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Before commenting, it would help to read the whole article. Bill Benett makes some very persuasive points.
1 posted on 02/22/2010 2:09:25 PM PST by Steelfish
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To: Steelfish

Who cares about what is in the article? Bill Bennett has no credibility. He is a socialist.


2 posted on 02/22/2010 2:11:45 PM PST by Gipper08 (a real conservative for Congress... travishankins.com)
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When the GOP held all 3 branches of government...

did the budget shrink?

did entitlements grow?

did the budget balance?

did NPR and Planned Parenthood and ACORN get defunded?

I think Glenn Beck made some great points.


4 posted on 02/22/2010 2:15:55 PM PST by GeronL (Political Philosophy: I Own Me (yep, boiled down to 6 letters))
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He makes some excellent points. Beck has become a big disappointment. He can cry all he wants but I’m not buying what he’s selling. He’s a libertarian wolf in sheep’s clothing stalking the GOP.


5 posted on 02/22/2010 2:17:01 PM PST by pgkdan (I miss Ronald Reagan!)
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To: Steelfish
Bill's points are really not all that valid.

Consider, after going off and spending money like a drunken sailor, the RINOS have decided they were in error. Huh? Now they are sorry and are 'working' to fix the problem they created. What? This is like getting a lecture on marriage fidelity from Tiger Woods.

The spineless RINOs are complicit in this mess. They had no problem abandoning their greatest hero (Ronald Reagan) when it seemed to benefit them. Here' s hint, Conservatives have principles, and the RNC has none .... NONE. There is nothing the RNC will not cede; be it healthcare (they have their 'own' plan; something that NO ONE wants - yet these retards are writing their own plan!?!?). Border to be closed? Yup, trust them ... they mean it THIS time, it's not like when they said they would close the border over 20 years ago.

If you don't like the message, fix the problem. Billy just wants to shoot the messenger. This is like blaming the mailman for the overdraft notices that find their way into your mailbox.

16 posted on 02/22/2010 2:24:52 PM PST by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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To: Steelfish
Bill Bennett?

Beck could not possibly be as wrong as Bill Bennett.

19 posted on 02/22/2010 2:29:43 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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To: Steelfish
It is wrong and he is wrong.

Sounds like Bill Bennett is in severe denial. How sad for him.

Second, for him to continue to say that he does not hear the Republican party admit its failings or problems is to ignore some of the loudest and brightest lights in the party.

No. He is not ignoring those lights...he is pointing out how they were suppressed.

Uh, precisely how did we get Arlen Specter the Defector over Pat Toomey? What he is onto is the total LACK OF REPENTENCE from the worst offenders who either need the "come to Jesus" moment...or they need to be permanently branded, tarred and feathered, and yes, OUSTED from the tent:

George W Bush. His father. His brother Jeb Bush. Karl Rove. Colin Powell. Peggy Noonan. And yes, the rabble of RINOs in their camps, such as Michael Medved.
We will never hear W apologize for his wrongheaded liberalism and massive overspending. And his liberalism didn't stop at spending and the hidden agenda of the North American Union. His Defense policies were lame, i.e., obstructionism to our having a GLOBAL missle defense. Of having a true counterforce deterrence with the MX...which he dismantled UNILATERALLY. Because of his trade weakness, our trade deficit and hence our national debt (yes, they are linked) exploded. And he always rationalized and outright lied about these kinds of things under their progressive watch. Because, as Beck correctly identifies...the man is a progressive...and W mistakenly thought that this was cool.
21 posted on 02/22/2010 2:32:30 PM PST by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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Beck is dead on, on the Republican Party. When the Republicans have had power, in recent times, they have added huge spending programs. Here is one example, only.

W Bush pushed the Prescription Drug Program, and he teamed up with the GOP and Democrats, so that Grandma wouldn’t have to choose between Dog Food or Prescription Drugs.

That huge additional cost to our country, put in by the GOP, will never go away. Where were the Republicans in opposing W Bush on this Progressive Spending Program.

