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Yes, Sarah Palin is a RINO.
The Reality Check ^ | 2010-01-23 | Zbigniew Mazurak

Posted on 01/23/2010 10:19:54 AM PST by rabscuttle385

Paul Streitz has decided to call Sarah Palin by her real name, because she endorsed John McCain (who is trying to win a fifth term as Senator) and said she will campaign for him. Fanatic Palinites, such as the editors of the misnamed „conservatives4palin.com” website (they should rename it „liberals4palin.com”), lambasted him and called him a “backstabber”.

“If Paul Streitz’s support of Governor Palin is contingent upon his agreeing with every decision she makes or her selling out her deeply-held values, that’s unfortunate. While all support is appreciated, the governor has never been for sale. Ask the Alaska establishment, who learned that early in her political career.”

Palin has proven that she IS for sale – if one picks her for veep. She’s endorsed a despicable traitor because he chose her as his veep.

Palin is so dishonest (or so ignorant) that she didn’t even tell the truth about why she endorsed John McLame. She claimed that:

“John McCain is on fire to kill Obama’s government takeover of healthcare and that’s what I want to see.”

Which might be incorrect, because McCain favors the SAME policy on socialized medicine as Obama – he just might vote against this particular Act. McCain favors socialized medicine, as proven by Steven Warshawsky:

“McCain’s campaign website [of 2008 – ZM] demonstrates that his thinking on this issue is much closer to Hillary Clinton than Adam Smith. For example, McCain states that “controlling costs” is his top priority, and that “nothing short of a complete reform of the culture of our health system and the way we pay for it will suffice.” This is a recipe for massive government interference in the health care industry. McCain also supports universal coverage, claiming that “we can and must provide access to health care for all our citizens.” Completing the liberal trifecta, at the January 5 ABC NEWS debate, when Romney criticized McCain for “turn[ing] the pharmaceutical companies into the big bad guys,” McCain replied, “Well, they are.” Plainly, if he were president, McCain would serve as the Democrats’ “useful idiot” for their plan to impose socialized medicine on the nation.”

Also, I’ve heard from a friend that McCain will likely now try to save the socialized medicine bill. So on socialized medicine, McCain and Obama differ only about particular bills, NOT about the merits of socialized medicine itself.

What about the task of protecting the American people? No duty is more important than that one. But on that issue, McCain is also liberal and unreliable. Palin falsely claimed that:

“And his commitment and his leadership on national security to win the war on terror, that’s what we need. (…) national security, he gets it. He understands how to win.”

Palin is flat wrong. McCain is NOT committed to the task of defending the American people, and he’s not a leader on anything except liberal policies. He „doesn’t get it”. He doesn’t understand how to win the Global War on Terrorists, nor does he understand any defense issue or foreign policy issue confronting America now. I’ve written several articles pertaining to this guy, demonstrating what McCain’s specific policies are, and why they are wrong. So I’m not going to repeat those entire articles. Let me comment again on McCain’s policy on the GWOT, though, because that’s one specific issue that Palin mentioned.

John McCain does NOT say that America should attack its enemies before they attack America. He also endorsed Obama’s decision to close Guantanamo, and he opposes “enhanced interrogation techniques”, which are absolutely necessary to gain intel information and protect America.

McCain also buys the PC propaganda about the root causes of the Islamic threat. He believes that these root causes are “poverty, tyranny and despair”, and ignores what terrorists themselves say motivates them: the Quran, which contains several explicit commandments to kill nonbelievers.

In short, McCain doesn’t recognize the real nature of the Islamic threat, and he’s not prepared to combat it effectively. Anyone who isn’t prepared to combat it effectively is a person who doesn’t belong in the Senate. If the GWOT is the most important issue for you, McCain is undisputably the worst possible Senatorial candidate from Arizona.

I did not include McCain’s cretinous, liberal, anti-American policies on foreign policy issues other than the GWOT, even though I could (foreign policy is not limited to the GWOT, although Sarah Palin, as an ignorant person, doesn’t understand that). My articles about McCain refute his idiotic policies, so I just wrote a reply to what Palin explicitly said. She did not comment on McCain’s treasonous policies like nuclear disarmament and the progressive abolition of conventional weapon programs (which are necessary to protect America against China).

