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Is Obama Illegally Occupying the Oval Office Because He Is Not a Natural Born Citizen?

Posted on 08/15/2010 11:00:39 AM PDT by Man50D

Freepers have been debating for some time if Obama is or isn't illegally occupying the White House because he does or does not fulfill the natural born citizenship requirement in Article 2 Section 1 of the Constitution. I thought it would be interesting to put the matter to an informal vote to see where Freeperland in general stands on the issue. OK Freepers, start spewing!


TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: birthers; certifigate; naturalborncitizen; obama; truthers
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To: Man50D

Oh no, not again!

Not unless our congress critters grow b*lls, this subject will just die by the wayside as it already has many times. We are the only nation that is not sure that their national leader is constitutionally qualified to hold that position — yet we are afraid to find out the truth.

I guess we should wish that the problem will resolves itself or just blows away. One thing is for sure, the longer we wait to get to the truth the worse off we will be in the end.


21 posted on 08/15/2010 11:17:38 AM PDT by 353FMG (ISLAM - America's inevitable road to destruction.)
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To: Man50D; Two Thirds Vote Aye

Caligula is illegally occupying the White House. He does not meet the Constitutional requiremnt.

2/3rds, ping for your observation.


22 posted on 08/15/2010 11:18:56 AM PDT by Jemian
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To: Man50D

I’m into genealogy and found Obama’s American family going back generations. But when trying to find his recent history I ran into so many brick walls it’s a wonder I don’t have a concussion.

In regard to the Obama Certification of Live Birth posted on the internet:
The Hawaii DOH has not verified that the document was issued by their office. However, there are two documents that could prove if the internet COLB was issued by the Hawaii DOH, but they won’t release them, even through UIPA requests.


23 posted on 08/15/2010 11:19:32 AM PDT by Jonah Vark (Any 5th grader knows that the Constitution declares the separation of powers.)
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To: Jemian
2/3rds, ping for your observation.

Just 2/3rds? ;O)
24 posted on 08/15/2010 11:23:23 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it! www.FairTaxNation.com)
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To: Man50D
The State of Hawaii certified that he was eligible as a citizen. Any other evidence - announcements in the Star-Bulletin, doctor's evidence, comments from relatives in Kenya - doesn't prove anything. We don't know, but we have to presume legally the President is eligible.

Having said that, we must work hard on getting 2/3 majorities in the House and the Senate to force his resignation.

25 posted on 08/15/2010 11:23:36 AM PDT by GAB-1955 (I write books, love my wife, serve my nation, and believe in the Resurrection.)
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To: Man50D

Evidently a Citizen of the World trumps a US Citizen!


26 posted on 08/15/2010 11:24:22 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: himno hero

Your Senator and Repersentive has already legitimized him.


27 posted on 08/15/2010 11:24:26 AM PDT by BlueMoose
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To: Man50D

No. Zero (or whatever his name is) is not a Natural Born Citizen qualified to be President of the USA.

There are too many unanswered questions, and everyone is shying away from answering them. Especially Zero and his lawyers are not answering them; and then, spending millions not to answer.

Why has the phony/forged short form birth certificate not become a MAJOR scandal?

Too many people are covering for him. Why?
Why are Republicans and Fox news afraid to fully discuss?

Something (a lot) is really rotten in Washington DC!


28 posted on 08/15/2010 11:25:29 AM PDT by ADSUM (Democracy works when citizens get involved and keep government honest.)
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To: TexasCajun; Man50D
Evidently a Citizen of the World trumps a US Citizen!

That's what the media kept trying to push on us. I am thinking especially of Nicholas Kristof of the New York Times in his March 2007 column (with the title "Obama: Man of the World").

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D0CEED81431F935A35750C0A9619C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=all

29 posted on 08/15/2010 11:28:31 AM PDT by thecodont
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To: Man50D
Is obama in the White House illegally? Without question. He is a plant...we have no college transcripts, multiple social security numbers, a questionable birth certificate, Kenyan relatives claiming he was born in Kenya, his ties to dubious well-documented haters of America and the republic....and the millions he has spent hiding and covering up his past. Seems like a lot of help behind this imposter in the White House. Someday it will come out, hopefully while I'm still alive. Everyone thinks that if obama is not a citizen then Hillary would have uncovered this and won the nomination..well, Hillary is operating within the same machine and gets her orders from Obama's controller. Throw in Acorn, Chicago corruption, Soros, the New World Order and there we have one big pile of vomit which spewed this president.
30 posted on 08/15/2010 11:29:03 AM PDT by DefeatCorruption
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To: Man50D

Good poll for FR.

My quick answer is yes, and no

1. If he was born outside of the U.S. - as a constitutional law “professor” he has knowledge that he is not a NBC and each certification he made, or allowed to be made during the election process is criminal. This would include certs by others and include the bogus internet non-bc that Congress may have relied on. Fraud regarding SS# or student aid might not bear on eligibility but would support removal.

2. If he was born in the U.S. - but with an alien father, (?) criminal liability is not clear as the law is not settled.


31 posted on 08/15/2010 11:29:42 AM PDT by frog in a pot (Wake up America! You are losing the war against your families and your Constitution!)
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To: Man50D

Birthers are an overrated fringe movement. Nutballs like Taitz still carry the torch, but the rest of us would rather concentrate on concrete matters of getting conservative majorities in Congress in the fall by attacking Obama for what he has actually done. Normal people have little interest in chasing ghosts.


32 posted on 08/15/2010 11:30:29 AM PDT by mquinn (Obama's supporters: a deliberate drowning of consciousness by means of rhythmic noise)
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To: Man50D


33 posted on 08/15/2010 11:30:53 AM PDT by Diogenesis ('Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God' - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Man50D

Was he born in Kenya? Sure, could be. Could have been born in Hawaii. Either way, he isn’t going to produce a birth certificate. Even if a Kenyan one DID exist, trust me it is long since burned, the ashes dissolved in acid and the refuse scattered in the ocean. May as well just drop it.


34 posted on 08/15/2010 11:30:59 AM PDT by NCBraveheart (BARACK OBAMA....A GIANT SACK OF SUCK!)
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To: Man50D

probably, but it’s too late now


35 posted on 08/15/2010 11:42:09 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: mquinn

Nobody asked you to post on these threads.You can go play somewhere else where us Birthers wont annoy you.Have a nice day.


36 posted on 08/15/2010 11:43:20 AM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: gop4lyf

>The fact is he is hiding something on his birth certificate that he doesn’t want us knowing.<

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Yet there are many who are privy to this information. These are the guilty parties in the conspiracy to defraud the nation.

When the truth comes out, if ever, these parties must be held liable together with the main conspirator, whether they’re RAT or PUB or whether they are members of this or the previous administration. Throw the book at them!


37 posted on 08/15/2010 11:44:47 AM PDT by 353FMG (ISLAM - America's inevitable road to destruction.)
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To: NCBraveheart

That would be playing right into the hands of the left.Nothing doing.


38 posted on 08/15/2010 11:45:25 AM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Man50D

He failed to qualify.

To me he is like a person that was hired with a padded resume and forged documents stating his credentials to be hired.

Sorta like hiring day labor from Home Depot, except your day labor decides to steal your company, wants to sleep with your children take your wages and religion away and make you his servant.


39 posted on 08/15/2010 11:47:32 AM PDT by Eye of Unk ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act" G.Orwell)
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To: Man50D

“FREE THE LONG FORM!”


40 posted on 08/15/2010 11:48:58 AM PDT by Dryman ("FREE THE LONG FORM!")
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