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Why are so many girls lesbian or bisexual?
Psychology Today ^ | 04/03/10 | Leonard Sax, MD

Posted on 04/12/2010 2:04:43 PM PDT by jerry557

Psychologist John Buss estimates that for most of human history, perhaps 2% of women have been lesbian or bisexual (see note 1, below). Not any more. Recent surveys of teenage girls and young women find that roughly 15% of young females today self-identify as lesbian or bisexual, compared with about 5% of young males who identify as gay or bisexual (see note 2, below).

As a physician and a psychologist, what I found missing in the noise surrounding the Constance McMillen story was any serious discussion of why a growing number of girls self-identify as lesbian or bisexual. Not that there's anything wrong with that, as Seinfeld might say. But why are young women today at least three times more likely than their brothers to identify as bisexual or homosexual? "I kissed a girl and I liked it," Katy Perry told us in her #1 hit single. Megan Fox, Lindsay Lohan, Lady Gaga, Anna Paquin, Angelina Jolie, Drew Barrymore - they all want us to know that they are bisexual. There is no comparable crowd of young male celebrities rushing to assure us that they go both ways. Imagine a young man singing "I kissed a boy and I liked it." Would that song reach #1 on the charts? Why not?

Why is it OK for girls to be bisexual or homosexual, but not boys?

Over the past seven years, I've posed this question to hundreds of teenagers and young adults across the United States. The most common answer I get isn't really an answer. "Girls kiss other girls at parties because guys like it," one teenage girl told me. "It makes the guys hoot and holler, so the girls do it again. They're just doing it for attention. It's not for real."

Female sexuality is different from male sexuality. If a straight boy kissed another boy, perhaps to amuse some girls who might be watching, he would be unlikely to undergo a change in sexual orientation as a result. But, as Professor Roy Baumeister at Florida State University and others have shown, sexual attraction in many women seems to be more malleable (see note 3 below). If a teenage girl kisses another teenage girl, for whatever reason, and she finds that she likes it - then things can happen, and things can change. If a young woman finds her soulmate, and her soulmate happens to be female, then she may begin to experience feelings she's never felt before.

Which brings me to the second point I've encountered in my interviews with young people. Twenty years ago, when I opened my practice in a suburb of Washington DC, it was rare to find 14-year-old boys who were looking at pornography every day. Today it's common, in fact it's becoming the norm. When I meet with a group of 14-year-old boys and I ask them, "how many of you guys subscribe to a porn site?", all hands go up. I don't believe them. But today, no boy wants to admit that he's the weirdo who doesn't look at online porn. Twenty years ago, hardcore pornography was tucked away in adult bookstores. Today any 14-year-old can access such photos online in seconds. Role models for young men, from pop singer John Mayer to the 2009 World Series MVP Hideki Matsui, talk openly about their collections of porn (see note 4, below).

Is there any connection between these two trends - between the rise in the number of young women who self-identify as lesbian or bisexual, and the increasing normalization and acceptance of pornography in the lives of young men? Maybe there is. A young woman told me how her boyfriend several years ago suggested that she shave her pubic hair, so that she might more closely resemble the porn stars who were this young man's most consistent source of sexual arousal. She now identifies herself as bisexual. "It was just such a welcome change, to snuggle under a blanket on the couch with my girlfriend, watch a movie, and talk about God and death and growing old, to be intimate emotionally and spiritually as well as physically. I don't know a guy who could even comprehend the conversations we have."

I wish Constance McMillen and her girlfriend all the best. But I have to wonder: Are there so many girl-girl couples out there because that's truly who they are - or because the guys are such losers?


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To: jerry557
Imagine a young man singing "I kissed a boy and I liked it." Would that song reach #1 on the charts? Why not?

When did the Kinks do "Lola?" "Walk on the Wild Side" did well, as did "Stepping Out" by Joe Jackson. Where has this writer been?

61 posted on 04/12/2010 3:22:18 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: jerry557

I’ve always thought it was because women are more naturally touchy-feeling with each other than men are. The tendency for women is to “nest” and when there are no children or worthwhile men about, they tend to “nest” with each other.

Women hug each other and even cuddle non-sexually far easier than men do. In a half-awake state, it might be difficult to see where the line is drawn between affectionate cuddling and sexual attraction. Furthermore, I don’t think women consider it to be that important.

Furthermore, hardcore lesbianism — the real man hater type — seems less prevalent than the hardcore homosexual male type because it does not appear to be a major focus of the female identity (except in the extreme cases). It’s there for a while, but eventually they grow out of it, find a male partner and start working on the nest.

That is very much unlike gay males for whom it becomes the central focus of their identity. Once drawn into the “gay” community (I still hate the misuse of that word) they find it difficult to leave.)