The failed 2008 VP candidate also said this about McCain:

“And he is a statesman, and I don’t hesitate at all to say, no.”

Which is not true. McCain is not a statesman; anyone who calls him a statesman insults real statesmen. A genuine statesman fights for the right policies, regardless of ideology; works for his country 24/7; and retires when he should.

McCain has spent the last 9 years promoting destructive liberal policies to punish the GOP for its decision to give Bush the 2000 Republican nomination; he’s been working against the US and for his liberal ideology (together with fellow liberals like Kennedy, Obama, Russ Feingold, and Hillary Clinton); and he has refused to retire – he’s vying for his fifth term as Senator. By comparison, George Washington refused to serve as President for a 3rd term, even though as of 1797, there were no presidential term limits. McCain is running to keep his salary, not to serve the American people, whose opinions are irrelevant for him.

Palin ended her statement thus:

“we do need his leadership, especially on those two fronts: Government takeover of healthcare, he wants to kill it; national security, he gets it. He understands how to win.”

See above. Her claims are false.

Whether she uttered those claims because she’s ignorant or because she knows they’re false and decided to lie for McCain, only Palin knows. Regardless of the answer to that question, she’s not qualified for the Presidency, as she has proven with these statements and other utterances. She embarrasses herself everytime she speaks. Conservatives4palin.com editors claim that she is simply behaving like a loyal person. But one’s own country is supreme to any person and any requirement for loyal individuals. When the choice is “Either the country or the person you should loyally endorse”, a real hero, a real patriot, a real statesman/stateswoman chooses the country, not the person. Palin has endorsed a strident liberal who’s trying to enrich himself with taxpayers’ money.

I was a fan of Palin myself. But I’m now convinced that she’s not a conservative, nor is she a politician qualied for the Presidency of the United States. She’s simply just another RINO endorsing another RINO. No real conservative would ever endorse McCain for the Senate.


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To: Sarah Barracuda

I did not vote for McCain, I voted for Palin - I despised McCain, and still do. If he had not picked Sarah - he would not have gotten my vote. I think he used her then - because he knew he wouldn’t get 5 votes without someone like her on the ticket.

I think he is using her now - he’s selfish & manipulating like that. He is dispicable. I hope she sees the light pretty soon, before he drags her down. She is better than him - she worked her butt off for his campaign.

I read her book. McCain’s people wouldn’t even let her give a concession speech. That hurt her to the core. All through the book - Sarah told about people on McCain’s staff that treated her like crap. She always said it was “Headquarters”. Who, pray tell, is HEADQUARTERS?

It was McCain, that’s who it was. And if it was someone else, than McCain wasn’t in control - and what kind of president would that be? Someone that isn’t even in control of his own staff?

This is pathetic - I’m still driving around with a Sarah bumper sticker on my SUV (with McCain’s name cut off) - but if she doesn’t come out in support of a REAL conservative, after getting herself into this particular race - then I will probably take the sticker off & probably downgrade my support of her. This is disappointing to me. I thought she had more integrity than to support someone just because they did her a favor.

Our country’s future is a lot more important than paying back “favors”.


261 posted on 01/23/2010 2:32:19 PM PST by alicewonders
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To: Friendofgeorge
Yeah you're right I dont like sarah because shes a phony and I dont have to like her.I dont go in every sarah palin thread to trash her just because I want to,I find legitimate things to post against her like her supporting Mccain. I used to support her and would ignore what other said about Palin but it seems like she honestly has no clue in some areas.

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262 posted on 01/23/2010 2:34:40 PM PST by lmarie373 (*These little guys might look cute and cuddly, but trust us: they will kill you.-on emanuel brothers)
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To: betty boop

Just the fact that she would even appear on the same ticket as Juan McCain caused me to “question the soundness of her judgement”.


