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What is Behind the Collapse of Civilization?
Sultan Knish ^ | 2/10/2010 | Sultan Knish

Posted on 02/11/2010 8:54:12 AM PST by qam1

What if the sympathy for terrorism and the drive toward socialism, the falling birth rates and cultural bankruptcy in civilized countries, the economic decay and decline of the family all had a common cause? What if that common cause lay behind the multitude of ways that we can see civilization collapsing around us. Following that cause will require a brief journey, not into the realm of geopolitics or global economics, but into the human spirit.

They say that the child is father to the man. But what becomes of the man when the child never grows up? That is the unfortunate question that civilization as we know it, is confronted by. That is the question it will have to answer if it wants to survive.

The journey from child to man occurs in three stages. ADULATION. REBELLION. INTEGRATION. The child adulates the parent. Then as the adolescent is forced to begin transitioning into the adult role, he responds with rebellion. When he takes on into his adult role, integration occurs.

Generally speaking, this cycle occurs individually within families, but it also occurs on a generational level, as a generational rebellion gives way to its integration into the larger cycle of a nation, a group and their history. And just as the rebellion of the adolescent helps him discover his talents and leads to his integration, a generational rebellion helps define a generation's ability to join with and contribute to their country.

What happens however when this cycle is aborted at the Rebellion stage, is a perpetual adolescence or a case of arrested development, in which there is a constant rebellion driven by a compulsion to see the world in childish ways in order to maintain the constants of childhood......

(Excerpt) Read more at sultanknish.blogspot.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; Politics
KEYWORDS: deathofthewest; genx; islam; liberalprogressivism
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A long but interesting read
1 posted on 02/11/2010 8:54:12 AM PST by qam1
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2 posted on 02/11/2010 8:56:17 AM PST by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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“What is Behind the Collapse of Civilization?”

Rap. Of course that could just be a symptom.


3 posted on 02/11/2010 8:58:19 AM PST by Grunthor (McCain; for when you really need to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory!)
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4 posted on 02/11/2010 8:59:39 AM PST by stormer
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Sheeple!


5 posted on 02/11/2010 9:03:09 AM PST by sodpoodle (Despair - Man's surrender. Laughter - God's redemption.)
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To: stormer

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6 posted on 02/11/2010 9:04:22 AM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: qam1

The average age of the world’s greatest civilizations from the beginning of history has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations always progressed through the following sequence:

From bondage to spiritual faith;
From spiritual faith to great courage;
From courage to liberty;
From liberty to abundance;
From abundance to complacency;
From complacency to apathy;
From apathy to dependence;
From dependence back into bondage.

- 1943 speech “Industrial Management in a Republic” by H. W. Prentis, president of the Armstrong Cork Company and former president of the National Association of Manufacturers.


7 posted on 02/11/2010 9:07:19 AM PST by flowerplough ( Pennsylvania today - New New Jersey meets North West Virginia.)
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8 posted on 02/11/2010 9:25:44 AM PST by InterceptPoint
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Rebellion is itself an artificial phenomenom that is symptomatic of a decaying culture; in many cultures and among western subcultures such as Christian homeschoolers (in general), the youth do not go through this phase. I don’t believe they did so in earlier eras of our country either, as a widespread, general pattern. The youth in a healthy culture move from the adulation/trust of young childhood into integration without substantial rebellion.


9 posted on 02/11/2010 9:28:31 AM PST by Liberty1970 (http://www.caringbridge.org/visit/lydiablievernicht)
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To: flowerplough
That is a very informative list or steps. I would say that from my experience and reading that does seem to be the pattern of an empire's life span. Perhaps because I am religious person, I see many of these steps in terms of a spiritual problem. You do have “spiritual faith.” When there is abundance and security, a nation turns away from the faith that inspired them to worship the god of materialism and egoism. Brit is a living example of what happens in a society that rejects spiritual faith and lives only for bread.
10 posted on 02/11/2010 9:56:02 AM PST by Nosterrex
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To: qam1
Instead it makes the self, the focus of everything. Politics, art, culture, institutions and the whole world become nothing more than projections of the self. - Sultan Knish

The self you have betrayed is your mind; self-esteem is reliance on one's power to think. The ego you seek, that essential "you" which you cannot express or define, is not your emotions or inarticulate dreams, but your intellect, that judge of your supreme tribunal whom you've impeached in order to drift at the mercy of any stray shyster you describe as your "feeling". - Ayn Rand

They, they, they, they, etc. - Sultan Knish

Name, names

Good read. Thanks for posting.

11 posted on 02/11/2010 9:57:38 AM PST by PGalt
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Marx looks eerilly black in that picture lol


12 posted on 02/11/2010 10:09:52 AM PST by The Right Way 1776
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“The challenge of modernity is to live without illusions and without becoming disillusioned.”

Antonio Gramsci


13 posted on 02/11/2010 10:10:27 AM PST by stormer
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To: qam1
Good points in the article.

Business, politics, government, academia, the markets, etc., are dominated at the highest levels by people with arrested development.

The Democrats are stuck in the infantile stages, crying for someone else to change their diaper, fetch them milk, and obsessing over body parts and functions, totally incapable of grasping or communicating anything beyond the toddler level of existence.

The RINOs are stuck in pre-adolescence, obsessing on winning short-term regardless of the long-term consequences to themselves, others or the nation.

The phrase "Ivy League retards" is most appropriate to describe these people whose academic credentials indicate that they should know better, but don't. They are functioning at various levels of childhood.

14 posted on 02/11/2010 10:12:09 AM PST by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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Lack of suffering. The value of civility is forgotten without knowledge of a world without it.


15 posted on 02/11/2010 10:15:35 AM PST by The Toll
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"The phrase "Ivy League retards" is most appropriate to describe these people whose academic credentials indicate that they should know better, but don't. They are functioning at various levels of childhood". ,,,,

Can this go NATIONWIDE???

16 posted on 02/11/2010 10:16:11 AM PST by litehaus (A memory tooooo longt A)
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To: Lurker
I prefer not to think of him as an idealized youth, but rather as a bitter old man, or better yet, dead....


17 posted on 02/11/2010 10:17:58 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Dead he is, and that’s a good thing. However he did uncalculable damage to society...


18 posted on 02/11/2010 10:19:11 AM PST by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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"However he did uncalculable damage..."

You're right. I like to think of him as dead, but you probably ought not restrict yourself to use of the past tense.

19 posted on 02/11/2010 10:20:46 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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ßookmark
20 posted on 02/11/2010 10:44:50 AM PST by ßuddaßudd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona.....)
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