How it looks to me, anyhow.


62 posted on 04/12/2010 3:30:04 PM PDT by Ronin
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To: Travis McGee

Extra males? All those after the first born son?


63 posted on 04/12/2010 3:31:45 PM PDT by tbw2 (Freeper sci-fi - "Humanity's Edge" - on amazon.com)
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To: jerry557
Why is it OK for girls to be bisexual or homosexual, but not boys?

Because....pee pees are dirty.


64 posted on 04/12/2010 3:36:05 PM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject.)
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To: betty boop

Condolences.

Just had a student do her semester paper on Bi-Sexuality.

Seemed to be the articles she selected were mostly of the ilk of

championing

the group identity

as a support for the individual behaviors . . . and using the group political hoopla and some of the flawed research to ‘help’ parents ‘understand’ her mentality, feelings and behaviors.

The water is a lot muddier in terms of what results in lesbians vs male homosexuals.

Nevertheless, I contend that REACTIVE ATTACHMENT DISORDER—particularly resulting from INADEQUATE FATHERING results in both.

Certainly a smothering, gritchy, and/or cold, distant, harsh mother can also be a huge factor.

However, there’s something about a father’s approval that a mother cannot provide. The self-esteem, self-confidence as who they were born to be—those injections come most powerfully, most impactfully, most memorably from the father in ways that mummy cannot touch.

I’m often struck . . . in terms of bi-sexuals . . . with a kind of . . . tentativeness . . . a tentative intimacy.

What a contradiction in terms! TENTATIVE INTIMACY.

Kind of like INSTANT/DELAYED GRATIFICATION.

Male homosexuals are noted for non-monogomous relationships—probably less than 2% are monogomous.

Lesbians tend to have a much higher percentage of monogomous relationships.

I don’t know what the stats are on bi-sexuals—much lower by definition, I’d guess.

I just think it’s a very tenuous extension of the self. Sort of a . . . mutual convenience itch scratching society of two for however long a temporary agreement or attraction endures, I gather.

Pastor Henry Wright certainly seems to concur, as I understand his assertions: . . . in terms of origin of ALL ADDICTIONS and sexual acting out—that all sexual acting out and addictions are a result of unfilled love buckets early in life—particularly by father figures.

Face it . . . satan has done a number on our culture and increasingly so on our more recent generations.

Failing to do life, relationships and family according to THE MANUAL has deadly consequences to relationships, individuals, culutres and societies.

Alas, even a lot of the Old Testament prophets messed it up royally as parents, too. Sigh.


65 posted on 04/12/2010 3:45:30 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: jerry557

I read an article not long ago that this behavior is being encouraged by counselors and other authority figures when a teen is having ‘identity’ issues. They are pushing them towards homosexuality when they may not be homosexual.


66 posted on 04/12/2010 3:45:54 PM PDT by imskylark
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

67 posted on 04/12/2010 3:47:24 PM PDT by AndrewB (FUBO)
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To: bgill; betty boop

A lot of the lesbians I’ve known are very angry—usually at men.

Some seem angry over abuse.

Some seem angry over love never delivered by Daddy.

And, for some reason, seemingly a high percentage in my observations are not exactly the body build that would be attractive to a male.

I think for both male and female homosexuals . . . there’s an ease—maybe a laziness—maybe a low-self-esteem about not ever getting it quite right enough with the opposite sex—in not having to teach the opposite sex how to scratch just right.


68 posted on 04/12/2010 3:48:57 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Venturer

I think there’s a fair amount of truth to that on both sides.

However, given the dopamine receptors and reinforcements along those lines . . . it’s easy to get trapped long term . . . particularly adding in the demonic element.


69 posted on 04/12/2010 3:51:10 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: jimt

Too true.

The deliberate efforts of the globalists in such matters . . . shredding our culture and families . . . has been very effective via their very controlled media.


70 posted on 04/12/2010 3:52:33 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Bratch

AAAAAACCCKK!

What has been seen can not be unseen!


71 posted on 04/12/2010 3:53:32 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (From this point forward the Democratic Party will be referred to as the Communist Party)
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To: Ronin

Well put.


72 posted on 04/12/2010 3:54:25 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix; Gay State Conservative; Alamo-Girl; metmom; xzins
...all sexual acting out and addictions are a result of unfilled love buckets early in life—particularly by father figures.

These seem very wise words to me, dear brother in Christ, especially given my direct experience. It seems to me the father figure reigns supreme in the sexual/psychological development of the child, whether male or female. Absent fathers tend to spell doom for their offspring. Especially in such a complicated sociocultural milieu as we live in today.

