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Nation's foremost thinkers: Obama's fault that people think he's a Muslim (& also he technically is)
Salon ^ | August 20, 2010 | Alex Pareene

Posted on 08/20/2010 5:40:03 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Can you blame the president for misinformation campaigns against him? Some notable conservatives find a way.

With the news that the number of people who think Barack Obama is a Muslim is actually on the rise, lots of people are wondering who, exactly, is responsible for the persistence of this misconception. Some blame irresponsible members of the right-wing media for tacitly encouraging or even outright stating the belief that Obama is un-American, and that his true sympathies lie with the "Muslim world." Others blame Obama himself. And still others claim that Obama technically is a Muslim, so Americans who think that aren't even wrong.

In the "it's Barack Obama's fault that he is lied about, constantly," camp is intrepid Washington Examiner political correspondent Byron York. In his piece today, headlined "Obama has himself to blame for Muslim problem," York lays out a compelling case: Obama admitted that his grandfather was a Muslim, in a barbershop, in 1985. Also, other members of his extended family were and are Muslims. And so therefore it is accurate to describe Obama as having "Muslim roots," which ABC News and USA Today -- both arms of the Obama administration -- said when Obama went to Cairo. And because people just sort of half-pay attention to the news, they took that to mean that the president is a Muslim. And that, friends, is why it is Obama's fault that people think he's a Muslim.

Oh, wait, also:

Pew asked respondents how they learned about Obama’s religion. Most who believe Obama is a Muslim say they learned it through the media. But 11 percent say they learned it through Obama’s “own words and behavior.”

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Politics; Religion; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: 0bamafos; hehatesamerica; islam; muslims; obama; polls; steepedinlies
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Were President Bush's father and stepfather Muslims? Did he attend a Maddrassa?
1 posted on 08/20/2010 5:40:06 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m less worried about the puke being a muzzie than I am about him being a unrepentant communist.


2 posted on 08/20/2010 5:43:51 PM PDT by taillightchaser
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

He talks like a Muslim, walks like a Muslim, acts like a Muslim - can’t imagine why people would think he IS a Muslim? (/Sarc)


3 posted on 08/20/2010 5:43:54 PM PDT by Clairity ("The United States needs to be not so much loved as it needs to be respected." -- VP Dick Cheney)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Where and when was 0 Baptised...that is the litmus test right? with his extremely opaque background we just don’t know anything about him.


4 posted on 08/20/2010 5:44:41 PM PDT by omega4179 (JD Hayworth)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t understand why this is even an issue after the Stephanopolous interview. He admitted right there that he is a Muslim. Case closed.

And stephy sure screwed the pooch on that one. A real journalist would have stopped right there, and instead of correcting him, would have asked “Muslim faith? I thought you were a Christian.” And after Obama backtracks and explains, shephy should have said “wait a minute, you just blurted out you were a Muslim, that was your reflexive response, I am having a hard time now believing your claim to be a Christian.”

That is what a real journalist would have done, not a fellatojournalist like Stephy.


5 posted on 08/20/2010 5:45:53 PM PDT by HerrBlucher (In the White House the mighty White House the Liar sleeps tonight.............)
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To: omega4179

When did he renounce mohammed? Someone at a press conference should ask him that.


6 posted on 08/20/2010 5:46:10 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name now that we have the most conservative government in the world?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama is neither a Christian nor a mulsim - his religion is... Obamism.


7 posted on 08/20/2010 5:48:32 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: omega4179; 2ndDivisionVet

“Where and when was 0 Baptised...that is the litmus test right?”

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No, baptism proves nothing.

Belief is what defines a Christian.

Either you believe that he is God, that he is the only way, that he suffered and died on the cross, and rose again, and that it is his shed blood deposited on the mercy seat in the presence of the Father that paid the price of your sin, or you don’t.

Obama’s answers to Rick Warren’s questions on the TV interview before the election prove that he is not a Christian.
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8 posted on 08/20/2010 5:51:15 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: HerrBlucher

Has anybody ever accused Step-in-awful-stuff of being a journalist?
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9 posted on 08/20/2010 5:53:41 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think it’s because his sympathies clearly lie with the Muslims over the Christians or Jews.

He was the one who said he would stand with the Muslims should political winds blow against them, while saying Pennsylvanians were bitterly clinging to their Bibles.

He was the one who said there was no more beautiful sound than the Muslim call to prayer while attending a so-called Christian church where the pastor screamed “God bless America? No, no, no, God damn America.”

He is the one who wants Muslims to build at or near Ground Zero in New York while threatening Jews for building in Jerusalem.

