Posted on 01/19/2010 8:45:11 PM PST by sickoflibs
It’s over folks. Not just the Massachusetts Senate election but any Democrat health care reform bill. Democrat’s chances of passing a health care reform bill that looks like anything like we have seen is about zero. The rest of the battle against Democrats till the November election is downhill from here. If you had been watching MSNBC the past few days you could see the democrat party and Obama White House preparing for this humiliating loss. Story after story was about Martha Coakley's coming defeat and about how she screwed up. Last night Chris Matthews did a 2 hour special on Obama’s first year in history. Tonight Matthews is reporting on what went wrong during Obama’s first year. Was this great timing or what? In fact tonight on MSNBC Rachael Maddow took issue with Matthews assumption that something went wrong with the Democrat party and started an argument with him about it (a classic moment.)
Obama and the democrat leadership have a terrible job. They can’t give up this battle where defeat is certain. You will hear lots about the various options democrats have to pass a bill. The truth is that even without this special election Democrats would have had a hell of a time combining the two bills and passing a single one with its popularity so low. In fact it is doubtful that the House and Senate could have even passed the same two bills in January again let alone a single bill. Now this election defeat will send shock waves through democrats up for election in November. The leadership’s options have gotten even worse. Republicans smell blood as does the MSM, and democrats are wounded and cornered with few options.
So what are the options Democrats have proposed ? ( I saw many on MSNBC the Obama channel tonight .) Option 1 is to convince the House Democrats to pass the Senate bill with no change requiring no new Senate vote. The problem with this is the Senate bill is unpopular with everyone, even liberals. Option 2 is to pass the Senate bill as in option 1 but promise house democrats that it will be fixed in a later Senate (50 vote) budget reconciliation bill. This would require convincing the House democrats that the bill would be fixed by the Senate later (after being burned multiple times). And many parts of the bill could not be changed using reconciliation. For example reconciliation could probably not be used to create a public health plan. Option #3 is to pass a bill fast before Senator Scott Brown is seated. I will predict that Democrats are now too spooked by this loss to try to move on the Health Reform bill before he is seated. In fact Jim Webb and Barney Frank have already come out tonight with statements opposing passing a bill before he is seated.
Obama is now going to be even more tempted than he was earlier in the year to get a bill by compromise with some republicans. He will make the argument to democrats that compromise is the only option. But now Republicans even RINOs are embolden by the election loss and polls, moderate democrats are scared to vote and the liberals are still convinced that it was compromise that created the crappy Senate bill that everyone hates, and is what led to the Massachusetts Senate loss. Once again, it’s the perfect position to be in if you are the minority. Enjoy!
It took this victory in Mass to get Dim Webb to realize that we are not kidding I will not be suprised to see Marky Mark defect now too. He is dead meat anyway as we here in VA are going to purge our state of as many Rats as possible.
You said it.
RE: “The only way they can push it is by dirty tricks, which will just enrage the electorate more. As Scott Brown said in his speech tonight, the machine has many surprises in store for it this year.”
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EXACTLY!!!!! How much more does the left wish to enrage the majority??? Do any of them want to keep their jobs?
I know Chrissy was Tippie’s lap dog, but who the H is Rachael Maddow and why would you even watch those slimes?
RE: “The only way they can push it is by dirty tricks, which will just enrage the electorate more. As Scott Brown said in his speech tonight, the machine has many surprises in store for it this year.”
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EXACTLY!!!!! How much more does the left wish to enrage the majority??? Do any of them want to keep their jobs?
RE: “The only way they can push it is by dirty tricks, which will just enrage the electorate more. As Scott Brown said in his speech tonight, the machine has many surprises in store for it this year.”
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EXACTLY!!!!! How much more does the left wish to enrage the majority??? Do any of them want to keep their jobs?
“The rest of the battle against Democrats till the November election is downhill from here.”
Wrong!
We now have more than just an arrogant opposition, we have an opposition that will retrench and prepare to pull every dirty trick possible in November.
Let me be the first to say, nananananya.
I for one do not believe this effort is over. Wounded, and wounded badly, but not over. Now we are going to hear how we evil racist Republicans “owe” 0bama a win on...something...after all, this is the affirmative action presidency. I’ll be happy to be proven wrong, that this is indeed the end of the road, but I can’t see this whole effort, pigheaded, corrupt, and egregious as it may be, derailed over one white boy who never should have been elected in Baaaston.
Yes, I expect a serious backlash if further throat-shoving is attempted. But there is no direct way to counter same pre-election. The hope, of course, is that sufficient wavering Dems will have their CTJ moment. I expect the opposition will be emboldened by this election triumph. But we are dealing with tyrants here.
Nevertheless and alwaysthemore, I doubt 0bama and Rahm will give up this easily. What we have seen is that they are so arrogant that they have no plan “B”. Well, I say, plan “B” will be forthcoming. Let’s keep the gloating short. These creeps bear watching.
sorry, that ‘post’ button was inoperable for a minute there and I posted the same thing three times :(
I swear Chrissy’s drunk.
A picture of the sinking Titanic would be appropriate right now.
I hope that John Kerry is next...
It’s over ping, enjoy!
webb deserves a tip of the hat.
Too bad he shamed Senator Kerry, who should have been THE FIRST to call for the same fair treatment for the Junior Senator of his state, and could have shown some statesmanship... /s
My point.We could use a few more “secure” rat seats.
Victory like this in Mass. is incredible and the real breakthrough we needed. And the 'rats are wounded , and all the more vicious & vindictive. Reid, Durbin, Pelosi, Boxer et al have to be taken out. Scott is our hero now, but these other battles are ahead; the defeat of Socialized healthcare to start with.
Just wait and see what november holds in store for these elite screws.Its gonna be beautiful.
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