Posted on 08/09/2010 11:50:12 PM PDT by NY Hockey Mom
Now that I know I’m just a bigot for raising questions about homosexuality (among other things), I may as well just come out with it.
Why is it that women who dig women prefer women who look like men, or some strange version of men? If they really like women, why don’t they look like women?
Why is it that many homosexual men act like outrageous stereotypical versions of women in order to attract other men? Wouldn’t it make more sense if lesbians were all feminine and homosexual males were more masculine?
Just asking. Really, I don’t understand it all and if someone could explain, please do.
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I have no idea. I also have no idea why some men find some women attractive.
I think it has something to do with love and attraction and all that. Homosexuals are human beings. Just because I don’t want their crap spouted in schools or made the equivalent of normal marriage doesn’t make them demons or aliens.
My take on it is that male homosexuality is primarily about brutality, so there are effeminate homosexuals who enjoy playing the battered woman. Of course, there are effeminate homosexuals like Obamao who want to be the batterer, so he takes it out on us, the victims, because Michelle plays the butch role in their relationship.
I am not gay but I found a tiny little piece of the picture that puzzles me - similar to what you describe. I wondered why gay men like show tunes and Judy Garland - that kind of thing. I bought a book somewhere that was written by a gay man to help us straights understand the gay aesthetic. Ultimately - I very quickly had to stop reading it because it was purposefully obscene. By that I mean the writer could not imagine explaining some of this without the most graphic, obscene detail. I don’t believe he was trying to offend - he just couldn’t explain otherwise.
Anyway, tip toeing among the obscenity before I gave up - I found it interesting that gay men supposedly like Judy Garland because she was ‘allowed’ to be vulnerable. They felt the audience was drawn into her eyes and her fragile heart - drawn in by her vulnerability. They did not feel, in the world of men, that they were allowed to show vulnerability nor did they receive comfort - the way that the audience ‘wishes’ to comfort Judy Garland, by others. It was as if they were wishing to be the rose among the thorns or the diamond before the foil - they almost seemed to see the world of straight men as being resigned to blending in with the background and they wanted to be the ‘gem’ or centerpiece. I don’t see we women roaming the work place as gems or centerpieces but I suppose in my family - my mother was the center of our affection.
So to dress as Judy for drag purposes etc. is to ‘get’ to be that vulnerable waif and to receive, or invite, the compassion of others. There was a sense, in reading what I did, that they were also drawn by the movie star thing - that she was perceived as more talented/valuable/precious etc. and therefore needed to be held up, admired, perceived as especially sensitive and vulnerable and therefore sheltered the way one shelters special, valuable, fragile people. I suppose that last part is similar to why all Hollywood groupies gravitate toward celebrities.
Since it’s just us ladies here I’ll further comment that I have wondered in the past, why straight men don’t seem to seek a sense of ‘safety’ that many women describe in relation to their mates. If it’s a human emotion, why wouldn’t they? By that I mean, the arms of the man I love around me, my head on his shoulder - that kind of safety. Not really freedom from crime etc. just the innate sense of ‘home’ or ‘safe’ that we get when with the man we love. I asked a man I was in a relationship with about this but it was hard for him to understand what I meant. He felt ‘safe’ as a normal state. But having read that book by the gay author made me think that gay men have the similar instinct women do - the appeal of men partially for that darned sense of safety. I say ‘darned’ because men don’t need it as much as we sometimes do. They are generally physically safer everywhere and a creep would rather mug a woman than a man. So it would be nice if men liked to hug us to feel that sense of security and we women experienced ‘safety’ as a normal state! And I wonder - did serial murderer Ted Bundy’s wife feel that sense of safety around her man???? I hope I haven’t wandered too far off your topic. I look forward to what we might learn from responses to your post.
They can do anything they want in private I just don’t want it in my face!
Up until a few years ago the behaviors were considered INSANE. Legally. Professionally. IN SANE !!
They were right.