263 posted on 01/23/2010 2:35:09 PM PST by ChrisInAR (You gotta let it out, Captain!)
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To: Sarabaracuda

Of course. Alinsky stuff. Like nazi Pelozi encouraging dems & libs to start using “progressive” (because ‘liberal’ had become too unfavorable.) Maybe RINO can be subtly changed to “rightwing progressives”, diluting conservatives some more. You don’t get the picture at all.


264 posted on 01/23/2010 2:35:20 PM PST by molybdenum ( Now go do the right thing!------Dr Laura)
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To: rabscuttle385

LOL, looks like all the Romneybots here at FR are now aligning themselves with the Paul nuts to bash Palin. Who loses? Conservatism.


265 posted on 01/23/2010 2:35:56 PM PST by militanttoby
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To: Al B.

For better or worse, the GOP has always tried to balance out the ticket to bring in as many voters as possible. I would have preferred Reagan / Quayle but we got Reagan / Bush instead. I think that diminished the ticket.

I planned on not voting for McCain until Palin was added to the ticket. She increased the value so McCain and his team are to be thanked for that, even though they didn’t want to add her.

I wish that she weren’t helping McCain, but I understand it and won’t consider her a RINO for doing it.


266 posted on 01/23/2010 2:36:41 PM PST by Badray
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To: Sarabaracuda

Google is your friend troll.

Go find it.


267 posted on 01/23/2010 2:36:57 PM PST by mkjessup (This tagline has temporarily moved to a secure undisclosed location while debris is flying around..)
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To: Sarabaracuda

The real problem with defining RINO is that there’s no clear understanding of what a Republican is. I would say that both Arlen Specter and Jim Jeffords were RINOs.


268 posted on 01/23/2010 2:41:24 PM PST by Quicksilver (It will be independent conservatives who takes back America.)
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To: alicewonders
I did not vote for McCain, I voted for Palin

Impossible. It was HIS name that was on top of the ticket, not hers. I would have been the McCAIN Administration, not the Palin Administration if they were elected.

IMO. if you were serious about not voting for McCain, you shoulda done what I did: vote for Pastor Chuck Baldwin of the Constitution Party, the LP's Bob Barr, or another candidate who believed ingutting the federal government.

269 posted on 01/23/2010 2:42:29 PM PST by ChrisInAR (You gotta let it out, Captain!)
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To: alicewonders

She needs to come out and support Marco Rubio. If she does that, then all this McCain stuff will be forgotten.


270 posted on 01/23/2010 2:43:12 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: ChrisInAR

“shoulda done what I did: vote for Pastor Chuck Baldwin of the Constitution Party, the LP’s Bob Barr, or another candidate who believed ingutting the federal government.”

Baldwin Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

That is something to be proud of.


271 posted on 01/23/2010 2:46:26 PM PST by rbmillerjr (It's us against them...the Establishment RINOs vs rank and file...Sarah Palin or bust)
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To: Sarabaracuda
"I believe Sarah is trying to build a coalition like Reagan did in order to successfully win the 2012 nomination and election. If it takes reelecting McCain to have Sarah as president, I’m all for it."

Now that the smoke is clearing, that seems evident.

It will take every spectra of the Republican Party from RINO to the "guns & religion" conservatives to win back the House and Presidency, but what we don't have is the luxury of time.

Should the Republicans pull off a coup de grace and dethone the Dems from power the conservative-wing will control the RNC instead of the RINO/McCain-wing.

272 posted on 01/23/2010 2:48:40 PM PST by Norman Greenbaum
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To: jonrick46; betty boop
"When I read about Sarah’s plans to help John McCain’s campaign, I couldn’t help but see it as a reflection of her noble character. I truly believe that Sarah is honoring a friendship that she values and respects. This says much about her trustworthiness that does not abandon friends for some self serving expedience."

"We must remember that 'United we stand and divided we fall.'”

There were two reactions for many of us; To be honest the initial reflex about Palin's support of McCain was nauseousness ;-)

The second though was as you stated, one of respect for honoring a debt of friendship and loyalty, but also perhaps an effort to help bind a GOP that desperately needs to remain cohesive as the Dems are about the burst at the seams.

