Posted on 02/12/2010 12:35:44 PM PST by syc1959
Being born in the United States does not even make one a 'NATIVE' citizen.
Immigration and Citizenship: Process and Policy fourth edition Under Jus Soli, the following is written "The Supreme Court's first holding on the sublect suggested that the court would give a restrictive reading to the phrase, potentially disqualifing significant number of persons born within the physical boundries of the nation. In Elk v. Wilkins 112 U.S. 94, 5 S.CT. 41, 28 L.ED. 643 (1884), the court ruled that native Indians were not U.S. citizens, even if they later severed their ties with their tribes. The words "subject to the jurisdiction thereof," the court held, mean "not merely subjct in some respect or degree to the jurisdiction of the United States, but completely subject to their political jurisdiction, and owing them direct and immediate allegiange." Most Indians could not meet the test. "Indians born within the territorial limits of the United States, members of, and owing immediate allegiance to, one of the Indian Tribes, (an alien through dependent power,) although in a geographical sense born in the United States, are no more 'born in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof,'*** then the children of subjects of any foreign government born within the domain of that government ***. Id. at 102. It continues that Congress eventually passed legislation with the 'Allotment Act of 1887, that conferred citizenship on many Indians.
The fact remains, the Court held, complete and sole Jurisdiction. As I have held that being born anywhere in the United States, jurisdiction is required, sole and complete, and Barack Hussein Obama was already claimed by British jurisdiction under the British Nationailty Act of 1948, and as such fails the United states Constitutional requirement of a Natural Born Citizen.
“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.
Barack Hussein Obama did not have sole jurisdiction under the United States.
Title 8 and the 14th Amendment clearlt state the following;
All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof
Note: 'subject to the jurisdiction thereof'
mmmmkay..... And you’re spouting that idiocy at me because...?
No, it makes him a citizen. His British father prevents him from being a Natural Born citizen, because you can only ever have one citizenship, that of the USA in order to be so. Obama had two at birth. US, and British. He is a citizen, but not a Natural Born Citizen, there is a difference.
LOL...I know, it's what sad saps do when they've lost an argument.
See ya!
However Obama supporters have one simple problem.
Barack Hussein Obama refues to produce ANY evidence that in fact he was actually born in Hawaii, making even as he claims a “NATIVE’ citizen of the United States.
The Attorney General of the State of Hawaii refuses to verify or confirm, the statement of The Department of Health concerning Barack Hussein Obama.
Therefore, even his supposed ‘Hawaiian’ birth is in fact questionable.
IMO, EnderWiggins is a troll ;-)
Spot on!
LOL, yes, unfortunately.
He has to be a paid obot, gotta be.
Thanks for the links and the additional info, should keep me busy for the rest of the morning, I didn't have anything else to do anyway ;^)
Get lost idiot!
NEW TROLL! You’re already outed.
I am my family’s historian. I have scores of birth certificates from eleven states and four foreign countries.
And that lends what credibility to your false assertion?
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LMAO!!!!
Wait till you read the rest of the thread, it’s a good one.
Keep trying, your boy is a one termer. He skated this time, he will have to pony up before the next election and he knows it. Get lost troll.
Good post and I agree!
Absoeffinglutely, they are running scared now. He’s out of there in 2012, it’s a done deal, you can count on that.
Doesn’t matter.
Obama could not have been a Natural Born Citizen if he was born in the White House. He was born with two citizenships. Can’t have that and be an NBC.
This is why: http://www.kansascity.com/495/story/1736828.html
Check this article out, this is why NBC matters, and why NBC means born with only one citizenship. Meaning born to two parents who are citizens and born on the soil of the Nation, you can’t possibly have more than one citizenship under those circumstances.
http://www.kansascity.com/495/story/1736828.html
The whole birther thing is fueled by racism and disgusts me.
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Are you out of your f’ing mind? Racism? WTF does that have to do with his legitimacy? It’s not like people that believe his has issues with his birth certificate and believe that he is lying and hiding things, are also accusing him of flinging poo on the walls. Get real. You are an ahole of the highest order.
I know you’re paid and I know why you’re here. You’re fishing. I can assure you that you will not get what you are looking for. The good stuff is in the hands of those that should have it. The case is being built and the ones in the know will only bait you on here. It’s under lock and key and will never be discussed anywhere.
Stay tuned for the big expose close to the 2012 elections. He won’t run again, you can count on that.
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