73 posted on 04/12/2010 4:44:08 PM PDT by betty boop (Nil desperandum.)
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To: betty boop

Thanks for your kind words.

Certainly that’s been my experience and my observations.


74 posted on 04/12/2010 4:46:26 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: jerry557

Maybe they’ve finally noticed that guys are basically ugly.


75 posted on 04/12/2010 4:48:37 PM PDT by Sloth (Civil disobedience? I'm afraid only the uncivil kind is going to cut it this time.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

“Society has also made it far more difficult for women to find real men.”

Society has also made it far more difficult for boys to become real men.


76 posted on 04/12/2010 5:08:32 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine .. now it is your turn..)
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Some people need to chill out on this deal. As you may be able to tell from my typing, I am a young male adult; and yes, I do personally appreciate this “abomination of sexuality.”

Why? Because it’s hot. It’s not complex, it’s not a abomination of sexuality, it’s simply the fact that a majority of young guys can agree with this formula:

Hot girl = win. Simple, all can agree. Can we go beyond that?

Hot girl + hot girl = more win. Seems logical to me.

Girls are of course aware of this, now since the hot boys over there in the party appreciate two girls making out, how about she and her hot friend make out? That will 1: make the boys sexually attracted to her, (them,) and 2: get them attention, (rumors will spread that so-and-so made out with her friend at a party, thus increasing social status by being a subject of greater interest.) It’s all simply part of the culture, whether all you bible-toting conservatives can bend your beliefs to accept it or not, thats simply how it works now, so get used to it. (Curse my dad for leaving this web page up, had to post upon reading it.)


77 posted on 04/12/2010 5:54:43 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: DTogo

It’s not a new phenomenon, oh banal little progeny of DTogo.

The breaking down of every social and sexual taboo has been ongoing for over four decades. Once your brain takes over from your hormones, you’ll begin to understand.

Once the “hott” girls are young enough to be your daughter, or actually your daughter, then you’ll really get it. Believe it or not, that day will come. And also, believe it or not, there have been “lesbians until graduation” since I was younger than you, in the early eighties.

They get old, they get bitter, and they’ll always have a massive chip on their shoulder. If you have the misfortune of marrying one, you’ll have a nasty, loveless competitor who will take everything you own, one day soon enough.

Now, run along before you embarass your dad any further.


78 posted on 04/12/2010 6:07:52 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: jerry557

One of the best gifts you can give a child is to let them know that they are being propagandized about sex. Since the 1960s, there have been a large number of adults who for generally nefarious purposes, try to sexualize children at younger and younger ages, and to persuade other adults that this is “normal and natural”, when in fact it is not.

By the time most children are in high school, they believe that most, or even all, of their friends have regular, loving and healthy sexual relations. They are especially vulnerable to these ideas because of their own adolescence, when they are “all hormones and nerve endings”.

The truth is that out of a large high school class, those children who have sex on a regular basis are a small minority, many of whom began having sex when they were molested as young children. A much larger number felt obligated to have sex, because they felt their peer were having sex; and they do not particularly enjoy it, other than as a rite of passage.

In the senior year, with the propaganda, many seniors are overwhelmed by still being virgins. They are confused, resentful, and have strong feelings of inferiority. Boys often have extensive access to pornography, which gives them aberrant attitudes towards girls, especially dehumanization and deep distrust.

Girls find themselves horrified with male aggression, nonsensical expectations about their personal appearance and behavior, and an inability to communicate with boys. They believe they must “display” their bodies to attract attention, but do so from a position of safety, like via cell phone pictures.

Girls in social situations with boys are often caught in the “lesbian sheep paradox.” A sheep indicates it wants to mate by standing still, so that it can be mounted by a ram. This makes it impossible to determine if such a thing as lesbian sheep exist, as both females would just stand there.

By this I mean that, to attract the attention of boys, girls often think they must stand rigidly still, and use telepathy or some other form of subtle communication to exhibit their interest. Boys, for their part, have no clue about this, so approach females almost randomly, based on the most superficial of appearances. Asked about it afterward, girls believe they somehow initiated the introduction.

Yet this does answer the question about why girls associate with lesbianism or bisexuality. In short, it is far less threatening to them, they are much more relaxed with the psychology and behavior of other females, and it gives them a flexible defense against male aggression.

Males, on the other hand, are naturally in intense competition across the spectrum of their activities. They argue whose father is stronger and wealthier, they compete in games, they assert dominance over each other, etc. This is much more extensive than female competition, which develops later and is more subtle at first. Boys do not seek solace with each other.


79 posted on 04/12/2010 6:07:53 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: jerry557

I wonder how many lesbians are trapped in a man’s body?


80 posted on 04/12/2010 6:21:34 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen (Keep your socialized health care off my body !!)
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