He is the one who skipped the prayer breakfast and the Boy Scout centennial commemoration while hosting a Muslim Ramaden dinner.

He is the one who says he won’t attend church so he won’t disrupt the services while disrupting life for millions on his various outings through the country to tout his own image.

He is the one who said he recognizes Jesus Christ as A way to God, not as THE way to God.

In countless ways he shows his disregard or even contempt for Christianity and its adherents. In countless ways he goes out of his way to compliment and recognize transnational Muslim organizations and describes countries as governed by Muslims rather than whatever form of government that nation happens to be.

If he is Christian, there isn’t enough evidence to convict him of it while there is ample evidence he identifies with and favors Islam. I’m sorry I can’t hear what he’s saying because his actions are screaming too loudly.


10 posted on 08/20/2010 5:56:33 PM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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To: aquila48

He not muslime, he born in hauaii, he no commie, he white angel hooping and changing rotten amerikaa into paradise.
Soon we all be un-employed, can enjoy gummit vacation. Reech will pay for all of it, so relax, retire and enjoy slavery. Payback bitch!


11 posted on 08/20/2010 5:56:41 PM PDT by Leo Carpathian (fffffFRrrreeeeepppeeee-ssed!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

One thing IS for sure. Every TV show they talk about it on it’s perceived as one of the most awful things a person could be. From print to on air to the blogs they fall all over themselves to clain he isn’t Muslom. Some even go so far as to say “why would these people say such awful things”.

I would think the Musloms in the world are getting the message that being a Muslom must be something Obama doesn’t want to be perceived as. Gattin kinda funny actually.


12 posted on 08/20/2010 5:58:33 PM PDT by CynicalBear
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They left out that as President of the United States the Muslim bowed to a Saudi Prince. That’s a muslim.


13 posted on 08/20/2010 5:59:20 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: Clairity

It is painfully obvious that Obama is a chronic liar so why would Americans believe him when he says that he is a Christian?


14 posted on 08/20/2010 5:59:20 PM PDT by pke
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To: omega4179

on FOX they had lauren Green and others say that he was a Christians because the white house says he sues the camp David chapel.

Well press and FOX for sure what is he, ?
Catholic, Prod what?
What church does he go to?
Why does he not go to church, why does he not celebrate Christmas, Easter etc?
Why did his wife not want the nativity scene and then it had on it a mass killer and other stupid bulbs?
Why did he say and I quote. “My muslim faith”

If you the far left and the press want to say he is a Christian then tell me what exactly he is and why does he not celebrate the holidays.


15 posted on 08/20/2010 6:00:59 PM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

does he still keep a muslim name too which Bush did not have?


16 posted on 08/20/2010 6:01:40 PM PDT by manc (WILL OBAMA EVER GO TO CHURCH ON A SUNDAY OR WILL HE LET THE MEDIA/LEFT BE FOOLED FOR EVER)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The article brought up a point I’ve brought up here many times. Born of a Muslim father, you are a Muslim.

As for “Airtight logic. Obama was born to an atheist who was born a Muslim, and so therefore by the “no-backsies” patrilineal rules of Islam, he was a little baby Muslim, even if he didn’t know it.” We have no evidence Barack Sr. was an atheist. Obama Jr has stated that his dad was a “nonpracticing” Muslim, but that assertion along with the atheist one is just backpedaling and lying to make certain things seem true today.

The article uses the word apostate, but in Islam, you are an apostate if you convert to Islam then leave. If you were born Muslim and convert to Christianity you are a murtad fitri, and the Koran prescribes your fate at the hands of a good, practicing Muslim. Death.


17 posted on 08/20/2010 6:05:00 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why is CNN — or is it MSNBC? (Or is it both?) — making such a big deal of this? Why are they spending precious air time on this. They should just ignore it. Who cares? So what if Obama disses the Day of Prayer for the past two years? So what if he invites people to the white House to celebrate Ramadan (sp?) for the past two years? What is the big deal? Why is the liberal media so concerned with this? Obama is President of the United States. What difference does it make?/really heavy sarcasm LOL.


18 posted on 08/20/2010 6:06:49 PM PDT by goldi (')
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
No misinformation here. Just the facts.

Is 0bama a Muslim?

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19 posted on 08/20/2010 6:08:49 PM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Someone should post his Indonesian school record that shows his religion as “Islam”. That is the only item that I have seen that officially lists his religion. I trust the school record. After all, his mother was atheist and his dad was a muslim. What else are we supposed to think?


20 posted on 08/20/2010 6:13:22 PM PDT by bravedog
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