Posted on 07/04/2010 3:48:56 AM PDT by Scanian
Topping last week's legal stories was the Supreme Court's decision in McDonald v. Chicago, holding that the Second Amendment -- which the Supreme Court just two years ago interpreted to protect an individual right to own a gun -- also protects the individual right to own a gun against state and local interference.
Many people were unimpressed, regarding this as a statement of the obvious. Others -- like Rush Limbaugh -- were alarmed, noting that what should have been an obvious statement of a right specifically protected in the Constitution nonetheless made it by a bare 5-4 vote in the Supreme Court.
Both of these views have their merit, but because I'm a glass-is-half-full kind of guy, let me offer a positive lesson from this experience, one with relevance for today's motivated Tea Party activists and depressed conservatives and libertarians alike. Because the story of the Second Amendment, and of gun rights generally, over the past two decades is a story that offers hope for those interested in protecting and restoring liberty in all sorts of areas.
Nowadays, it's hard to find a Democrat outside of the party's deepest-blue sanctuary cities who will argue against private ownership of guns.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...
The question of "reasonable" gun control is still unanswered.
“SCOTUS ruling shows how far gun rights have come”
The sad, sick part of this entire ‘issue’ is that it is an issue, at all. The Second Amendment is clear and succinct. There should be NO argument over its meaning.
Or course, that never stopped the progressives, socialists, or other assorted liberals...
It’s time to take back the country. Reaffirming the Second Amendment is a good place to start.
As long as there are libs, we must stay alert, because these bastards will never quit.
I am about as libertarian as one can get, but there is a difference. A nutcase with freedom of speech is a diminished threat to a free society (there is the example of a Hitler, or any other charismatic, to worry about). But a nutcase with a gun is a different matter entirely, and I am quite ok with access to firearms being restricted for children, felons (real felons rapists, murderers, arsonists, burglers, etc., I don't mean our modern make believe felons), and the mentally disturbed.
And that's exactly what Daley's new Gun Law does (there was a thread on it yesterday).
Out of all the items in it that was delineated in the article, only one mirrors IL's state law -- on transporting a weapon. Every thing else is more restrictive. And one part even surpasses Federal Law and BATF requirements for being able to get a Dealer or C&R (collector) License!
In fact the winner of the Chicago Gun Lawsuit, Mr McDonald, 'prolly' won't be able to go through all the hoops, and COSTS, to get Daley's fricken 'gun permit'. So in fact, Mr McDonald won -- nothing.
But all is not lost, 'yet'. It's my understanding a new lawsuit is already awaiting to be filed against Daley. oops I mean 'Chicago' (/s). And there is still that IL State Law that exempts any person, in any city, who uses an 'illegal gun' in defense of his life, family, or property.
Daley just likes wasting *his* taxpayer's money on frivolous 'carp'.
Since when is it OK to charge ANY fee to exercise a constitutional right?
This should be the next pro-gun approach.
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Mr. McDonald and I will most likely be dead before this ends, SCOTUS is playing politics and they know it! all SCOTUS did was create a situation with no winners or losers in the political game.
That is correct, the Thomas statement about the fourteenth was irrelevant to original intent.
I concur.
The costs I was referring to was for the 'mandatory firearm safety classes' that all permit seekers must take and pass.
An older gentleman like Mr McDonald is 'prolly' on Social Security and doesn't have the extra cash laying around for those. And if he, or someone like him, doesn't own a car, getting to a Gun Shop in a suburb where these safety classes, and gun ranges are at will be difficult at the least.
On those two items alone, I would definitely classify as, 'an infringement' and contrary to the 2A and the two SCOTS decisions. And what the Permit (Registration) 'Fee' will be, I have no idea, I haven't seen that. But knowing Daley, he'll make it as unreasonable as legally possible.
So even though Mr McDonald 'won' in court, in reality he didn't win anything, 'for himself'.
an aside:
The cost for an IL FOID Card(1) is *only* $10.00 but now it's good for Ten Years. It used to be only valid for Three Years and that was a pain in the rear. And the color photo you must also submit with your FOID application can be had at a Walgreen's Drug store for about $7.00 (IIRC) if you can't take and print a picture yourself at home you have that 'extra' cost too.
(1) Anyone who even wants to TOUCH a Firearm or even a 'bullet' in IL must have a Valid FOID Card. So if I have one, and the wife doesn't, 'technically' she can't even touch my guns or ammo. This is the same in any IL Gun Shop. You must first show your FOID Card and then the Salesman will hand you a weapon to look at.
Yep me too. I'll also 'be gone' before this is 'finalized'.
And its crap like what Daley is pulling, and all the Dems have, is why we fled Chicago when we got married back in '75. And I made sure we even left Crook County which the RATS have always had *almost* complete control.
No one on this forum advocates giving the same rights to felons(all the ones you mention are felons)mentally ill people. Instant background checks are fine with all of us. Telling us we have to have a permit to carry or that we can't carry outside of our homes are not alright with us.
You must have a boatload of new laws in mind to prevent such people from having knives, cars, or access to gasoline.
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