Obama Family: "Barack Obama Sr Married Anna Toot in Hawaii" "Their union produced B. Obama Jr."

All Africa ^ | 15 August 2004 | John Oywa

[esquirette]

That is a valid theory, for certain. But also, he favors Malcolm X quite a bit. It would not surprise me to find that Obama Sr. was tagged to cover a known indiscretion.

[grey_whiskers]

This is all bullsh*t you know.

Obama had no father, if you catch my drift. He's "The Obamessiah"...^TM /Olbermann-Matthews mode>

Have you accepted Barack H. Obama as your personal savior (mmm, mmm, mmm)?

Cheers!

[Greenperson]

Yes. But did you notice the discrepancy with the dates? Originally, she stated that she babysat for him when he was an BIG 7 month-old and her own daughter was 18 months old. Then she said that her daughter was born in July 1959. Do the math.

Only after it was pointed out to Jerome Corsi at WND and he re-interviewed Toutonghi and questioned her math, did she suddenly change her story. Then the original reporter changed/updated her story.

A woman, who was young and a new mother herself at the time, should remember very well whether she’s babysitting two infants in diapers as opposed to one 7-month-old and her own child who WOULD HAVE BEEN 2 1/2 years old in spring 1962, not an 18-month-old. A 2 1/2 year-old is probably potty trained.

How did Stanley Ann find this apartment so quickly after giving birth? Why do some reports state that she lived in a student dormitory (Laurelhurst?) before moving to the Capitol Hill apartment? Do you think student dorms allowed for infants, back in 1961? Mary Toutonghi, although she said she managed those apartments, can’t remember when Stanley Ann moved in.

Do you know that Toutonghi now lives in Alaska and was interviewed in 2008 (prior to the babysitting story coming out)? That interview involved how Obama and other Democratic campaign yard signs were stolen from her property. So she was a supporter of Obama, and yet, when her yard signs got swiped, she didn’t mention to the reporter who covered that event and wrote a story about it, that she once babysat Obama.

Odd timing. Wouldn’t you say? Mary turns up in a story in Sept. 2008 and then in early 2009, another story appears where Mary suddenly remembers that she babysat for the man she supported for POTUS in 2008. We’re apparently supposed to believe that, having heard the name Obama in 1961/62, having babysat for a white woman named Obama who had a black baby, that when he first ran on the Democratic ticket, she didn’t realize that the man was the same as the child she supposedly babysat. Right.

So far, the only people who claim to have seen Barry the baby in Washington are high school friends (Democrats and most of them teachers, for some inexplicable reason) and this babysitter, who can’t get her timeframe right.

Curiously, Toutonghi also told the reporter that she has NO photos from that time. From when her own daughter was a baby. When she herself was a new mother. No photos. Sound plausible?

About as plausible as the high school friend whose 1960 yearbook couldn’t be located. And the 1960 high school yearbook from the public library that also coincidentally went missing.

Make of it what you will. It’s all curious and nothing with Obama is ever simple. Nothing ever hangs together. Does it?

[Greenperson]

Thanks, David. I thought as much.

[little jeremiah]

Lucy, did you see Greenperon’s comment? Interesting.

[Natural Born 54]

I was catching up on this thread - just finished the last comment.

I read your theory about Madelyn being the mother and BO Sr. the father and tried a little Sherlock Holmes approach. First, let’s say that Mad is mother and let’s also say that Barack Jr. just looks too much like Stanley (chin most obviously) NOT to be related to him by blood.

Next, since I personally believe that the father is Malcolm X (ears most definitely and more) is his father, how could Madelyn be the mother, Malcom X the father and the baby also be blood related to Stanley?

I have read enough about Madelyn and Stanley to know that there are inconsistencies in their backgrounds and maybe some photos that have been phonied up of the two of them so maybe there is room for some speculation about them. What if, instead of being husband and wife, Madelyn and Stanley are brother and sister? Ann, by looks, is Stan’s daughter but her mother could be someone else and Ann only posed as the daughter of the two of them. If they were some kind of spies or commies on a mission, their living arrangement could easily be for appearances sake only and the real circumstances something else entirely.

