Posted on 03/08/2010 8:08:30 PM PST by butterdezillion
The "Vexatious Requestor Bill" is moving forward. The Office of Taxation wants to fine people who are labeled "vexatious requestors" and Fukino has said there are 4-6 people who are all set to be labeled this. I am certain I am one of them. Fukino is asking for "facilitated passage" of this bill.
The comment will have the link to the testimony by Fukino and the taxation dept.
It will also have a link to the latest addition to my blog - a post describing how the DOH falsified the e-mail communications record in order to frame me as a "vexatious requestor".
They are out for blood.
Nice point.
Former US Representative Neil Abercrombie “read” from a letter supposedly from Obama saying he was born at Kapiolani Hospital. The Hospital later posted online and in a fundraising newsletter an image of the letter (worded differently than what Abercrombie “read”) on White House stationery with raised seal and Obama’s signature.
What the DOH has accidentally revealed so far makes it almost impossible for Obama to have been born in a hospital in Hawaii. World Net Daily asked a secret service guy if Obama’s signature could be perjury if he wasn’t born at Kapiolani. IIRC the secret service guy said it would be but they can’t do anything until Obama confirms that it’s his signature. Obama won’t do that.
That is a microcosm of this whole story and the whole nation right now. We’re waiting for Obama to tell us whether he’s lying or not. Until he decides he’s good and ready to spill the beans we’re all just hopeless little tools waiting for crumbs from the master’s table.
He’s taken the whole country hostage.
Since you live out of state, then just exactly what can they do to you???
Sorry to bring this up, but I thought it was found that Polarik did not have the credentials or expertise he claimed? Did someone with that expertise check this?
Ya know. Fukino says she receives 50 “EMAIL” requests a month.
She cannot say that they are verbal in person or over the phone to fill in any huge gaping holes in her figures.
Whether they unlawfully deleted them (tampering with evidence now that it’s part of her “testimony”) or not, she needs to prove this statement.
They can nullify my right to appeal the denials I’ve had through the judiciary, if I understand it correctly.
That’s what this is really about. They know the next step in the process, now that we’ve been through the OIP and they won’t uphold the laws, is to see a judge. If I was labeled a “vexatious requestor” I would no longer have standing to appeal to a judge. So all my requests would effectively be finished. I’d be blacklisted for 2 years, which is the amount of time they have to leave a standing UIPA request open for appeal.
They’re circling the wagons to head off any judicial appeals. Not that there’s probably a judge anywhere in Hawaii who hasn’t been bought off already anyway, but it’s just another way to show us peons who’s in charge.
If they did try to fine me, I wouldn’t pay. They can charge me with something and then I can defend myself. Or am I still getting that part wrong, tired old conservative?
The copy posted at the Fight the Smears site (which is still there) doesn't have the certificate number. It may be accurate since it doesn't show the number, unlike the FlockChock.org certificate.
They’re calling 50 requests/month a nuisance. That averages out to barely more than two requests per day. Most people get more SPAM than that.
The Fight the Smears COLB still can’t be accurate because it’s missing the note of the amendment, which was already completed by June of 2007.
Actually it can be said to be ‘accurate,’ just not complete.
I believe she should back up the statement at the very least. They cannot make a law based on someone’s irritated exaggeration.
This law provides oversight BY THE PEOPLE. It’s an open government law for crying out loud.
But you don’t have to waste 15 e-mails back and forth to lie about spam. That’s what’s taking so much of their time. If they just gave the answer like they’re supposed to it wouldn’t be too much bother at all, in most instances. It’s the lying that is taxing them so much.
The requests I made that required actual work for the DOH were the ones that were tangential, to check whether they were lying to me. They were willing to answer those requests more than the ones that could have been quickly answered.
And what I found was that they were indeed lying to me. For instance, in 2 weeks’ time, when Okubo was claiming to be too busy to answer requests, she sent out 7 responses to UIPA requests. Five were standard canned denials. One was a denial to me that took a couple paragraphs. And one was a denial to somebody else asking for the same thing I had asked for - the response a few paragraphs lying about non-certified copies of a birth certificate being confidential (even though the rules specifically authorize their release to anyone).
So in two weeks’ time she sent out 5 canned responses that took 5 seconds to do, and 2 inaccurate denials that took her a max of 5 minutes to do. But she was sending out acknowledgments to people saying she was too busy to answer them, to buy another 2 weeks before she had to answer.
It’s the lying that has caused them so much extra time. If they were credible and simply obeyed the laws these requests would be a small blip on the screen.
The claims on it could be accurate, I suppose. But without the statement of the amendment it is a forgery - which means that if Fukino’s testimony claims it’s authentic she just perjured herself. If testifying falsely before Congress is perjury. I don’t know if it is. Does anybody know about that?
Oh. Who would have guessed?
Unfortunately, in legislative hearings like this, much of this is a matter of going through the motions and putting on a show to get their agenda passed. These legislators are most likely ignorant of the details so they wouldn’t know what questions to ask or recognize if they’re being misled. All along, Fukino has counted on this general ignorance in the two public statements she put out by speaking around the issue in a way that makes it look like she’s being more direct than she really is. I’m not seeing how we can get the truth out there when she’s not willing to speak it and nobody is else is willing to demand it.
I understand. All I’m saying is that claims like this are made to sound dramatic when maybe they really aren’t that dramatic at all. And the most glaring aspect of this issue is that it’s all because of ONE PERSON who refuses to be transparent. His lack of candor and honesty is making these people work harder to cover his ass, and now the legislature of Hawaii is compromising laws that protect first amendment rights because of this one person. It’s very scary that these legislators don’t seem to acknowledge the gravity of coming up with a bill like this.
“I’m not seeing how we can get the truth out there when she’s not willing to speak it and nobody is else is willing to demand it.”
I did though. I sent a records request this morning for the email requests she referred to in her testimony.
According to UIPA, they are, indeed for public consumption for many reasons.
In fact, Butter requested other people’s records request in the past with success. There just weren’t nearly as many as Fukino claims in her testimony.
I agree 100%. I think this is highly irregular and smells to high heaven.
It should be front page news for a month.
Changing open government laws to suit the government, not the people. Indefensible.
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