcos but did not incorporate the eccentric orbit invented by Ptolmey, but did include epicycles which apparently were known to, if not invented by Hipparcos. Hipparcos based much his astronomy on the observations of the ancient Babylonians. Direct knowledge of Babylonian astronomy is very fragmentary, but Hipparcos incorporated much of it into his own. Our knowledge of Hipparcos is almost soley through Ptolemy, who credits Hipparcos quite generously. Our knowledge of Ptolemy is only through Arab translations of Almagest.

It would be inaccurate to say that we had no clue that such mechanism existed. There are numerous accounts of such mechanism by ancient authors, including Cicero. According to Cicero, Marcellus, the Roman General who lead the sack of Syracuse and ordered that no harm befall Archimedes, kept only one artefact of the loot for himself, a device attributed to Archimedes whose function as described by Cicero was remarkably similar to the Antikythera Mechanism. It is known to have been kept by Marcellus’ family for six generations.

Micheal Wright, who spent decades studying the device and even built his own homemade tomograph to photograph it in the 1980’s, has build a more faithful reconstruct in brass, with original inscriptions in Greek. To see Mr. Wright’s delightful device see: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eUibFQKJqI

For a fascinating account of the Mechanism, published in 2009 see: http://www.decodingtheheavens.com/ The author, Jo Marchant, is the narrator of the Micheal Wright video.


19 posted on 12/11/2010 5:43:12 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Socialists are to economics what circle squarers are to math; undaunted by reason or derision.)
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To: bert

It is not at all clear how much destruction of the library can be attributed to Ceasar and even his critics grant that any damage was incidental to burning the Egyptian Navy of Ptolemy XIII. The Library and adjoining buildings were clearly open for business almost immediately after the siege in 48 BC and for centuries later. The library survived at least until the time of the Caliphate, but did not survive it. One story has it that when Caliph Omar’s General Amr asked for instructions on what to do with the library Omar wrote back, “If those books are in agreement with the Quran, we have no need of them; and if these are opposed to the Quran they are heresy, therefore destroy them all.”


20 posted on 12/11/2010 5:58:59 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Socialists are to economics what circle squarers are to math; undaunted by reason or derision.)
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