Posted on 02/12/2010 12:35:44 PM PST by syc1959
Being born in the United States does not even make one a 'NATIVE' citizen.
Immigration and Citizenship: Process and Policy fourth edition Under Jus Soli, the following is written "The Supreme Court's first holding on the sublect suggested that the court would give a restrictive reading to the phrase, potentially disqualifing significant number of persons born within the physical boundries of the nation. In Elk v. Wilkins 112 U.S. 94, 5 S.CT. 41, 28 L.ED. 643 (1884), the court ruled that native Indians were not U.S. citizens, even if they later severed their ties with their tribes. The words "subject to the jurisdiction thereof," the court held, mean "not merely subjct in some respect or degree to the jurisdiction of the United States, but completely subject to their political jurisdiction, and owing them direct and immediate allegiange." Most Indians could not meet the test. "Indians born within the territorial limits of the United States, members of, and owing immediate allegiance to, one of the Indian Tribes, (an alien through dependent power,) although in a geographical sense born in the United States, are no more 'born in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof,'*** then the children of subjects of any foreign government born within the domain of that government ***. Id. at 102. It continues that Congress eventually passed legislation with the 'Allotment Act of 1887, that conferred citizenship on many Indians.
The fact remains, the Court held, complete and sole Jurisdiction. As I have held that being born anywhere in the United States, jurisdiction is required, sole and complete, and Barack Hussein Obama was already claimed by British jurisdiction under the British Nationailty Act of 1948, and as such fails the United states Constitutional requirement of a Natural Born Citizen.
“When Barack Obama Jr. was born on Aug. 4,1961, in Honolulu, Kenya was a British colony, still part of the United Kingdom’s dwindling empire. As a Kenyan native, Barack Obama Sr. was a British subject whose citizenship status was governed by The British Nationality Act of 1948. That same act governed the status of Obama Sr.‘s children.
Barack Hussein Obama did not have sole jurisdiction under the United States.
Title 8 and the 14th Amendment clearlt state the following;
All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof
Note: 'subject to the jurisdiction thereof'
Should clarify, that JUST being born in the United States does not make anyone a ‘Native’ citizen automatically.
OMG.... you’ve done it. You’ve proved that Barack Obama is not a Native American!!!!
He damn well better not apply for a Casino License!!!
Does this mean he could never become President?
Nice try but still meaningless
Yeah. Not a chance he’ll become President now.
The constitution DOES NOT SAY:
"Anyone born in the Unites Sates is a citizen"
It says:
"Anyone born in the Unites Sates, AND under the laws and jurisdictions of, is a citizen"
I may not have the exact words- but you can see there is a MAJOR difference between those 2 sentences.
I think that all these illegal aliens with so-called 'anchor babies' (a child born in the US to an ILLEGAL alien) are NOT citizens
It is.
The whole birther thing is fueled by racism and disgusts me.
The President was born in Hawaii. His birth certificate has been seen over and over again. Hawaii is part of the United States. He is a natural born citizen. Get over it.
The courts beg to differ.
lets all put some funds up and get the ball rolling
Did you wake up and have a bowl of stupid for breakfast!!!? I challenge you to show me Barack Hussein Obama's BIRTH CERTIFICATE! YOU LIE. There is a "CertifiCATION of Live Birth" that was released on the internet. THAT IS NOT A BIRTH CERTIFICATE. Get your facts straight.
Not racism.
More like wishful thinking, emotionally driven reasoning, lack of clarity of thought, lack of intellectual honesty and simple refusal to accept reality.
But very little racism.
You're out of your mind, did a DUmmie hack your account?
Ping!
what is being born in Hawaii have to do with BaracK Hussein Obama being a British Subject, under British Law.
It doesn’t matter, as british Law states QUOTE:
British Common Law that included Bl Com [Blackstone Commentaries] dictated that British subject could never forfeit being in the allegiance to the King regardless of place or time.
British Common Law, the British Nationality act of 1948 that covered Barack Obama Sr and that also covered his children, including but not limited to Barack Hussein Obama. Was and still is a British subject, still oweing allegiance to the Crown.
Barack Hussein Obama was and still is under the British Nationality Act of 1948, and as such no matter where he was born, he fails with any percent of foreign whatever fails as a ‘Natural Born Citizen’ as required by the United States Constitution.
Again, back to John Jay...”Permit me to hint, whether it would not be wise & seasonable to provide a a strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the administration of our national Government; and to declare expresly that the Command in chief of the american army shall not be given to, nor devolve on, any but a natural born Citizen.”
So how does any foreign influence, law, citizenship, or allegiance provide that ‘strong check’.
Notice once again, they have a whole group devoted to preverting the United States Constitution, and so far haven’t come up with one valid argument, they can take into court.
Really. Show us his birth certificate troll.
The COLB that has been posted is a forgery.
There is nothing to prove that he was actually born anywhere in the United States, let alone Hawaii.
It is a fabricated document, a digital image. Nothing more.
I have debunked the forgery evry which way you possible, including emails from the State of Hawaii.
http://nobarack08.wordpress.com
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