The Great Birth Index Fiasco

Back in February I requested to see, among other things, the hand-written birth index for 1961 (or microfilms of the hand-written index), which existed in 1980 and was required to be retained permanently. The HI State Archivist confirmed that the HDOH should have the document, but the HDOH said they didn’t have it. The entire history of that request is here.

The concluding response the HDOH gave was a claim that they did not have the handwritten 1961 birth index but that they could print the computer-generated 1961 birth index at a cost of $98.75, which I should send if I wanted them to send the record. They enclosed a Notice to Requester which outlined the reason for the specific cost (which included 4 15-minute periods for an office worker to “segregate” records, in addition to an hour to search for the record). The fine print of the Notice to Requester said that all requester obligations for the request had to be fulfilled within 20 business days or the agency would consider the request abandoned. Because I had never made a request for the computer-generated birth index there were no obligations for me to fulfill. The HDOH was simply telling me what it would cost to fill the request if I chose to make it.

On July 29^th I chose to make that request. I sent an e-mail saying that I would be sending a money order for $98.75 in order to get the computer-generated 1961 birth index and asking if I could have someone pick it up at their office on Thursday, Aug 5^th, if the money order was in their office by Mon, Aug 2. I also sent a hand-written letter officially requesting the computer-generated birth index, together with a copy of the Notice to Requester on which the cost had been stated and a money order for $98.75. My mail delivery confirmation showed that the written request and money order was in the HDOH office at 6:08AM on Aug 4^th. (I’ve mistakenly quoted it as 6:02AM elsewhere, including to the HDOH).

On Monday, Aug 2 I received an e-mail from the HDOH saying that my e-mail request had been marked by their IT Dept as being possible spam; I should re-send. I did not re-send because my question was moot by then and I had already sent the paper request and money order anyway.

On Aug 3^rd Mark Niesse of the AP asked the HDOH for copies of the last 3 requests for Obama’s records. Mine was one of those 3 requests. My e-mail account name was not redacted from the records the HDOH gave Niesse; he contacted me via Facebook to see if he could interview me for an article he was working on. (I did not respond to him until after the article ran.) On Aug 4^th (while my paper request and money order was in their office) Niesse interviewed Janice Okubo, who told him that they offer the computer-generated 1961 birth index for $98.75 but nobody had sent in any money yet and they were asking the AG for a ruling on whether they should continue to “offer” that. She said that Obama is in their 1961 birth index and they allow the public to view index records in their office.

So I have proof that my e-mail request for the computer-generated 1961 birth index had arrived in their office on July 29^th and a paper request and money order had arrived in their office by the start of the day on Aug 4^th – the very day when Janice Okubo told Mark Niesse that they offer the 1961 birth index for $98.75 (the amount of my money order). IOW, I have proof that I had my request and money order for the full amount in the HDOH office while they were still “offering” the 1961 birth index.

Niesse’s article wasn’t actually published until Saturday, Aug 7^th. In response to Okubo’s public statement in that article that they hadn’t received any money from anybody, I contacted Niesse to find out when he had interviewed Okubo and found that it was during the workday on Aug 4th.

Because I was concerned about how Niesse was able to find out my last name when I only use the name “Nellie” in my communications with the HDOH, I also e-mailed a request to see any UIPA responses the HDOH had sent out containing a request by me. They sent me a cover letter and enclosed their response to Niesse’s request, including my July 29^th request - flagged as possible spam but with almost the entire text visible.

I sent the HDOH a Cease and Desist letter , asking them to remove all references to my last name from their contacts with me and from the UIPA responses where they have referenced my last name. They have ignored my request, as their latest response to me contained my last name.

I also contacted the HDOH and after a series of calls and workers was told they couldn’t find a record of my request; they didn’t know what had happened to it but I should contact hdohinfo. So I did. Eventually they told me in an Aug 13^th e-mail that they were sending back my money order because I had abandoned my request since I hadn’t responded to the Notice to Requester within 20 days. And sure enough, they sent my money order back.

