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Are You Worse Off Now Than You Were Four Years Ago?
Three Fingers of Politics ^ | 12/6/10 | Blind Blueberry

Posted on 12/06/2010 8:16:08 AM PST by Bumpus2

So Michael Kinsley wants to know if we’re “poorer than we used to be.” He wonders why, since GP is currently about the same as it was in the third quarter of 2007, we’re so “glum” now and we weren’t then.

It’s a fair question. And, to anybody who’s not a liberal columnist, it has a simple answer: experience. As Kinsely helpfully points out, in Q3 2007, “the bank bailouts, the government takeover of General Motors, the stimulus package all lay ahead.”

That’s right. The American people hadn’t yet been told, repeatedly and – yes – triumphantly, that capitalism had failed, that the free market had imploded of its own inherent flaws.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Politics
KEYWORDS: economy; michaelkinsley; obama
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1 posted on 12/06/2010 8:16:12 AM PST by Bumpus2
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Poor Michael Kinsley, still clueless after all these years.

At least he's still smiling.

2 posted on 12/06/2010 8:18:25 AM PST by skeeter
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I definitely make more money now than I did four years ago but expenses have increased so IMHO it’s probably a complete wash out.


3 posted on 12/06/2010 8:18:25 AM PST by Peter from Rutland
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You betcha!!


4 posted on 12/06/2010 8:20:01 AM PST by Carley (ISRAEL.......NOT SO ALONE!!!)
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Hmmm...my net worth 4 years ago was almost 3/4 of a million...today I’d be lucky to be above 0, if I count all my physical possessions generously.

Not much of a question.


5 posted on 12/06/2010 8:22:18 AM PST by Scott from the Left Coast
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No. 4 years ago I was near homeless. I was alone. I had far too much debt for my income.

Today I am married, our combined income has us comfortably middle class for our region and I have bought a home. Other than the home my personal debt has more than halved. I have a farm that will be populated very soon with chickens, pigs and a milk cow. I have four dogs. We attend church every week and worship our Lord together.

I wouldn’t go back to 4 years ago on a dare.


6 posted on 12/06/2010 8:23:31 AM PST by Grunthor (I hope this one pleases you.)
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YES!!

20% Pay cut and doing the jobs by myself that three people once did without the compensation.

That’s capitalism and it always survives regardless of what Michael Kinsley believes.


7 posted on 12/06/2010 8:24:24 AM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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Honestly ... no, I’m not. I think the country as a whole is worse off, though.

SnakeDoc


8 posted on 12/06/2010 8:25:36 AM PST by SnakeDoctor ("They made it evident to every man [...] that human beings are many, but men are few." -- Herodotus)
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No, I am not worse off. But it has nothing to do with the economy or the government. It has to do with a new job, getting rid of debts and reconnecting with a run-away child.


9 posted on 12/06/2010 8:28:15 AM PST by Colvin (Proud Owner '66 Binder PU, '66 Binder Travelall,)
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To: Peter from Rutland
better off because our kids are out of college, and married....worse off because hubby's work has been cut back to 3 days a week and the "promise" of a new company buying his plant keep fading away, but fingers crossed....better off because even though I work part time I can pick extra days up and my income is climbing up slowly....worse off because we still have this HELOC to pay off ....

but we're a team..we're essentially happy....we're down to earth and luckily enjoy down to earth things....

10 posted on 12/06/2010 8:30:13 AM PST by cherry
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The only chunk of money I had - my husband’s life insurance :( - I dutifully invested it and lost 60% of it in 2008/2009.

So I lost money - but I have a home, a garden, a freezer and a shotgun so I lack for nothing!


11 posted on 12/06/2010 8:31:07 AM PST by 30Moves
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Michael Kinsley STAYS stuck on stupid.


12 posted on 12/06/2010 8:32:34 AM PST by Lazamataz (Lowering Kristinn's IQ since May 21, 1999)
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To: Bumpus2

Much worse off. No job. Four years ago I was making good money, was comfortable in paying my debts and had a good outlook.

Now, just depressing is what it has become. Thank God my wife is still employed.


13 posted on 12/06/2010 8:35:04 AM PST by doodad
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Four years ago we were taking vacations once a year,eating out once a week and all of our bills were paid on time,including the mortgage....
Today..our house has been sold in a short sale,we’re in default on a couple of bills and are looking for a place to live.
Yep...definitely worse off.
That being said, at least the hubster has found steady work and there’s light at the end of the tunnel.We have each other and our kittycats, so we feel blessed. We have more than a lot of other people.


14 posted on 12/06/2010 8:36:53 AM PST by gimme1ibertee ("In a time of universal deceit,telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act"-George Orwell)
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He wonders why, since GP is currently about the same as it was in the third quarter of 2007, we’re so “glum” now and we weren’t then.

Well if GDP hasn't grown since 2007, and there are more people in the country than by definition isn't everyone poorer on average? Or, is that a dumb question?

To answer the question, prior to 2007 construction was booming, I was working everyday often overtime and I had no time for a vacation. Now I'm lucky if I work 6 months out of the year, I have plenty of time for a vacation, but no $$$. The good news is I have my health my family and I'm willing and able to work.

15 posted on 12/06/2010 8:39:32 AM PST by YankeeReb
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Definitely worse off than four years ago. Same income but an increase in food bills, clothing bills, taxes, gas, heating/air conditioning etc... Use to have some extra for dinner out every few months with the family or a trip to the boardwalk. Not anymore. However, still have my health and my beautiful family so I can’t complain. Just a thought.


16 posted on 12/06/2010 8:43:53 AM PST by momtothree
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Material things matter, and I think the point of the question is about material things. However, one should also include immaterial things such as:

Do you trust the government more or less?
Do you trust your bank more or less?
Are you secure in your employment?
Do you feel content with your local schools?
Do you worry more about our foreign relations?
Has travelling become more onerous?
etc.

Even those who have moved up to better jobs should probably admit that the quality of life has diminished.

17 posted on 12/06/2010 8:52:42 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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Better off, by far. Added a daughter and son to our small, happy family.


18 posted on 12/06/2010 9:10:48 AM PST by filospinato
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Yep,pay rate frozen for the entire time while gas goes up along with other necessities.

At least I still have a job.

19 posted on 12/06/2010 9:18:48 AM PST by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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Not in the least.


20 posted on 12/06/2010 9:21:28 AM PST by stuartcr (When politicians politicize issues, aren't they just doing their job?)
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