Madelyn was around 3 years older than Malcolm X - insignificant in these things and biologically there’s no reason we know of that would rule out the two of them producing a baby. Malcolm X was certainly capable of having kids as we know.

Well, what do you think? Are there enough photos of Madelyn and Stanley that we could look carefully at them side by side? Is there anything written anywhere about Madelyn traveling in 1960-61? Is this totally nuts?

[Fred Nerks]

Think like a man, if you had a chance at a silly young girl, or the mother...which would you choose?

[Natural Born 54]

Well, yeah, but (from a woman’s perspective) I think Ann was pretty ugly. That great big jaw - not good. The only photos that made her look good were the nudie ones - and I’m talking about how she looked from the neck up.

Just trying to fit BP2’s thesis into the picture and can’t get by the resemblance between BO and grandpa (and of course Ann).

[Fred Nerks]

...- and I’m talking about how she looked from the neck up.

agreed, but the images from the high school photos don't really flatter her, this is how she was in 1970/71

[tutstar]

http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=obama%201988

If anyone has time to look through the archives maybe there is some info there. I honestly would love to but just have too many other priorities right now.

[Beckwith]

Obama Sr. was not just a wife cheater, but a wife beater as well.

If the Indonesian ex-nanny is to be believed.

"At a certain point I made the decision not to think about who my real father was. He was dead to me even when he was still alive. I knew that he was a drunk and showed no concern for his wife and children. That’s enough."

Mark Ndesandjo.

Obama's half-brother Mark Ndesandjo is the son of Barack Obama Sr. and his third wife, an American woman named Ruth Nidesand who runs the up-market Maduri kindergarten in Nairobi.

[LucyT]

. . . . Check out # 343, and # 346.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/2501812/posts?page=343#343

[Faith]

FMD was born on the last day of 1905; so in 1960, for most of the year, he would have been 54. Not sure about the barmaid. :)

[bgill]

She didn’t have cause to think about her former charge until 2004, when she came across his first book, “Dreams from My Father.” Then she saw he was the keynote speaker at the Democratic National Convention in 2004. “Since I found the book, ‘Dreams from My Father,’ when it was first published, then when I was working on the 2004 presidential campaign and realized he was the convention speaker, it blew me away. And then this,” she said.

Oh, sure, she just happened to find Dreams in Soldotna, Alaska (population 4,200). Did the blogger interview Toutonghi or did he just do a re-write from other sources? That makes a lot of difference in getting facts and dates correct. Fred - It's stretching it, but could Toutonghi be shortened to Tout?

[Fred Nerks]

... It's stretching it, but could Toutonghi be shortened to Tout?

you is more than just a pretty face, LOL!

[bgill]

My feets is purdy, too!

[Brown Deer]

Philipe Toutonghi born in Turkey about 1903 and his Egyptian wife Lorice (1907-1991) departed Alexandria, Egypt on the ship Vulcania May 26, 1946 and arrived in NYC on June 12, 1946 with their sons Joseph age 13 & Michel age 7, and daughters Celeste age 19, Therese age 16, Jean age 11 & Mary age 10, who were all born in Egypt.

Celeste married Harvey Wolfe and died in 2005. Mary J. Toutonghi who lives in Soldotna, AK was born in November 1935. She coincidently has a friend named Madeline Payne from Seattle listed on her facebook page.

[El Gato]

While we don’t know if little Barry, if there was a little Barry, lived at that Seattle address, we do know an Anna Obama did, from the ‘61-62 Polk directory for Seattle.

[El Gato]

Obama’s father (Obama SR) was a Muslim, wife-cheater and abandoned Obama Jr like garbage.

While Senior was no angel, not even a proper Muslim one, it's very likely Barry's Baby Momma left him in Hawaii, and didn't return there until he was safely away at Harvard.

[El Gato]

If Senior is the father and Madylen is the mother, how come Jr looks so much like Stanley Armor?

I think it's more likely that some unknown black woman is the mother and Stanley Armor the father, if Stanley is not the mother. If she is, the father might be Senior, or pretty much any other person of African, or even Australian Aboriginial ancestry.