I reminded them that the Notice to Requester had been sent to me to tell me that I COULD request the computer-generated 1961 birth index, since the request I HAD actually made (for the handwritten index) could not be filled because that permanent record no longer exists (they claim). I asked them exactly when they say they received my request for a computer-generated 1961 birth index, since it had not been 20 business days since my first contact with their office requesting that particular record. At first they insisted that they had already answered all my questions so I made an actual UIPA Request for a copy of my request for the computer-generated 1961 birth index, including the date that it arrived in their office.

They had already sent back the money order that was included with my paper request. They had replied to my e-mailed request, asking me to re-send it. And they had sent copies of my e-mailed request to both Mark Niesse and myself in response to UIPA requests. That’s 4 different times that the HDOH showed that they had my request in their office - the e-mail request received by July 29 and the snail-mail request by Aug 4^th.

On the 10^th business day they e-mailed to say there were no records responsive to my request – that they had no record of my request for the computer-generated 1961 birth index. What they had acknowledged 4 different times before they now claim they don’t have.

They’ve also said they only collect birth data in 5-year increments so they can’t release the 1961 birth index. So in the same request as in the last paragraph I also requested “to see any communications to or from your office regarding what changed from the time you told me that you could release the computer-generated birth index for 1961 and now, as well as any duly-passed law or regulation which says that index data may only be released in increments of 5 years.”

No records responsive to my request. (It is worth noting that their MARRIAGE INDEX is in a 6-year increment for the years 1960-65 only, based upon copies of birth index pages they sent in response to a request)

I’ve also asked to see their communications asking for a ruling by the Hawaii Attorney General . They responded that there are no records responsive to my request. Compare this with the AG Administrative Rules’ procedures to amend rules (see Subchapter 4 ) or to ask for a declaratory judgment (see Subchapter 5 ) from the AG – which clearly require written communications.

2. The HDOH has changed their claims to say they can only release index data in increments of 5 years. But there are no laws or regulations which say that and they have the physical capability of printing whatever they want. Disclosure of the exact year of birth is apparently not forbidden, because according to Niesse’s article, Okubo already told him that Obama is in their 1961 birth index. HRS 338-18 requires index data to be released to the public.

3. Janice Okubo stated in a public interview for an article that was published nationally that they were asking the Hawaii Attorney General for a ruling on the implementation and/or interpretation of laws and rules – a process which is required to be done in writing. But the HDOH claims there are no communications to or from their office regarding why their “offer” of the 1961 birth index no longer exists.

4. All this is done to keep from having to release index data they claim is already accessible to the public at their office. They have stated that all index data is really about Obama. They have stated that Obama is in the 1961 birth index. But they appear to be lying and/or illegally destroying records, as well as disobeying HRS 338-18, UIPA, and their own Administrative Rules in order to try to avoid having to put their money where their mouth is. I give the complete details about this case because it is representative of a whole host of similar experiences I have had with the HDOH, as those who have read the blog are aware. Sadly, this seems to be typical fare from this government agency. And nobody in Hawaii’s government, media, or law enforcement will hold them accountable for it.

But reasonable people all over this country are asking, “Why? Why so much unethical and illegal behavior to hide the public index records they say they’ve already confirmed?”