I don’t remember too many. And surely not Bennett. The GOP, thought that by courting the Seniors, they would gain favor in the elections.

They lost their principles and their way, and that is just recently. The GOP has been slowly adding costs to the budget for years, when they get in power. Not as bad or as fast as the Democrats, but, still adding programs. Once the Socialist Programs get in, no Republican has the guts and/or leadership to cut those programs. They stay forever. That is the problem with past Republicans. They should not agree to anymore spending programs, not one more, with the Democrats, by reaching across the aisle. That is killing this country.

If the GOP takes over the House and Senate in 2010, how many Republicans will want to cut a deal with Obama, to get something done, and compromise their principles, between 2010 and 2012???

Beck, and other Conservative/Libertarians need to call out the GOP, so that when they finally get their power back, they don’t screw it up again.


22 posted on 02/22/2010 2:37:03 PM PST by Mifflin
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To: Steelfish
Benett is only out for Benett....but then again Beck is perhaps only out for Beck.....they are both entertainers of a sort.

Republicans are lost in the wilderness, with only a handful of exceptions. Prescription drug benefits....massive government expansion.... warrant-less electronic eavesdropping....votes to fund fund extra-constitutional programs. They are all guilty.

Benett thinks he is a republican because he supports ‘lite socialism’. He is part of the problem.

23 posted on 02/22/2010 2:38:47 PM PST by glasseye
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To: Steelfish
The truth sometimes hurts and the GOP would be wise to listen or they will be defeated in 2010 and 2012.

Then again they are part of the problem also.

24 posted on 02/22/2010 2:38:50 PM PST by jedi150
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Firstly, Mr Bennett is making a very basic error. Conservatives and conservatism is on the upswing. Republicans couldn't lead a load of gravel downhill. Second, this was the Conservative Political Action Conference. Republicans should ask politely for admission and sit quietly in the back, taking notes so they can learn how real limited government should work. If Mr. Bennett didn't like the speakers or atmosphere there, I'm quite certain that Atlantic City had more than a few casinos, and other more “specialized” entertainment he would find more amiable, and familiar. For years the republican party has treated Conservatives in exactly the same manner that democrats treat blacks. A useful annoyance. Look at how fast the Republicans are rushing to meet with their good friends and Big Government partners to sell the rest of us down the river with Obama’s “Health care Summit". And, when it's all over with, and we have our new Free Health Care, done up right with republican “input” and (GLORY! GLORY! GLORY!) Bipartisan support, the republicans will just sit back, smile, pat us on our poor little heads, and ask, “Who else you gonna vote for, BOY?” The truly sad part is, they'll be right.
25 posted on 02/22/2010 2:43:29 PM PST by 75thOVI ("The crews of all submarines captured should be treated as pirates and hanged". Sir Arthur Wilson)
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To: Steelfish
Key statement by Mr. Bill:

A year ago, we were told the Republican party and the conservative movement were moribund.

Bill, your problem is you equate the GOP with the conservative movement. It is NOT. Yes, they have a conservative platform, and yes, people like DeMint, Coburn, King, and a HANDFUL of others are conservative.

But Bill, you were fellating Romney, Rudy and McCain during the 08 primaries. While CONSERVATIVES were telling you time and time and time again that nomintating one of these boobs was a sure way to defeat. You ignored WE THE PEOPLE. Beck's success is due in large part because he is a conservative first, not a party hack.

Party hacks like Michael Medved tell us that JD Hayworth is corrupt and McCain is a virtuous conservative. Hacks like Hugh Hewitt spend an entire election season telling us a flip flopper extradinaire is the heir to Reagan.

Sean Hannity was probably as responsible for Arnold defeating a genuine conservative opponent for CA governor as anyone alive. And followed that disaster up by pimping Rudy G for president!

It goes on and on.

I certainly do not agree with Beck on a number of things. But his indictment of the GOP and its enablers like you Mr. Bennett, as being socialist light, is right on the money.

