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The Scheme That Democrats Are Using Against Sen. Bunning (R)
3/2/2010 | Laissez-Faire Capitalist

Posted on 03/02/2010 9:06:02 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist

Quite an ingenious and hypocritical scheme that Democrats are using against Sen. Bunning.

A.) First the Democrat-controlled Congress urges that we must have Paygo. Obama even chimes in that Paygo is necessary because Congress and the federal government must live by the same rules that Americans have to live by: pay-as-you-go.

B.) Pass Paygo and then sign it into law.

C.) Then the Democrats can urge that a bill (like in this case) must be passed and say that it is absolutely necessary to pass this bill - while they don't placing any funding within the bill to actually fund the bill.

C.) When someone - like Sen. Bunning - objects that there isn't any funding for this bill and that the Paygo rules that must be adhered to, attack said opponent for stalling passage of the bill through various emotional appeals (children will starve, people will end up living in card-board boxes and so on).

D.) Use the tactic found in C.) whenever necessary for political advantage against Republicans.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: bunning; congress; corruption; democrats; elections; kentucky; ky; obama; paygo
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1 posted on 03/02/2010 9:06:02 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
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What say you?


2 posted on 03/02/2010 9:06:38 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
I say we need to get behind the senator and do what we can to spread the word that he's correct in his stand. They made a big deal of PayGo and I think if the public understands that Bunning is simply insisting they adhere the law THEY passed they will find a way to fund it.

Seems to me the rules of the Senate, and to a lesser extent the House, have become way too complicated. That's what happens when you pile rule upon rule for a hundred years.

3 posted on 03/02/2010 9:10:29 AM PST by jwparkerjr
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I say good for Republicans. Drag feet, stall, delay, and do anything possible to hold up Congress until the next round of elections.


4 posted on 03/02/2010 9:12:11 AM PST by TigerBait
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To: TigerBait

Works for me!


5 posted on 03/02/2010 9:15:49 AM PST by snuffy smiff (imagine if the GOP grew a brain-and threw all RINOs OUT! But that would also require a spine *sigh*)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I say you’ve pretty much nailed it.


6 posted on 03/02/2010 9:15:53 AM PST by truthkeeper ("Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill?")
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Bunning is taking a principled stand, following the law, and behaving in a fiscally responsible manner.

All Republicans should do so, and be proud of it, and shout it from the rooftops.

The Left is counting on Republicans to duck their head and say, "I feel bad about what I did, I know some unemployed people really suffered because of it, and I just feel awful."

7 posted on 03/02/2010 9:16:47 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (We're all heading toward red revolution - we just disagree on which type of Red we want.)
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To: jwparkerjr; TigerBait

All the while, Democrats can make it appear as if they are being fiscally conservative while they really aren’t.

Paygo was passed to give the appearance that Democrats were turning towards fiscal responsibility and fiscal restraint when they really weren’t.


8 posted on 03/02/2010 9:16:53 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: truthkeeper

Go, Senator Bunning. Didn’t the LIBs vo9te for just what you are upholding? What a bunch of duplicitous morons they are.


9 posted on 03/02/2010 9:17:04 AM PST by hal ogen
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Sounds like standard operating procedure.


10 posted on 03/02/2010 9:18:19 AM PST by GSWarrior (Where did all these conspiracy nuts come from?)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I say you are correct.

A trap was set to make some republican look bad.

The democrats sought a unanimous consent vote, not a straight vote. If it weren’t a unanimous consent vote, Bunning wouldn’t be able to block this.

So why isn’t anyone asking why the democrats don’t put this up to a straight vote? Because if it passes, it would violate Paygo, as you mentioned.


11 posted on 03/02/2010 9:20:02 AM PST by kidd (Obama: The triumph of hope over evidence)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Just now figuring this out?

It’s been SOP for sixty+ years.


12 posted on 03/02/2010 9:20:20 AM PST by shibumi ("..... then we will fight in the shade.")
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Hammer meet nail....

I don’t think most people know that his stand is based on Pay-Go. In fact, I don’t even remember hearing about the legislation being passed and I’m pretty tuned in.

This needs to be publicized to demonstrate what hypocrites Dems are! Where is the GOP?


13 posted on 03/02/2010 9:21:04 AM PST by GatorGirl (Eschew Socialism!)
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If we don't find a way to educate the public about how the Democrats do this all the time we're doomed to overwhelmed by a financial tsunami. They've been doing this for years and years and with no dependable, objective press to report on the outrage they are free to spin their tales of fantasy and fiction unfettered.

It really got its start after the mid-90’s Republican revolution when the Dems started lying without discretion and the lies were repeated by the MSM.

You need look no further than the headline on the article. It's spin, pure and simple. It could just have easily read “Senator Fights Lonely Battle to Support Pay-Go.”

14 posted on 03/02/2010 9:21:39 AM PST by jwparkerjr
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To: shibumi

The present Paygo has been around for 60 years?

Actually, this particular scheme has been tweaked somewhat from previous schemes to make it appear as if the Democrats were going to learn to be fiscally responsible. I won’t bore people with the past details, though.

So, you are seeing something that you didn’t see before.

Live and learn.


15 posted on 03/02/2010 9:24:02 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Buy more ammo.


16 posted on 03/02/2010 9:24:29 AM PST by Sir Gawain
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To: GatorGirl

Some in the GOP still think that the Ford-Dole-McCain Dem Lite approach is the way to go, and so they go along with more and more and more spending - just not quite as much.

Others are afraid to turn the ship around, cut spending and start actally reducing the federal debt instead of letting it grow from year to year as a small percentage of annual GDP.


17 posted on 03/02/2010 9:27:50 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
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I hope that this helps in any way possible.

Adios for today.


18 posted on 03/02/2010 9:29:27 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Bunning was defending his stand on the Sennate floor this morning and he yeilded to Dingy Harry - Nasty Harry basically said - Sen. Bunning you did not vote for the PayGo bill why are you concerned about it now? What an A$$ Harry is!

Ahhh Harry? Is not PayGo the law?


19 posted on 03/02/2010 9:31:07 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

What bothers me the most about these continual extensions of unemployment bennies is that they act like a pacifier allowing Obozo and the dems to continue the destruction of private sector jobs by placating the masses with a check for doing nothing.

As bad as unemployment is, I fail to see angry unemployed taking to the streets and demanding this administration actually DO something about jobs.

The longer people get their check for staying home, the more dependent and comfortable they become with a government payoff for sitting on their butts.

Mind you, the people would rather have work and the ability to make their own way.

That is not happening by design and will continue until the Chinese and the printing presses are no longer possible...or until Obozo leaves out the back door, past the trash bags of the WH.


20 posted on 03/02/2010 9:40:30 AM PST by dforest
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