Between that information which is at the link you posted, what Butter is doing, and the investigations of a few others the conspiracy is becoming clear. ~Nancy Pelosi Certified Obama for Hawaii. Hawaii never did, that's why there is a special form for Hawaii, different than all the other 49 states. ~The State Department Passport office has lost or destroyed Passport documents which illuminate when Obama's mom first got her Passport and why. ~The Hawaiian Department of Health has changed its rules in order to protect ALL information which might possibly lead to the release of any information regarding Obama --- ILLEGALLY. There is no evidence of any new regulations or official communications regarding when the Government of Hawaii instructed the HDOH to change it's rules. HDOH did it 'on their own' with no legal authority. They are breaking the Laws of the State. ~HDOH has decided to completely restrict ALL information to EVERYONE in order to avoid the appearance of treating Obama's records (or lack there of) differently than anyone else's. Once again, this is a direct violation of Hawaiian State law. There is a vast cover-up going on folks. It makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool. This cover-up is hiding Barack Obama's Birth Records. There are two reasons why. 1) Obama's birth is either listed as a birth at home with no doctor or hospital signature on it. Or 2) there is no long form in Obama's file. A witness as signed a affidavit stating there is no long form in his file. That means Obama is NOT a Natural Born Citizen. As to #1), Hawaii registered every baby ever brought into the office. Why? Because if that child was enrolled in any state program, that child generated federal funds from the United States Government. That includes everything from vaccination programs to school to welfare - anything the state might list a number for to gain more federal dollars for. Hawaii desperately needed the money to deal with the huge influx of immigrants coming from Asia - think VietNam war... So not only are they covering Obama's ass, they are covering up fraud on an state institutional level going back to the days the Islands became a state. Hawaii, in giving up Obama's birth Records, or the lack there of, would also be exposing itself to having to answer the question WHY a baby (lets be hypothetical here for a moment) born in a foreign country - with no birth documents AT ALL - could be registered in the state as having a right to a COLB from the state of Hawaii, thereby giving that child all the benefits of a (fraudulent) birth in the state, INCLUDING AMERICAN CITIZENSHIP. Hawaii is covering Obama's ass because it is covering up Institutional fraud worth untold billions of dollars and an untold number of people with American Citizenship who HAVE NO RIGHT TO IT. And that INCLUDES Obama. Even if the man was born in Hawaii, because of this fraud, Hawaii CANNOT prove that he was born on the island. THAT is why the Hawaiian Democrat Party refused to Certify that Obama is Constitutionally eligible for POTUS. He does not have a form with a Doctor's signature on it, nor was he born in a hospital anywhere in Hawaii. This is the simplest reason as to why Hawaii is doing what it is doing. Many have wondered why Hawaii would be covering Obama's ass. We have wondered why Lingle, a Republican, would be covering Obama's ass. They aren't covering Obama at all really. They are covering up Citizenship Fraud on a MASSIVE scale. Obama just happens to be one of those babies who is included in that bunch, regardless if he was born on the island or not. If he WAS, his documents will show no doctor signature, and will not list a hospital. It has an address on a late filing form. Yes, that is conjecture, but what evidence exists points to just that. Still, if he was born in a house in Hawaii, his records and citizenship would be suspect because literally THOUSANDS of foreign born babies got U.S. citizenship by their parents doing the EXACT same thing, listing a house address as the place of birth. If he was not born on the Islands, then Obama is not a citizen of the united States as his mother could not confer her citizenship upon him, she was too young. That means Obama is British. Because Hawaii is literally illegally locking everything down, I am leaning toward thinking that Obama has a form which lists an address for his birth - a late form filing. Because of the massive fraud which Hawaii engaged in at that time and for years afterwords, Hawaii can't certify him as LEGALLY Constitutionally Eligible for POTUS and in fact DID NOT in its filed form of Certification - Which prompted Nancy Pelosi to fraudulently Certify Barack Obama as Constitutionally Eligible for POTUS. Who has the balls to crack it? Who in the media has the nuts to do it? Who has the GUTS to fully investigate this and expose this story to the world?

Here is that terrible post reformatted:

Between that information which is at the link you posted, what Butter is doing, and the investigations of a few others the conspiracy is becoming clear.

~Nancy Pelosi Certified Obama for Hawaii. Hawaii never did, that’s why there is a special form for Hawaii, different than all the other 49 states.
~The State Department Passport office has lost or destroyed Passport documents which illuminate when Obama’s mom first got her Passport and why.
~The Hawaiian Department of Health has changed its rules in order to protect ALL information which might possibly lead to the release of any information regarding Obama -— ILLEGALLY. There is no evidence of any new regulations or official communications regarding when the Government of Hawaii instructed the HDOH to change it’s rules. HDOH did it ‘on their own’ with no legal authority. They are breaking the Laws of the State.
~HDOH has decided to completely restrict ALL information to EVERYONE in order to avoid the appearance of treating Obama’s records (or lack there of) differently than anyone else’s. Once again, this is a direct violation of Hawaiian State law.

There is a vast cover-up going on folks. It makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool.

This cover-up is hiding Barack Obama’s Birth Records. There are two reasons why. 1) Obama’s birth is either listed as a birth at home with no doctor or hospital signature on it. Or 2) there is no long form in Obama’s file. A witness as signed a affidavit stating there is no long form in his file. That means Obama is NOT a Natural Born Citizen.