Remember, the Amnesty Plan was a Bush-McCain-Kennedy-Graham connivance. That's 3 GOPers and one marxist. The idea to close Gitmo was most prevalently pushed by Graham and Mccain. The global warming hoax was also perpetrated by myriad RINOs, despite conservatives telling them it was a HOAX. The onerous attack on the first amendment was called McCain-Feingold-Thompson!! Your boys Rudy and Mittwit were pimping right along with Slick Willy for the ban on those scary looking "assualt weapons". And Rudy tried to sue the gun manufacturers out of bizness, yet to you, Mr. Bennett, he was viable GOP presidential material.

And what about the retard Michael Steele, head of the RNC, who just recently complained that the attacks on him from the right were "racist"?

So wake up Mr. Bennett. We are trying to re-start and finish the Reagan revolution, and have been doing so for years without the help of the GOP and their big government enablers like you.

26 posted on 02/22/2010 2:44:48 PM PST by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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Who is Proposing actual cuts in the size of Government? Who are the Republicans Pigging out in federal earmarks??

Will Bill Bennett recomend closing Education Dept!??

We have to Cut the size of Federal Gov’t 50% that is the Figure that Might be sustainable.. we need to reset the Gov’t fiscal responsibility Button. When Gov’t ee’s make 70K a year thats Ridiculous and retire early Thats Over.

Bill Bennett is unfortunately into Mental masturbation... not problem solving!


28 posted on 02/22/2010 2:47:43 PM PST by philly-d-kidder (....Nothing is more powerful than a man who prays...(St. John Chrysostom))
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To say the GOP and the Democrats are no different, to say the GOP needs to hit a recovery-program-type bottom and hang its head in remorse, is to delay our own country’s recovery from the problems the Democratic left is inflicting.

No, Bill your argument makes no sense, since the GOP DESTROYED its credibility. You truly are missing that part. That is why Obama got into office with his huge supermajority of RATs. The GOP had self-destructed ideologically, swallowing the progressive Kool-Aid of "W".

The stakes are too important to go through that kind of exercise, which will ultimately go nowhere anyway — because it’s already happened.

No. It hasn't. Where is Bush asking for foregiveness from the Republican base of Reagan voters who gave him multiple benefits of the doubt...until it just became undeniable he was a Progressive liar...when he was busted over and over again on Amnesty, the National Debt, the Trade Deficit, the Housing Bubble , the NAU, coddling up to the Islamist CAIR jihadists, the Log Cabin "republicans" and on and on. Undermining States police powers from the White House Counsel's office and encouraging the Supreme Court to err in decisions such as the sodomy decision, the affirmative action decision, and on, and on. His damage was incalculable. But the results were plain for all to see. The party was carefully and slowly denuded of every last vestige of Reagan ideology and integrity.

Those are not restored overnight, and not without massive repentence.

After 9-11, Reverend Jerry Falwell pointed out that America should come to Jesus in humility, asking whether God had lifted his hand of protection, asking for foregiveness for its allowing many sins, including what the liberals call "rights". What did W do? He had his minions immediately attack and accuse Falwell of condemning "the innocent victims".

29 posted on 02/22/2010 2:49:00 PM PST by Paul Ross (Ronald Reagan-1987:"We are always willing to be trade partners but never trade patsies.")
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To: Steelfish
>> it would help to read the whole article <<

Oh c'mon, man. Reading something like that is boring. It's much more fun to bash Bennett and undercover RINO agents like Levin.

What's more, now that even Rush has come out of the closet to be revealed as a Beckism denier, it looks like the fun is just beginning!

32 posted on 02/22/2010 2:55:04 PM PST by Hawthorn
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To: Steelfish

"Thank you ever so much, Bill."

33 posted on 02/22/2010 2:56:53 PM PST by paulycy (Demand Constitutionality.)
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51 posted on 02/23/2010 3:19:04 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Happy New Year! Freedom is Priceless.)
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To: Steelfish

Bennet lost me a long time ago. His buddy Noonan did too.


52 posted on 02/23/2010 3:25:47 PM PST by dforest
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