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Ron Paul: “I don’t believe for a minute that the religion of Islam is our enemy.”
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Posted on 08/20/2010 2:39:14 PM PDT by mnehring

As if we needed anymore proof of Ron Paul’s anti-American treachery — and no, I am not speaking of his inclusion in the Democrats’ list of favorite Republicans (though it’s also quite telling), — he’s finally waded into the Ground Zero mosque controversy where — unsurprisingly — he’s chalked it all up to yet another conspiracy theory, fomented by those war-lovin’ neo-cons:

“I think it’s a big distraction, a grand distraction from the real issues… To me it should have been a grand opportunity, and you really touched on the opportunity, because it’s really a property rights issue, and who owns the property? And it’s also a civil liberties issue. It’s a freedom of speech issue… Property rights and civil rights are one and the same… drives the neo-cons nuts… I don’t believe for a minute that the, quote, religion of Islam is our enemy.”

Really, Ron? And I suppose Al-Qaeda is just a CIA fantasy, too?

For the record, the majority of Americans and politicians who oppose the mosque fully understand the constitutional right to build it. Then again, most of us also understand that Islam is a strident political ideology wrapped up in the cloak of religion, and that jihadists committed an act of war against the United States on September 11, 2001 — not the United States government — all in the name of Islam. Further, understanding the history of Cordoba, we are cognizant of the fact that such a mosque is nothing short of a monument to their bloody victory over the “Great Satan” and 3,000 of its citizens on 9/11.

I  know its tough for you libertarians — much like your foreign policy kindred spirits, liberals — to place a moral judgment on anything, but out of respect for 9/11′s grieving families, it would be nice if you’d grant them some deference on this emotionally supercharged, morally reprehensible issue. It would also be refreshing if you’d actually give your country the benefit of the doubt, instead of blaming it for the existence of a so-called religion that preaches death to infidels, practices pedophilia, commits unspeakable crimes against women, and actively engages in a worldwide, genocidal movement with the ultimate goal of imposing a worldwide Muslim Caliphate.

In short, since you’re so fond of conspiracy theories, maybe you can believe in one that’s actually true: Global Jihad. Then temper your constitutional remarks about the Ground Zero mosque with some intelligence and real compassion for your own countrymen — especially those who lost everything on 9/11.


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To: mnehring

I don’t like RP and here’s another reason to revel in my opinion.


21 posted on 08/20/2010 2:50:33 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: devere
Republicans are so fond of attacking each other, there’s not much work for the Rats to do.

Weeding out the RINOs is necessary, be it McCain or Fraud Paul.

22 posted on 08/20/2010 2:51:27 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehring

What rights did Daniel Pearl have, Ron?

What rights did the people on Flight #93 have, Ron?

And the folks working in the Pentagon?

And the innocent hard working Americans in the WTC, Ron?

The muslims don’t have more rights than the above mentioned as far as I am concerned.


23 posted on 08/20/2010 2:52:45 PM PDT by Carley (For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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To: Vigilanteman

Actually, the religion as written in the Koran ,while it may not itself be an enemy in that it is not a person or a nation, is the ideology of our enemy and is adhered to by ALL that are believing Moslems therefore it is, indeed, our enemy as much as Communism was/is our enemy.


24 posted on 08/20/2010 2:52:48 PM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's "Economics In One Lesson.")
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To: mnehring

Ron Paul is a self-serving egomaniac.


25 posted on 08/20/2010 2:53:02 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner

Is he deliberately sabotaging his son?


26 posted on 08/20/2010 2:53:35 PM PDT by Carley (For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know.)
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To: mnehring

“I know its tough for you libertarians — much like your foreign policy kindred spirits, liberals — to place a moral judgment on anything”

We place a very high moral judgement on liberty, and a very low moral judgement on those who deny liberty, as guarenteed in the Constitution. ( You do remember that inconvenient little document?)


27 posted on 08/20/2010 2:53:40 PM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: mnehring

Our boy Ronny has his head up and locked again....but when all is said and done he is a 1000% better than a dumbcrat.... But a stump would be brighter than a dumbcrat....


28 posted on 08/20/2010 2:56:09 PM PDT by RVN Airplane Driver ("To be born into freedom is an accident; to die in freedom is an obligation..)
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To: Daveinyork

I was wondering if a libertarian would show his face here.

So tell me. You support what your boy Ron Paul is saying? That Islam is not the enemy?


29 posted on 08/20/2010 2:56:09 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (PALIN/MCCAIN IN 2012 - barf alert? sarc tag? -- can't decide)
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To: Daveinyork
liberty, as guarenteed in the Constitution.

Which liberty is that?

30 posted on 08/20/2010 2:56:33 PM PDT by Mojave (Ignorant and stoned - Obama's natural constituency.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

“So tell me. You support what your boy Ron Paul is saying? That Islam is not the enemy?”

I think Paul is is own “boy.” why do you think he is mine?

You disagree with Paul, and then choose to slander all libertarians. You must not believe much in individual freedom, which is at the heart of conservatism, making you a progressive.


31 posted on 08/20/2010 2:59:12 PM PDT by Daveinyork
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To: Daveinyork

You mean Liberty like the 10th Amendment in regards to the states and citizen’s right to determine things like zoning laws? The land this is being built on is technically the property of the city, all land in Manhattan is owned by the Port Authority and given long term leases to the builders.