As to #1), Hawaii registered every baby ever brought into the office. Why? Because if that child was enrolled in any state program, that child generated federal funds from the United States Government. That includes everything from vaccination programs to school to welfare - anything the state might list a number for to gain more federal dollars for. Hawaii desperately needed the money to deal with the huge influx of immigrants coming from Asia - think VietNam war... So not only are they covering Obama’s ass, they are covering up fraud on an state institutional level going back to the days the Islands became a state.

Hawaii, in giving up Obama’s birth Records, or the lack there of, would also be exposing itself to having to answer the question WHY a baby (lets be hypothetical here for a moment) born in a foreign country - with no birth documents AT ALL - could be registered in the state as having a right to a COLB from the state of Hawaii, thereby giving that child all the benefits of a (fraudulent) birth in the state, INCLUDING AMERICAN CITIZENSHIP.

Hawaii is covering Obama’s ass because it is covering up Institutional fraud worth untold billions of dollars and an untold number of people with American Citizenship who HAVE NO RIGHT TO IT. And that INCLUDES Obama. Even if the man was born in Hawaii, because of this fraud, Hawaii CANNOT prove that he was born on the island.

THAT is why the Hawaiian Democrat Party refused to Certify that Obama is Constitutionally eligible for POTUS. He does not have a form with a Doctor’s signature on it, nor was he born in a hospital anywhere in Hawaii. This is the simplest reason as to why Hawaii is doing what it is doing.

Many have wondered why Hawaii would be covering Obama’s ass. We have wondered why Lingle, a Republican, would be covering Obama’s ass. They aren’t covering Obama at all really.

They are covering up Citizenship Fraud on a MASSIVE scale.

Obama just happens to be one of those babies who is included in that bunch, regardless if he was born on the island or not. If he WAS, his documents will show no doctor signature, and will not list a hospital. It has an address on a late filing form.

Yes, that is conjecture, but what evidence exists points to just that.

Still, if he was born in a house in Hawaii, his records and citizenship would be suspect because literally THOUSANDS of foreign born babies got U.S. citizenship by their parents doing the EXACT same thing, listing a house address as the place of birth.

If he was not born on the Islands, then Obama is not a citizen of the United States as his mother could not confer her citizenship upon him, she was too young.

That means Obama is British.

Because Hawaii is literally illegally locking everything down, I am leaning toward thinking that Obama has a form which lists an address for his birth - a late form filing. Because of the massive fraud which Hawaii engaged in at that time and for years afterword’s, Hawaii can’t certify him as LEGALLY Constitutionally Eligible for POTUS and in fact DID NOT in its filed form of Certification - Which prompted Nancy Pelosi to fraudulently Certify Barack Obama as Constitutionally Eligible for POTUS.

Who has the balls to crack it? Who in the media has the nuts to do it? Who has the GUTS to fully investigate this and expose this story to the world?

(Crickets)

Depends on what information.

They had no problem revealing my last name even though they were supposed to abide by the alias I gave them. They kept doing it even though I sent them a Cease and Desist letter.

But they won’t release a non-certified abbreviated birth, marriage, or death certificate, which their rules and the law say they can disclose to anybody who asks for it.

In both instances they broke the law - one by revealing what they shouldn’t have, and the other by refusing to reveal what they are required.

Is that problematic for you?

The people who could settle this whole thing were the judges and (possibly) the Secretaries of State. But the judges refuse - based on the crime of concealment that was done by Fukino, who knew Obama’s BC is not legally valid but gave deceptive statements that people understood to mean the opposite. And she never corrected the mis-perceptions. That’s concealment in a matter of federal jurisdiction, and it is a federal crime.

And the Secretaries of State most likely didn’t even know that they could get a copy of Obama’s BC without his permission because Fukino kept saying that they can’t release to records without Obama’s permission unless they have a legitimate interest - but the provision that allows a SOS to get a BC without permission was in the HDOH Administrative Rules. Those rules are required by law to be posted on the HDOH website at all times, but Fukino had those rules removed.

So none of this would have happened if Fukino and her workers had not committed crimes.

