Hawaii Wants to Fine Me After Framing Me

Butterdezillion | March 8, 2010 | Butterdezillion

[butterdezillion]

The "Vexatious Requestor Bill" is moving forward. The Office of Taxation wants to fine people who are labeled "vexatious requestors" and Fukino has said there are 4-6 people who are all set to be labeled this. I am certain I am one of them. Fukino is asking for "facilitated passage" of this bill.

The comment will have the link to the testimony by Fukino and the taxation dept.

It will also have a link to the latest addition to my blog - a post describing how the DOH falsified the e-mail communications record in order to frame me as a "vexatious requestor".

They are out for blood.

[edge919]

I appreciate you’re trying to discover the truth, but that doesn’t really address how we get the truth out to the people who need to hear, such as Hawaiians and journalists who probably don’t realize they’re first amendment rights are being compromised.

[butterdezillion]

That’s true.

I can’t help but ask what he’s got over their heads, to get them to put their careers and freedom in jeopardy for him. What they’ve done for him could land them in jail. What kind of threats are necessary to get somebody to do that? I doubt whether “carrots” dangled in front of them would do it. Then again, maybe it’s just their nature to do these crimes.

The public deserves some answers though.

[butterdezillion]

Do be prepared for a big bill for the search. That’s how she’ll get you.

[edge919]

If you get a bill, send her a jpg of a check. Tell her it’s real or accurate.

[MissTickly]

Since you don’t have to live in Hawaii to file a UIPA request, all of us are victims to this discriminating legislation.

I guess I am not so concerned with getting word out to a bunch of obots and obama-loving media as I am concerned about putting it ‘on the public record’ in the blogosphere.

I gave up on ‘journalists’ a long time ago.

[MissTickly]

“If you get a bill, send her a jpg of a check. Tell her it’s real or accurate.”

Fantastic. Fan-effing-tastic idea.

[MissTickly]

how big?

[butterdezillion]

lol! I love it!

Regarding how to get this information out to the public, I don’t know. Jeff Kuhner sounded like he wanted to pursue it but has he said anything more about it?

I don’t listen to Glenn Beck any more. Is he still playing into Obama’s hand on this issue?

Rush?

[butterdezillion]

Another large request - one that Okubo mentioned in an Advertiser interview - resulted in a bill over $400, if I remember correctly.

That’s why they’re so up in arms about us costing the taxpayers so much money... they’re doing all this work for us all for free... (cough)

[MissTickly]

have they billed you for any requests?

[Eye of Unk]

Take her to court then, they have to show evidence at some stage I would think, get a BIGGER BILL, start a fund drive so it can be paid off, and take them to court, make them go public in a courtroom.

[Eye of Unk]

Hey but honestly I stay as far from courthouses as I can so don’t take me seriously. Another educated FReeper will tell you a better way to handle this I hope.

[butterdezillion]

Mine were all small enough that they wouldn’t cost beyond the $30 in search fees that they usually waive.

But they changed to a $7.50 for each unique index record after I had asked for all the index data for last names of Dunham, Obama, Sutoro, and Soetoro. This stuff is computerized. Surely they could do a field search and come up with a table of results, couldn’t they? Why is it such a big deal? I asked Okubo if they can do string searches and she wouldn’t answer.

The part in the “vexatious requestor bill” about a person abandoning a request after they find out how much it will cost..... that had my name all over it. No way am I going to pay $7.50 each to see if Obama has records under every potential combination of first, last, and middle initial (plus nicknames) he could have snuck information under. And nobody at the DOH or OIP would tell me what name search they used when they refer to “President Obama”. I did ask them if their new (illegal) rule change to charge fees applied to requests that had already been made. They wouldn’t answer me.

Law enforcement could see these records for free. The ombudsman has authority to go in at night and look at anything she wants to. But not only do we pay government officials to not do their job, we also have to pay to have the chance to do the job they refuse to do. Sigh.

I believe they have to give you an estimate of the cost before going ahead with any of the work, but you might want to make sure they know not to go ahead without your approval. Knowing them, they’d spring a $400 bill on you without any notice.

