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Glenn Beck Started Out Well, But Now Its "Whoever Your God Is . . ."
JoeClarke.Net ^ | 10/11/2010 | JoeClarke.Net

Posted on 10/11/2010 4:56:01 PM PDT by joeclarke

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To: Quix

I think I replied to you about web-bot on the wrong thread... oh well.


81 posted on 10/12/2010 8:55:18 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: The Comedian; Alamo-Girl; Amityschild; AngieGal; AnimalLover; Ann de IL; aposiopetic; aragorn; ...

PING TO END TIMES ETC LIST MOSTLY FOR THE SIGNATURE/ QUOTE AT THE END OF THIS POST FROM THE ATS THREAD:


A little bit down in that thread:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread619360/pg1

His friend George Ure has given this as the reason on his website:

Clif’s Website Taken Down

Clif’s website www.halfpasthuman.com has been taken offline by his internet provider, although there is no known financial reason for this to have occurred.

Clif has been stonewalled by the ISP as to reason for the site doing down.

His next anticipated release was scheduled for this weekend, but at this point in time, it is unclear whether it will be able to be posted because of the ISP issues.

urbansurvival.com...

[QX: I LIKE THE FOLLOWING QUOTE FROM THE MEDIA EXPERT]:

signature:

Only the small secrets need to be protected; the Big ones are kept secret by public incredulity

- Marshal Mc Luhan


82 posted on 10/12/2010 8:58:55 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Alamo-Girl

CHARLESWORTH, JAMES H

VOLUME 2

THE OLD TESTAMENT PSEUDEPIGRAPHA

arrived today. Thought I’d ordered both volumes. This one seems to have Enoc I, II & III, however.

I thought it was Chattsworth. Silly me.

Anyway—hope this is the right one!

Also have Lumpkin’s ENOCH I, II, & III, too.

As though I didn’t have anything else to read! LOL.

LUB


83 posted on 10/12/2010 9:09:35 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Quix

Thanks for the ping!


84 posted on 10/12/2010 9:10:01 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: HerrBlucher

You need to do a bit more study on that subject. The deism of the founding fathers is a narrative of liberals. A few were deists. Most were Christians. No apologies there. Out and out Christians. The redactions from the Jefferson bible also have a different purpose than one would suppose. Be careful to not perpetuate the seeds of falsehood that the left deliberately sowed in our history books.


85 posted on 10/12/2010 9:10:51 PM PDT by Blogger
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To: Alamo-Girl

Wrote too soon,

Enoch is not in Vol 2.

I hope Vol 1 is still in the mail . . . Sigh.


86 posted on 10/12/2010 9:12:02 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Alamo-Girl
Would it be accurate to state that our perception is mediated by photons? Since the resolution of all forces except gravity under one common focal point/common state for origin, would it be correct to assign all the mediation of all the forces to the photon? ...

It is my contention that we exist --are located temporally-- as present beings. Because we rely upon photon mediation, we have a lag time between emission and reception/processing of photon energy.

On a grander scale, the universe appears to us to be temporally located in present. Einstein showed us that 'present' can be malleable based upon the gravitational field strength or acceleration field. HOWEVER, the quantum foam is not malleable in this same reference frame because it is from this foam that photons have arisen, so the quantum foam is 'pre-photon' expression.

Am I accurate so far? ...

87 posted on 10/12/2010 9:16:42 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's nye impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Quix
Kudos! Though your present interest is volume 1, I'm sure you'll find a lot of fascinating insights from volume 2.
88 posted on 10/12/2010 9:18:10 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Quix
Only the small secrets need to be protected; the Big ones are kept secret by public incredulity - Marshal Mc Luhan

Great quote, Quix! And it is the stuff of conspiracy theories that breaks through, sometimes, to end the incredulity.

89 posted on 10/12/2010 9:19:41 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's nye impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

I thought so.

Thanks for your kind reply.


90 posted on 10/12/2010 9:23:03 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

“My point is this, I am disgusted with the kit and kaboodle and to see threads here that divide those who have a common cause for some petty differences really pisses me off.

Sorry if you have a problem with that....I want my Country back. “

I agree. It is high time we unite under the banner of freedom loving patriots.