The Bible spells it out very clearly in Romans. Notice HOW MANY TIMES, it says God “gave them up or over”. In other words, they slowly go INSANE and that is why the behavior gets worse and worse and some of these fags are just FLAMING QUEER. Their minds are gone. They are just bags of water and chemicals running on left over thoughts and subroutines, incapable of reason and headed for both physical, mental and spiritual death.
-— BIBLE Below
For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; 19Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. 20For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: 21Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened. 22Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools, 23And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
24Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves: 25Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
26For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: 27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; 29Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, 30Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, 31Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful: 32Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
Honestly, most gay men I know/knew were masculine or at least down the middle average acting. I think the effeminate ones just stand out more so we tend to think of them as the stereotype.
I don't think this is entirely true. I think a lot of lesbians are in fact attracted to feminine women, but since it appears that lesbianism has a strong hormonal connection, the pushiest lesbians are often going to look more like men, and the women they can get, also being lesbians, may not be the most feminine.
Why is it that many homosexual men act like outrageous stereotypical versions of women in order to attract other men?
Why do some gay men have gay-sounding voices? I really doubt that this is something they practice. I'm not sure they can help it or that it is done intentionally to attract other men. Also, apparently some gay men are turned off by effeminate types.
I have noticed that with both lesbians and gay men, there are often couples where one is clearly playing a male role and one is more feminine. But there are other cases with gay male couples where both seem very masculine. For some reason there don't seem to be as many examples of lesbian couples where both are very feminine. Maybe they are more discreet.
Who ever you are, I want you to know I have been asking myself this very same question for years. Of course I never got a really smart answer so I am glad you have brought this issue to light. Not that the world will stop when we have our Eureka moment but I for one, will rest much easier at night knowing the answer. Thank you for asking.
LOL... who knows. I have no idea why any woman considers any male attractive, let alone why homosexuals do. Men are disgusting. I know. I am one.
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Haha, read that and thought, “hey, I was just going to write that same thing, darnit.” then I noticed it was you. LOL. Friends think alike.
I have wondered about the gay sounding voices. One of the gay men I worked with escaped my gaydar for some time. He was not ‘the Marlboro Man’ but he was not effeminate by any means. Finally he traveled with his boyfriend and another female friend of mine. She was shocked to report that our tall, masculine friend spoke with a feminized voice and a LISP around his boyfriend. He also portrayed himself as unable to reach something on a kitchen shelf so his boyfriend would do it for him. So for him, it was a coy affectation but I don’t think it is necessarily so for others.
What also makes me cringe about this is that sometimes I get the feeling these gay men have very very very LOW opinions of women - even though they emulate us - in that they see us a caricatures, feeble and ‘less-than’, possibly pretending at femininity, using ‘wiles’ to get a man to reach something on a shelf or almost to the extent that our voices (like everything about us) are affectations too (as if, in reality, our voices resonate like line backers?)
I think it has some strange connection to the smell of Crisco and feces between the sheets. Who knows?
Hate to be a guy butting in where “it’s just us ladies here,” but I might be able to enlighten a small point. You say that “the appeal of men [is] partially for that darned sense of safety. I say ‘darned’ because men don’t need it as much as we sometimes do.” Nope, we don’t. But we need to PROVIDE that sense of safety to be fulfilled. When a woman is in our arms with her head on our shoulder feeling safe, we feel that all is right in the world. Without that, the world can be a cold empty place. At least, that’s my perspective.
Hmmmm....I began to think ‘ah but you (men) don’t know what you’re missing (sense of safety)!’ and then I realized perhaps I don’t know what I’m missing (the ability to grant that sense of safety). :)
I wonder if you and I are both speaking in the past tense though - the modern male is a little more stressed out and wishing the women in his life were a little more self sufficient that way.
Understanding a sick and depraved mind is a very hard task
What man wants a sense of safety?
The love of life is the love of DANGER!;-)
Safety is as dull as dishwater!
It’s difficult to speculate about the symptoms and states of each individual’s mental disorder. Suffice to say it gives us pause to step back and give thanks that we can’t relate.
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