[BP2]

> Here are the four versions of the COLB from Polarik’s
> final report...

>> Sorry to bring this up, but I thought it was found that
>> Polarik did not have the credentials or expertise he
>> claimed? Did someone with that expertise check this?

The point was not regarding the credentials of Ron Polarik, rather it was meant to provide folks here with links and locations of the different versions of Obama’s Certifications of Live Birth and how to find them.

However, Polarik’s credentials are, at minimum, on par with that of the hand-picked partisan hacks chosen to “inspect” the famed COLB — before they were required to give it back to Obama’s Chicago Campaign staff in early-August 2008.

Since no Judge has seen an actual copy of Obama's "birth certificate", these hand-picked "reporters" seem to be the ONLY people outside of the most-loyal & most-partisan of Obama's staff to have actually seen the document:

The truth about Obama's birth certificate (FactCheck.org)
–by Jess Henig, with Joe Miller

Jess Henig has an M.A. in English Literature.
Joe Miller has a Ph. D. in Political Philosophy.

Unless Tweedle-dumb and Tweedle-dumber here have part-time jobs at the Chicago CSI, Polarik's investigation is certainly more thorough and exhaustive than the FactCheck "reporters" efforts in vetting Obama's COLB.

[edge919]

Since you don’t have to live in Hawaii to file a UIPA request, all of us are victims to this discriminating legislation.

True, but we have much less power or potential to change the law since we aren't Hawaiian. The only way to effect change is to to try to get the word out to those who are most directly impacted by the law. Whether you gave up on journalists or not, they still provide one of the more effective ways to reach the public at large. A letter to the editor might be good. Write some of the reporters at the Honolulu newspapers or TV stations. Maybe someone will actually listen.

[MissTickly]

I’ve done that. I have written to easily 30 different news organizations: only one response which was a ‘pass.’ The reset didn’t even acknowledge my communication.

I’ve wasted too much of my life on ‘journalists’ already.=) When I say I gave up, it’s because I exhausted my efforts and gave up with good reason.

[edge919]

You wrote them about this new law or something else?? Who did you write??

[MissTickly]

No, not about this new law. I wrote them about my getting the July 27 press release in reply to my question about an amended birth certificate on the evening of July 27 hours before any press actually had it.

I wrote people in the MSM, my local news, investigative journalists, bloggers, whistleblower agencies, too many to want to even bother listing.

One investigative journalist wrote me back and said, “pass.”

I didn’t even get an acknowledgment from anyone else.

Of course, eventually Leo Donofrio responded in the blogosphere, but that’s pretty much it.

[butterdezillion]

I’ve had similar responses. The problem is that there’s so much content and the people have been so poisoned against having an open mind about it.

I asked my sister and a couple of friends to critique my blog and they said it’s too complicated. They don’t follow this stuff and there are too many names and laws, etc needed to document the claims for most people to follow it. I have to include the documentation because nobody knows me from Adam. A seasoned, trusted journalist would have more license because the trust had already been established. Unfortunately, the “respected” people aren’t willing to go out on a limb on this.

I couldn’t even get the attention of anybody at World Net Daily. I just don’t understand it.

If anybody has constructive criticism or counsel, I certainly welcome it. There is absolutely no room for ego to get in the way of whatever can help this country survive this mess we’re in. I just want my country back.

[edge919]

I read your posts at Leo’s blog. To be honest, it took me a while to understand how you were connecting dots at the time. Journalists, in general, aren’t always too bright, so I can see why they wouldn’t pick up that particular story idea. This new law, however, is much different IMO. Journalists understand ‘freedom of the press’ and could be made to see how this new law would curb that freedom. It gives Hawaii more power to deny information that is supposed to be made available to the public. By having a direct and tangible (pun intended) law to talk about, then it should be an easier sell. Even Dan Nakaso at the Honolulu Advertiser seems to be acknowledging that the new laws are not a good thing when he wrote about them here:

http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/20100219/NEWS01/2190362/Hawaii-gets-persistent-requests-for-Obama-birth-certificate