91 posted on 10/12/2010 9:23:42 PM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Blogger

I don’t care if it is a narrative of liberals, I only care if it is the truth. Ok, some were Deists, most were Christians, fine. Exchange “many” for “some” and my post doesn’t really change, since it was posted to defend Glen Beck by showing an example of our Founding Fathers.

Regarding Jefferson’s redaction of the New Testament, what do you believe was the purpose?


92 posted on 10/12/2010 9:24:09 PM PDT by HerrBlucher (Defund, repeal, investigate, impeach, convict, jail, celebrate.)
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To: Alamo-Girl

THX THX.

LUMPKIN’S COPYRIGHT IS 2009 SO SHOULD INCLUDE THE 2004 UPDATE you mentioned along the way . . . or someone did.

LOL.


93 posted on 10/12/2010 9:26:26 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: HerrBlucher

It was to bring Jesus’ teachings to the Indians. Do I believe Jefferson was a Christian? No. Not from what I read. But he didn’t cut out the supernatural just because he didn’t believe it. He thought that if the Indians could see just the words of Jesus it would have some converting power.


94 posted on 10/12/2010 9:31:27 PM PDT by Blogger
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To: EDINVA
The AA started out as a Christ center group it was called the Cambridge group.
95 posted on 10/12/2010 9:36:13 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to GOD! Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

George
Washington was a Mason and so were many of the generals of both the American and British sides which caused quite a bit of pain cause they beleived more in the lodge than the countries they were fighting for.


96 posted on 10/12/2010 9:45:27 PM PDT by guitarplayer1953 (Rebellion to Tyrants is Obedience to GOD! Thomas Jefferson)
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To: MHGinTN

Sorry, I don’t buy what you are saying. Unless I am completely misreading you, and you are of course free to point where I am, it seems to me that you are trying to explain the Creator in terms of the creation. It’s not going to work. What you are saying is somewhat akin to what, in a much earlier era, was termed modal monarchianism. Your explanation simply does not ring true either in terms of Johannine or creedal theology (which are one and the same, otherwise I would not say, “credo,” “I believe”).

Again, feel free to correct me.


97 posted on 10/12/2010 9:53:34 PM PDT by Belteshazzar
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To: MHGinTN
I'm very impressed with your thinking, dear brother in Christ!

To answer your questions, first, all forces are mediated by particle exchanges.

The photon is the mediator particle for electromagnetism, one of the four fundamental forces and evidently significant to our physical cognition.

However, the graviton is the mediator particle for gravity, also one of the four fundamental forces. Gluons are the mediator particles for the strong atomic force. Electrically charged W-bosons and electrically neutral Z-bosons are the mediator particles for the weak atomic force.

Having said all that, my interest is in geometric physics rather than particle physics.

To me, a particle is like a placemarker in a wave. Here's an interesting article on the difference in our perceptions of reality: Particles versus Waves

On a grander scale, the universe appears to us to be temporally located in present.

I would call it the moment because it includes the past, present and future in the space/time continuum (presuming more than one temporal dimension.)

Mystics sometimes refer to it as the universal now.

98 posted on 10/12/2010 9:54:33 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Quix

I agree and look forward to your comments!


99 posted on 10/12/2010 9:55:33 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl
I won't get too technical, but I am of the notion that the photon preceeded and phase shifted into Gluons and Electrically charged W-bosons and electrically neutral Z-bosons based upon proximity when the ‘cooling’ condensations occurred. Therefore I would place the photon at the basis of all particles and particle wave dualities.

All realms and realities are the Creation of God Almighty, even spiritual realms. All realms and realities have spatio-temporal expressions, albeit the continua of these other realms are very different from our simple 'present fixed' realm. To cut to the chase, even a thought exists in some spatio-temporal continua, we just haven't found the nature of that realm though we have clues that our 4D realm effects changes and transitions in/of that realm. When Jesus knew what was in the mind of His accusers, He also knew to which where/when He would step in order to 'pass through them' when they took up stones to kill Him for recealing He is I Am come in the flesh.

100 posted on 10/12/2010 10:06:13 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they cannot be deceived, it's nye impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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