273 posted on 01/23/2010 2:48:45 PM PST by Norman Greenbaum
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To: ChrisInAR
Impossible. It was HIS name that was on top of the ticket, not hers. I would have been the McCAIN Administration, not the Palin Administration if they were elected.

You want to know the truth? I'll get flamed plenty for this, but truthfully - in my heart - I voted for the McCain/Palin ticket hoping that McCain would die early into the term & she could step in as president. I admit it. If he had been a younger, more healthy man - I would really have had to wrestle with voting for that ticket.

No, I didn't vote for the other tickets - because they didn't have a chance in Hades to win! You have to be somewhat realistic about that. It's not all or nothing with me, but it's got to be a lot more than half.

However, in my state's primary - I was given few choices by the time I was able to vote - so instead of voting for McCain - I did vote for Ron Paul.

274 posted on 01/23/2010 2:50:57 PM PST by alicewonders
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To: rbmillerjr

Laugh all you want. I know my conscience is clear by not supporting a globalist who seeks the elimination of our borders.


275 posted on 01/23/2010 2:50:57 PM PST by ChrisInAR (You gotta let it out, Captain!)
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To: Sarah Barracuda
I don't doubt they would have. Anything to try to whip conservatives into a two-minutes-of-hat against Sarah. At least here, they are failing miserably. My concern is that they and the other Paul supporters within the Tea Party movement will use this as a wedge issue to try to turn other members against Sarah and at the same time attempt to take over the movement. We must be vigilant and not let them succeed.

As to the term RINO, well, just like a racist is anyone who disagrees with a liberal, a RINO is anyone who disagrees with Team Pure. Let's face it, the 1%-percenters probably view all elected officials other than their Messiah Ron Paul as RINOs.
276 posted on 01/23/2010 2:51:17 PM PST by Sarabaracuda (John McCain is good enough for Sarah so he's good enough for me. McCain 2010 / Palin 2012)
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To: alicewonders

I voted for Rep. Paul in the AR primaries also. There was NOOOOOOO WAY anyone could get me to vote for Juan McCain!


277 posted on 01/23/2010 2:53:56 PM PST by ChrisInAR (You gotta let it out, Captain!)
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To: Sarabaracuda

I’m sorry to disappoint you, but Rep. Paul is well respected in the Tea Party movement, whether you like it or not.

I have heard Sarah Palin compliment Rep. Paul on more than one occasion, & I appreciated her doing so....but the fact that she would continue to support Juan McCain is, IMO, an embarrassment.

SHAME ON YOU, Sarah!


278 posted on 01/23/2010 3:01:59 PM PST by ChrisInAR (You gotta let it out, Captain!)
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To: Sarabaracuda

What policies does a person have to endorse, or not endorse, in order to a RINO?


That was basically my question. What is your definition of a RINO? Who gets to make this consensus definition and set its peramatures? Is it more of an individual thing or must it be determined on a national scale by some party, etc?


279 posted on 01/23/2010 3:07:41 PM PST by deport (38 DAYS UNTIL THE TEXAS PRIMARY....... MARCH 2, 2010)
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To: Sarabaracuda

If they try to put a wedge between the different supporters, all that will do is give the Democrats power forever. Instead of going after the REAL enemy, Obama and his cronies, people are infighting. It’s ridiculous. It’s like they will never learn. Fight the ENEMY, not each other. As far as supporting Sarah, I will always support her, not always approve of every decision she makes or every candidate she endorses, but you know what, she is a human being, she is a good person, she makes mistakes, we all do. No one is perfect and she has every right to her opinion. She doesn’t have to get the approval of every single person who posts here or anyone else. No matter who she supports(for example, when she supported Doug Hoffman) some bashed her for that too, not only bashed her, but blamed her for him losing. Yet they are blaming her for McCain’s 20 point jump in the polls LOL. she had NOTHING to do with that, if I am to believe that she makes McCain surge by 20 points in one day, then Doug Hoffman should have won in a landslide. People will make up their own minds of who they want to support in Arizona, in the end, Sarah or no one else will have anything to do with the outcome, it will be the people who decide the outcome


280 posted on 01/23/2010 3:07:58 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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