And they are still breaking laws in their dealings with me. I guess I can at least say they’re consistent.

Not because they won’t do what I want. Because they won’t do what the law says.

I am working on voting Obama out.

But voting him out is not going to change the corruption. The corruption is beyond just him. If we get rid of him we’ve got a million wannabe’s right behind him wanting to do the same stuff he does. Soros has more puppets than he knows what to do with. This isn’t about Obama. It’s about a broken system. As long as we have this system in place - corrupt and with no way for the people to force the rule of law to be followed - we’re going to get the same results.

You know, they say that insanity is doing the same thing over and over again but expecting different results. We’ve elected republicans and we’ve elected democrats and both parties are getting away with crap because once they’re in office they don’t have to follow the rules and laws any more. They put their buddies into the positions to enforce the law, and they’re free as a bird to whatever they darn well please.

See, for me this is not really about Obama at all. Yes, I want Obama gone. But if we cut off that Hydra’s head there will be 3 more where the stump is left, unless we cut out the corruption at its roots.

The Founding Fathers knew that there will ALWAYS be corruption - except when there are powerful checks and balances to deter corruptocrats because they know they don’t stand a chance of getting away with it. And that’s what we have to re-establish. It starts with every government, media, and law enforcement entity in this nation. When every one of them fears the power that we have to hold them to the law and to expose the truth, THEN the system will work.

Until then, we’re arguing and bickering about who killed who. We’re fighting over who gets to screw us next.

We fight the battles one at a time. But when the corruptocrats see that we’re no longer asleep they may begin to take us - and the rule of law - seriously.

And that’s what I’m in this for. I want my kids to live in a world where there is the rule of law, because to hand them anarchy or oppression would be unthinkable to me.

Yep.

The Lawyer working for the Hawaiian Democrat Party was Stanly Ann’s Lawyer in her divorce. that lawyer was working for the Hawaiian Democrat Party as well. Has been for YEARS, 15 I think it is...

He knows and likely has specific records on Barry because of that Divorce.

He knows who Barry is, knew and worked for his mom.

That lawyer is likely to know that Hawaii did engage in massive Citizenship Fraud from the time the State was ratified and became the 50th State.

That lawyer would KNOW balls to bones, that the State of Hawaii could NOT certify that Obama was a Natural Born Citizen of the United States and Constitutionally Eligible to run for and occupy the position of POTUS.

That Lawyer might be the ONLY honest player in this whole mess, other than keeping his mouth shut - lying by omission is still a lie.

He knew Hawaii could not certify Obama... and they refused to.

So Nancy now had her precious parts in a vice..... How to keep Obama on the Ballot in a seemingly constitutional manner? NOT having him on the ballot.... disqualifying him because of the lack of birth state certification was her only other choice. It was either find a way to make it APPEAR he had been certified, or take him off the ballot. Something she didn’t want to do because she WANTED him POTUS. She could work with him. I am willing to bet that she has little such good working relationships with say... Hillary... which would have been the person who would have benefited the most from that act of honesty on the part of Nancy. Somehow I don’t think Hillary and Nancy are BFF’s. There is also of course, the threats of riots if the “first black man” didn’t get the nomination... the accusations of racism... Nancy would have been the most hated person EVER by the black community, not to mention a huge number of brain dead kool-aide drinkers and ..... a HUGE number of Democrat Liberal Donors who have given vast sums of money to Obama... oh no... Nancy couldn’t NOT certify Obama.

So don’t wonder why a BIG supporter of Hillary Clinton, Phil Berg, waded into this constitutionality issue FIRST before the election! Hillary is perfectly well aware of ALL of this. I am willing to bet someone who knew someone got into touch with Phil Berg with the tip that he might be able to help Hillary get the Nomination when it was beginning to become clear that she was losing! Or maybe that friend of a friend of a someone just passed along the information to Berg just as insurance. We will likely never know. Berg has never tipped off what set him onto his path that I know of.

What Nancy did is NOT part of the legal constitutional proceedings for POTUS nominations. Her action ALONE might well invalidate Obama’s Nomination and subsequent election.

There are a rather large number of people and an entire state government invested in covering up Barack Obama’s Birth Records.

Like I said, this makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool.

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