No one is denying the right to practice religion, they are simply asserting 10th Amendment rights when it comes down to zoning in their communities? Or do you think the Feds should tell NYC that they have to allow the mosque wherever the builders want to put it?


32 posted on 08/20/2010 2:59:24 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: Mojave

liberty, as guarenteed in the Constitution.
Which liberty is that?
 
 
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The liberty to smoke weed, of course.


33 posted on 08/20/2010 2:59:45 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (PALIN/MCCAIN IN 2012 - barf alert? sarc tag? -- can't decide)
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To: Daveinyork

You didn’t answer my question.

You and Paul are libertarians. And you call me a progressive?

lol. That’s rich.


34 posted on 08/20/2010 3:01:55 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (PALIN/MCCAIN IN 2012 - barf alert? sarc tag? -- can't decide)
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To: RichInOC; All

This is not a multicultural issue....its far greater

Here in this issue, we get to see the power of Sharia. Cash coming in from Iran, Saudiland etc etc even Pakistan.

When the founding fathers thought of America, their little baby, the last thing they wanted was an invasive force to stifle, smother it, and then overwhelm it and kill it.

Most people do not recognize that what happens in a mosque is sedition. Pure and simple. Islam is not just a “religion”, it is a cult. Larger than that though, it is a political system, it is it’s own government, it’s economic system (which includes funding new mosque construction), its judicial...is in its sharia, and its military (jihadis) all rolled into one with one intent ...and that is to rule wherever they take root. It is a invasive, systemic infection looking to take over the host once it has quantum.

This is not just a “religion”, but something that cloaks itself in those terms so it should not be given the same treatment contemplated under the first amendment. The Korans Sharia rules are to consume whatever government there is wherever it goes.
Islam is political, and it’s goal is to supplant and replace. Globally.

When the founding fathers thought of America, their little baby, the last thing they wanted was an invasive force to stifle, smother it, and then overwhelm it and kill it.

The sooner America learns this , the better.

Obama? Obama and Company? Should be tried for treason in this issue for promoting the establishment of a foreign government on our soils. He is doing nothing to protect America as per his oath. Also, as a Muslim, he knows this, he know far better, he knows sharia, but is looking to deceive America.

For all interested...Wanna learn more?

http://thehayride.com/2010/08/louisiana-at-leading-edge-in-fight-against-shariah/#more-5392

and this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ib9rofXQl6w&feature=player_embedded

Lets keep America, America!

Obama? Obama and Company? Should be tried for treason in this issue for promoting the establishment of a foreign government on our soils. As a Muslim, he knows this, he knows sharia, but is looking to deceive America.


35 posted on 08/20/2010 3:02:59 PM PDT by himno hero
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To: mnehring
Ron Paul: “I don’t believe for a minute that the religion of Islam is our enemy.”

No, Ron, the religion of Islam isn't your enemy because it's not a person, but there are many Muslims who are.
36 posted on 08/20/2010 3:04:05 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: mnehring
Does Ron Paul know anything about Islam? I would love to know on what basis Ron Paul makes his determination that Islam is a benign religion? What would it take to prove that Islam is anything but a religion of peace. How many terrorist acts and bloody conflicts does it take? My view is that Libertarians, as a rule, are practical atheists (this is different from philosophical atheists). From their point of view, all religions are the same, and that religious views should have no influence in matters of state. People should be allowed to build whatever they want on private property. In the same way, people should be allowed to determine to whom they serve or not serve in their own business, or whom to rent or not rent. I can see why this view is attractive; however, as you know, the government does not allow such actions. The government dictates the limitations of private ownership. I am not allowed to discriminate based upon the government's definition of what constitutes discrimination. It does not matter as to whether I agree with this or not, but we have to work with reality. For instance, certain states or municipalities have laws regulating how close a liquor store can be to a church or school. My point is that there are many factors that determine what someone or something can do on private property. It is not an absolute right for someone to build whatever they want on private property.
37 posted on 08/20/2010 3:04:59 PM PDT by Nosterrex
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To: Responsibility2nd

They are to the Constitution what Fred Phelps is to the Bible. They get an idea in their heads then they twist the Constitution to mean whatever justifies their idea. They also have the same righteous indignation that Fred Phelps has, believing that they have almost a divine authority blessing theirs as the only pure interpretation (thus the claims they are the only people ‘defending liberty’ etc).


38 posted on 08/20/2010 3:05:09 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehring
I don't know why people don't read up more on Ron Paul. The whole Austrian School is crazy and based in fantasy, a sort of right wing version of communism. They believe in anarcho-capitalism as they call it and want to experiment with it on national levels, just like the Soviet Union did with their unproven economics.

Truly crazy.

39 posted on 08/20/2010 3:06:06 PM PDT by oldleft
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To: Responsibility2nd

Did you agree with everything that George W. Bush did? I didn’t, yet I supported him. He did some very dangerous stuff, like medicare part D, no child left behind, and he fought the war on terror like it was some kind of politically correct social program. He should have killed every foreign head of state who supported terrorism, and kept killing them until terrorists had no place to hide.

I don’t agree with Ron Paul on a lot of things, but I agree that the government is way too big, way too expensive, and way too oppressive of our liberties, and I’m talking about federal, state, and local here, and Renaldus Magnus would also agree with that.

You must love big government, or you wouldn’t be mindlessly slandering those who don’t.


40 posted on 08/20/2010 3:07:50 PM PDT by Daveinyork
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