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Court told 'citizen' Obama actually may be alien
WND ^ | March 25, 2010 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 03/25/2010 6:53:40 AM PDT by opentalk

Forget the dispute over the "natural born citizen" requirement of the U.S. Constitution for presidents, Barack Obama may not even be a "citizen," according to a new filing in a long-running legal challenge to his eligibility to occupy the Oval Office.

"Under the British Nationality Act of 1948 his father was a British subject/citizen and not a United States citizen and Obama himself was a British subject/citizen at the time Obama was born," says a new filing in the 3rd Circuit Court of Appeals in the case Kerchner v. Obama.

"We further contend that Obama has failed to even conclusively prove that he is at least a 'citizen of the United States' under the Fourteenth Amendment as he claims by conclusively proving that he was born in Hawaii."

The submission comes from attorney Mario Apuzzo, who is handling the case. His brief argues against the earlier document from Obama's attorneys demanding that the case be dismissed.

WND reported earlier when the lawyer argued that the most common reason judges have used to dismiss cases against Obama – a lack of "standing" – is just wrong.

Obama's arguments in this case, in fact, rely almost exclusively on that issue to suggest the case by Apuzzo should be dismissed.

"How can you deny he's affecting me?" Apuzzo said recently during an interview with WND. "He wants to have terror trials in New York. He published the CIA interrogation techniques. On and on. He goes around bowing and doing all these different things. His statements we're not a Christian nation; we're one of the largest Muslim nations. It's all there."

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government
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1 posted on 03/25/2010 6:53:40 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk
"At no time in these proceedings or in any other of the many cases that have been filed against him throughout the country has Obama produced a 1961 contemporaneous birth certificate from the state of Hawaii showing that he was born there … We must conclude for purposes of defendants' motion that since Obama is not a 14th Amendment 'Citizen of the United States' let alone an Article II 'natural born citizen,' he is not eligible to be president and commander in chief.
2 posted on 03/25/2010 6:59:26 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: opentalk

Take control back in Nov and impeach his sorry socialist ass!


3 posted on 03/25/2010 7:03:52 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: opentalk
Folks! The quotation was "The law is a ass." Maybe it should be revised to read "The law can make a ass out of you."

Lawyers dream up The Law, lawyers write The Law so that it can mean anything they want, lawyers interpret The Law, lawyers administer The Law.

All you have to do is to obey The Law - and Good Luck with that!

4 posted on 03/25/2010 7:04:54 AM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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To: opentalk

About time someone grabbed onto the 1948 Act that I posted 14 or 15 months ago!


5 posted on 03/25/2010 7:07:12 AM PDT by WellyP
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To: opentalk

So just for grins, let’s suppose someone “proves” that Obama was not born in the US. What’s next?

Have him perp-walked out of the Oval? Jailed? Deported? Joe Biden sworn in as President? (that would be a Big #$%@ing Deal!)...or what?

And this would help, how exactly? Dems would somehow stop pushing for the same agenda?


6 posted on 03/25/2010 7:08:35 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: bigbob

Our first responsibility is to stand up for the Constitution. We deal with the consequences afterward, but keep in mind if the Democrats knowingly supported a fraud, they will lose the confidence of the citizens in this country and will be voted out of office very fast.


7 posted on 03/25/2010 7:12:03 AM PDT by edge919
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To: edge919

I don’t mean to diminish our role in supporting the Constitution, but was just thinking in practical terms...turning Obama into a defacto martyr would only cause the Dems to double-down on their destructive policies, IMHO. As long as they maintain control, that is.

That’s why I’d rather see us focus on getting conservatives elected who can actually make changes than on the BC issue, from a pragmatic point of view.


8 posted on 03/25/2010 7:14:58 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: TexasCajun

He should face more than impeachment.

If Obama KNEW that he was not a citizen of the U.S., yet presented himself as such, he is guilty of fraud.

In such a case, he should be made to pay back all the salary and benefits he has accumulated, all bills he has signed should be voided, and he should receive a prison sentence.

Obama impeached and sitting in Fort Leavenworth - it doesn’t get any better than that!!


9 posted on 03/25/2010 7:16:31 AM PDT by ZULU
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To: bigbob

I believe that if Obama is found to be ineligible then his whole team would also be ineligible. They would lose by default, and McCain/Palin would be the winners. If that’s not the case it should be the case.


10 posted on 03/25/2010 7:18:26 AM PDT by derSchurfer (When the Rule of Law is ignored good citizens will take the law into their own hands.)
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To: bigbob

I disagree. They barely got the health care bill passed. The public scrutiny and outrage that would occur after Obama is exposed as a fraud would shut these people down.


11 posted on 03/25/2010 7:18:33 AM PDT by edge919
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To: edge919

I agree, it would shut them down. They would do everything the could to distance themselves from him and his agenda. They would be SHOCKED, SHOCKED I tell you.

At least with the HCR enacted, possibly we will ALL have standing now, as these court cases come up? Just hopin’.


12 posted on 03/25/2010 7:20:52 AM PDT by NEMDF
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To: bigbob

If someone isn’t allowed by the Constitution to be President, then remove him. Whether or not we like him is a moot point. Enforcing the Constitution, is most important.


13 posted on 03/25/2010 7:22:07 AM PDT by castlegreyskull
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To: derSchurfer

We would be stuck with Biden or Pelosi, however, since Pelosi signed off on nomination forms declaring Obama as eligible, she could also go down with the ship. I forget who is next in line. Ultimately, we’d be left with a substitute who would be nothing more than a really lame duck until 2012.


14 posted on 03/25/2010 7:22:08 AM PDT by edge919
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To: bigbob

Okay, just for grins, Impeach Zero the Magnificent, then the foul mouthed Idiot Vice President and every other politician that takes their place until we get one that will actually obey the Constitution.


15 posted on 03/25/2010 7:22:53 AM PDT by seemoAR
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To: bigbob

Oh they would just declare him legal. We make up the rules as we go along, you know.


16 posted on 03/25/2010 7:23:48 AM PDT by MrChips (MrChips)
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Ultimately, it looks to me like Apuzzo’s case will get thrown out for lack of standing. I don’t see him making an effective argument as to why this case has standing. I think there’s a better case for trying to prosecute Obama for criminal fraud, but I don’t think there’s a prosecutor or judge willing to take it on.


17 posted on 03/25/2010 7:27:08 AM PDT by edge919
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To: opentalk

So Nancy slime ball Pelosi signed off on an illegal presidential candidate and Nancy also slammed down the gavel on a bill not passed by protocal and the Republicans aren’t screaming bloody murder? The GOP needs to CHALLENGE, CHALLENGE, CHALENGE and stop being so nice.


18 posted on 03/25/2010 7:27:20 AM PDT by jetson
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To: opentalk
Law suit overview Table of Contents - 12 counts.

complete lawsuit

19 posted on 03/25/2010 7:27:31 AM PDT by opentalk
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To: jetson
So Nancy slime ball Pelosi signed off on an illegal presidential candidate and Nancy also slammed down the gavel on a bill not passed by protocol and the Republicans aren’t screaming bloody murder?

She was also pushing the use of deem and pass, slaughter rule. It highlights her lack of ethics and willingness, to do as she has said "whatever it takes"

20 posted on 03/25/2010 7:31:48 AM PDT by opentalk
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